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Post by Andrew is Good on Mar 14, 2014 18:14:09 GMT -5
I could see that to get a Shield match at Wrestlemania. Personally, I'd go for the Shield in a 3 way match with each other and have Seth Rollins win the IC Title from Big E going up to the show.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 14, 2014 18:18:37 GMT -5
The Ascension's gimmick fits perfectly with Kane's. Honestly, if it's said they're related to Kane and Taker I'm not going to be shocked. The gimmick works. Kane can say he's found 2 guys that remind him of himself as a kid and put them over. With that said the 3-way WM match is the way to go. It's perfect. They shouldn't shit on the legacy of one of their all-time great characters. Kane's doing that enough himself by wrestling in a wifebeater and black jeans and kissing Triple H's ass. Saying "OH, and here's his newphews, KONNOR and VIKTOR! Let's watch them make funny faces and suck the air out of the room every week!" would really finish the job. You underestimate Kane. Really, Kane can afford to go Corporate for a heel run, considering Katie Vick or having him play grieving after Snitsky hurt his pretend baby. That said, I wouldn't want new relatives, either. Maybe apprentices he dredged up, and even then, it isn't like Undertaker hasn't done much the same, between the Ministry and his "trainees" like Orlando Jordan and Nathan Jones.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 14, 2014 18:19:19 GMT -5
I still don't see the problem with moving forward with a single's program with each guy while they're still together. Not only that, if anyone falls flat on their face during it, you can easily fix it by going back to being a tag unit. That seems like the best option because if Reigns fails, he's basically f***ed. And believe me, the crowd will turn on him faster than Cena or Sheamus.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Mar 14, 2014 18:24:30 GMT -5
This better not be true. I have zero desire to see The Shield split yet but at least if they did that the tripe threat between the three would be awesome. Them vs. Kane/The Ascension sounds awful.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Mar 14, 2014 18:28:45 GMT -5
wouldn't be the first time Konnor has played an enforcer to an Authority figure
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Mar 14, 2014 18:30:35 GMT -5
The 3 way, there isn't proper time to build towards it, and honestly, I kind of like them as faces. No need to f*** that up yet. I feel like at this point, the Shield could make a 6 man tag with anyone good. They know the formula by now, and it isn't like Kane is some slouch, so his tag partners could be Wallace and Grommit and it'd be a good match. I don't get your post bro, I'm pretty damn sure that wallace and gromit had all the knowledge of European Catch Wrestling to had a great match with anyone in the WWE I'm sure that wallace has some VHS to study some matches of kendo nagasaki and big daddy
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 14, 2014 18:35:06 GMT -5
The 3 way, there isn't proper time to build towards it, and honestly, I kind of like them as faces. No need to f*** that up yet. I feel like at this point, the Shield could make a 6 man tag with anyone good. They know the formula by now, and it isn't like Kane is some slouch, so his tag partners could be Wallace and Grommit and it'd be a good match. I don't get your post bro, I'm pretty damn sure that wallace and gromit had all the knowledge of European Catch Wrestling to had a great match with anyone in the WWE I'm sure that wallace has some VHS to study some matches of kendo nagasaki and big daddy Gotta earn that cheese money!
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 14, 2014 18:48:16 GMT -5
The 3 way, there isn't proper time to build towards it, and honestly, I kind of like them as faces. No need to f*** that up yet. *Next Monday* {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Kane:You guys don't want to work with the Authority anymore? Go f*** yourselves,the three of you will be facing each other for the United States Championship at WrestleMania. Have fun.
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Post by berlynwright on Mar 14, 2014 19:21:06 GMT -5
what a waste of the Shield.
this is why they need a mitb match at mania and all 3 can be on it.
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Post by Evil Homer on Mar 14, 2014 19:28:13 GMT -5
What if it was The Shield against Kane and The Real Americans, leading to The Shield winning and Cesaro departing the group by giving the big swing to Zeb and/or Kane? that simply sounds amazing, I hope they hold off on this shield split until summerslam
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 19:36:38 GMT -5
I know The Ascension isn't everyone's cup of tea, but the two of them as Kane's followers just feels right. I don't really see how. From what's been showcased on NXT, their "gimmick" is DEATH METAAAAAAAAAAAAL. They don't do anything dark, they don't promo, they don't act like anything. They just come to the ring with guitars blaring and beat people up mediocre...ly. Doesn't really fit with Kane to me, Corporate or not. They're meant to be big gay vampires.
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Post by Tony Schiavontay on Mar 14, 2014 19:57:31 GMT -5
I don't understand this at all. Debuting NXT guys at Mania seems odd enough, let alone picking the shittiest NXT guys not named Mojo Rawley. On the bright side, at least NXT's looking to be better now. Would it be that different to Fandango having his first match at Mania? Sure Fandango had a few weeks to get some heat on himself but it didn't work that great. Having The Ascension wrestle for Kane due a to a friendship that was created by a dark bond wouldn't be too bad. The only issue is you have a little too much paranormal shit going down with Taker and the Wyatts on the show as well. I'd expect it to be a Bo Dallas scenario where they don't stick around for long. I thought it was a bad idea when they did it with Fandango too. I think it puts insane pressure on a guy that's almost impossible to live up to. But that's just my opinion. Keep in mind, though, my main problem is less about debuting new guys at Mania and more I just don't want to see The Ascension at all.
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Post by BV on Mar 14, 2014 19:58:40 GMT -5
The more I think about it the more I wish they would have saved the first Shield vs. Wyatts match for Mania.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 20:16:31 GMT -5
Rather break up the Shield than have them face those Mortal Kombat douches. Hey, I take offense to that. At least clarify that they are MK:Deception, Hotaru/Havik tier. And I take issue with that. Hotaru and Havik are awesome. Now, if you compared them to Darrius or Dairou or something, then you have a point.
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Post by Chip on Mar 14, 2014 20:18:53 GMT -5
Hey, I take offense to that. At least clarify that they are MK:Deception, Hotaru/Havik tier. And I take issue with that. Hotaru and Havik are awesome. Now, if you compared them to Darrius or Dairou or something, then you have a point. Fine, Havik wasn't so bad. He just always felt like he was meant to be an alternate costume for Ermac.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 20:19:47 GMT -5
And I take issue with that. Hotaru and Havik are awesome. Now, if you compared them to Darrius or Dairou or something, then you have a point. Fine, Havik wasn't so bad. He just always felt like he was meant to be an alternate costume for Ermac. Funny thing is you're not far off - originally he was designed as a new Noob Saibot look.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 22:11:25 GMT -5
I hope not. Wrestlemania is in 3 weeks and 95%+ of the audience doesn't even know who the Ascension are.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 22:12:38 GMT -5
I hope not. Wrestlemania is in 3 weeks and 95%+ of the audience doesn't even know who the Ascension are. And even those who just started watching NXT (like me) just know them as, "Those guys who won a couple of terrible squash matches and have a stupid ninja gimmick."
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Post by Digital Witness on Mar 14, 2014 22:27:47 GMT -5
What if Konnor and Viktor don't come up with their dark/mystical gimmick, and come in as corporate lackeys of Kane? Then we get some sort of Shield/Corporate Shield match?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 14, 2014 22:30:29 GMT -5
What if Konnor and Viktor don't come up with their dark/mystical gimmick, and come in as corporate lackeys of Kane? Then we get some sort of Shield/Corporate Shield match? If they're coming in as Kane's lackeys, they need to be exactly like Kane. Corporate goons, yes. But the monstrous dark side needs to still be somewhat obvious.
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