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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 1, 2015 3:01:26 GMT -5
The anti-vaxxers want perfect children. That's the core of it. If their kids have autism, then they are considered defective and therefore someone or something must be to blame. The new age nonsense of "naturalism" also comes into play. The idea that vaccinations and medicine stop the body from being "pure" etc....It's similar to all those nutters who worship Deepak Chopra and other con men who claim to have found mystical remedies which will bring some sort of higher state of being. They might want to look back into history before the days of germ theory, vaccines and medication when you were lucky to reach the age of 40. All these people live in an echo chamber, on message boards, social media groups, and social circles in person, where they all reinforce each other's flawed beliefs.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 1, 2015 3:49:33 GMT -5
What you do with your spawn affects me. Congratulations dumbass, you just brought back diseases because a woman famous for showing her tits and a woman famous for being Oprah told you so.
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Post by Cela on Feb 1, 2015 3:59:31 GMT -5
The anti-vaxxers want perfect children. That's the core of it. If their kids have autism, then they are considered defective and therefore someone or something must be to blame. The new age nonsense of "naturalism" also comes into play. The idea that vaccinations and medicine stop the body from being "pure" etc....It's similar to all those nutters who worship Deepak Chopra and other con men who claim to have found mystical remedies which will bring some sort of higher state of being. They might want to look back into history before the days of germ theory, vaccines and medication when you were lucky to reach the age of 40. All these people live in an echo chamber, on message boards, social media groups, and social circles in person, where they all reinforce each other's flawed beliefs. We must all return to the natural way of life as the caveman lived... and die by 28.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Feb 1, 2015 3:59:52 GMT -5
On the next episode of "Donnie Loves Jenny," Donnie tries to cope with the myriad of stds he gets from Jenny because she won't take any vaccines. Okay, that was kind of mean I guess. I should be lucky enough to have someone to share venereal diseases with.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Feb 1, 2015 4:31:06 GMT -5
The anti-vaxxers want perfect children. That's the core of it. If their kids have autism, then they are considered defective and therefore someone or something must be to blame. The new age nonsense of "naturalism" also comes into play. The idea that vaccinations and medicine stop the body from being "pure" etc....It's similar to all those nutters who worship Deepak Chopra and other con men who claim to have found mystical remedies which will bring some sort of higher state of being. They might want to look back into history before the days of germ theory, vaccines and medication when you were lucky to reach the age of 40. All these people live in an echo chamber, on message boards, social media groups, and social circles in person, where they all reinforce each other's flawed beliefs. We must all return to the natural way of life as the caveman lived... and die by 28. That's a touch young, I think the natural human life span is actually somewhere around 35.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 5:17:30 GMT -5
I'm still trying to figure out how the f*** hyperbaric chambers can help with autism. I thought the only use of them was for the bends and the idea that Michael Jackson used 'em to extend his life. Well, that and the belief that sleeping nude in a tent gave Homer Simpson sexual powers. But, if Disney measles outbreak was bad, imagine Super Bowl measles. I know it's traditional media paranoia but with more and more people shunning basic innoculation, this isn't gonna be pretty. They help with the bends and strokes, and possibly other ailments that cause brain damage. The nutters who think they cure autism think their kids are brain damaged from mercury, nothing more. Not to rush to her defense, but to her (slight) credit I thought she backed off on the whole "vaccinations cause autism" thing she was spouting out of her face hole. Doesn't make up for the years and years of people who listened to her misinformation or the past current and future problems related, but I do think she came out and said "yeah I f***ed up". Nope, she was doing it numerous times during her stint hosting The View.
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Post by mattperiolat on Feb 1, 2015 9:27:54 GMT -5
May I have the floor for a brief moment? Thank you.
I'm not exactly secret about it, but I'll state it again here - I have Asperger's, which accordingly puts me in the high end of the autism spectrum. I'm high functioning, but I have it. I also know through study and therapy that I was born this way. No vaccination, drug, blow to the head or other trauma made my brain the way it is. I am as nature or God, whichever you believe in, intended me to be. And I would not choose to be any other way since then, how could I be true to myself?
Now then, with that said, Miss McCarthy, I humbly suggest you prove me wrong. You name the exact vaccine, event or trauma that affected how I am and prove it with imperial medical and factual based material. If you cannot, then I suggest you sit down and shut up because what you are doing now is endangering lives. The measles outbreak at Disneyland is spreading due to ignorance. Now we have a mumps outbreak at the University of Virginia that is a threat for the same reason. How many children will have to be at risk, sickened, crippled or die before you admit you are wrong? Give me a round figure, by all means.
Don't mind me, I'm just an Aspie who is already mentally crippled by a vaccine. I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about.
Sorry in advance, mods, but this is personal for me.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 1, 2015 10:39:18 GMT -5
I think the most f***ed up thing about the anti-vaxxers mentality is the notion that they would rather run the risk of their children getting the measles as opposed to the "risk" of getting autism, as if to say they would rather have a dead child than an autistic one. Exactly. As a father of two small children this pissed me off. The fact they'd rather possibly get their child killed...and other people's children killed...than risk them having Autism because of what they've read online or heard on TV makes me want to smack the shit out of them. I also want to add in notorious nutjob Alex Jones as guilty in this as McCarthy and Oprah. I've read plenty of anti-vac articles on his site and I believe at one point he was defending McCarthy. There's reasons I only hit that site for the lolz now.
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Post by rocket on Feb 1, 2015 11:20:53 GMT -5
So has she done anything recently that warranted the bumping of this thread?? The funny thing is when she started talking about this a decade or so ago she literally wasn't doing anything else. I should add an honorable mention to Rob Schneider, who's probably even more insane over this. Like his response to State Farm dropping him because of his anti-vaccination views: time.com/3430107/rob-schneider-state-farm-vaccines/
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Post by bluemeii on Feb 1, 2015 12:28:54 GMT -5
Not to rush to her defense, but to her (slight) credit I thought she backed off on the whole "vaccinations cause autism" thing she was spouting out of her face hole. Doesn't make up for the years and years of people who listened to her misinformation or the past current and future problems related, but I do think she came out and said "yeah I f***ed up". Nope, she was doing it numerous times during her stint hosting The View. K thanks for that info. Thought I read somewhere she had backed off on that.
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Post by Sam Punk on Feb 1, 2015 15:26:59 GMT -5
Golly.
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Post by jagilki on Feb 1, 2015 15:29:31 GMT -5
lol your avatar with that post.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 1, 2015 21:11:54 GMT -5
On the next episode of "Donnie Loves Jenny," Donnie tries to cope with the myriad of stds he gets from Jenny because she won't take any vaccines. Okay, that was kind of mean I guess. I should be lucky enough to have someone to share venereal diseases with. I'm pretty sure with Donnie Wahlberg their respective STDs cancel each other out
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 1, 2015 22:57:58 GMT -5
I was reading an article on CNN.com that just further proves in my mind that anti-vaxxers are pieces of shit. A cardiologist...a damn doctor...that doesn't vaccinate his kids ripped into a family who's daughter has leukemia and has possibly caught the measles at a doctors visit.
*He says the family that didn't vaccinate did nothing wrong
*Says it's not his responsibility to inject his children with chemicals to protect other children.
*Says it's likely she got leukemia from vaccines in the first place.
*hes not going to sacrifice the well being of his child. His child is pure.
*He can live with himself if not vaccinating his child causes another child to become gravely ill because people die everyday.
*Says it's their own fault because of she's that sick that she shouldn't be going out in public.
f*** this guy.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Feb 1, 2015 23:15:20 GMT -5
Part of the problem is that we, in the developed world, have forgotten why we vaccinate againt measles etc: That these diseases are killers. Anti-Vaxxers are like "well I had measles and it wasn't a big deal" Yes, dumbass. You were vaccinated. The vaccine is why it wasn't "A Big Deal". It used to cause 2.6 million deaths globally per year prior to widespread vaccination.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 2, 2015 1:11:15 GMT -5
May I have the floor for a brief moment? Thank you. I'm not exactly secret about it, but I'll state it again here - I have Asperger's, which accordingly puts me in the high end of the autism spectrum. I'm high functioning, but I have it. I also know through study and therapy that I was born this way. No vaccination, drug, blow to the head or other trauma made my brain the way it is. I am as nature or God, whichever you believe in, intended me to be. And I would not choose to be any other way since then, how could I be true to myself? Now then, with that said, Miss McCarthy, I humbly suggest you prove me wrong. You name the exact vaccine, event or trauma that affected how I am and prove it with imperial medical and factual based material. If you cannot, then I suggest you sit down and shut up because what you are doing now is endangering lives. The measles outbreak at Disneyland is spreading due to ignorance. Now we have a mumps outbreak at the University of Virginia that is a threat for the same reason. How many children will have to be at risk, sickened, crippled or die before you admit you are wrong? Give me a round figure, by all means. Don't mind me, I'm just an Aspie who is already mentally crippled by a vaccine. I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about. Sorry in advance, mods, but this is personal for me. You and I are in the same boat. I, like you, was diagnosed with Aspergers. When I was diagnosed, the doctor in charge took a look at my brain and said there's no way this developed overnight basically. This doctor I saw had degrees from both Duke and North Carolina. He had papers that were published and peer-reviewed. He said that this is something that I probably had while I was in the womb. So, Ms. McCarthy, what say you? Do you think that you and the doctors who you cite(All of which were proven as frauds and quacks) know more than this man? I would dare say not. And the fact that parents have forgone vaccinating their children because of these frauds and have put not just themselves, but the rest of the public at risk shows how easily misled people are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 7:52:18 GMT -5
The only vaccination I'm against in chicken pox. That's because it only lasts about 10 years and if a male gets chicken pox after puberty, it can leave him sterile. The death rate from chicken pox is very low to begin with so the risks outweigh the rewards. I just don't see the point and I'm embolden by the fact my daughter's first pediatrician (who would still be the pediatrician had we not moved out of state) was also against the chicken pox vaccine. I would've much rather been vaccinated for chicken pox than caught it... but that may be just me... not to mention, this is the same bullshit passed off by the quacks responsible for measles coming back, so...
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Post by mattperiolat on Feb 2, 2015 8:24:24 GMT -5
What is getting missed or no-sold here is this is no longer just about measles at Disneyland. There is an ongoing event at the University of Virginia where there is a mumps outbreak. One confirmed case, four suspected. Mumps should not be an issue at all or at least not serious due to vaccines and yet, college students are now under threat due to pure ignorance.
I have no words. I used them all yesterday.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 2, 2015 9:15:22 GMT -5
What is getting missed or no-sold here is this is no longer just about measles at Disneyland. There is an ongoing event at the University of Virginia where there is a mumps outbreak. One confirmed case, four suspected. Mumps should not be an issue at all or at least not serious due to vaccines and yet, college students are now under threat due to pure ignorance. I have no words. I used them all yesterday. There was also a case of the measles in Duchess County NY.... and the person that contracted it? He got on a train at Penn Station one of the busiest train stations in the world potentially infecting hundreds of people.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 9:20:38 GMT -5
What is getting missed or no-sold here is this is no longer just about measles at Disneyland. There is an ongoing event at the University of Virginia where there is a mumps outbreak. One confirmed case, four suspected. Mumps should not be an issue at all or at least not serious due to vaccines and yet, college students are now under threat due to pure ignorance. I have no words. I used them all yesterday. Also this ties into the Disneyland outbreak but Arizona's top health expert is saying 1,000 people from here ALONE may have been exposed to measles... and many of them may have also been attendance at the Super Bowl.
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