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Post by Hiryu on Apr 6, 2014 21:19:05 GMT -5
I guess they wanted to add to the list of Brock's accomplishments? I agree that the match could have used a lot more build-up. They really could have sold Undertaker being old and weak going into the match, maybe give him a hope spot in the form of a late match rally, and then he finally falls.
But to be honest, I'm kind of glad he didn't lose to a young up and comer, because there's a good chance that the young star's career might have flopped and it would have overshadowed his career.
Face it, there was no way to give a young star the rub with the streak.
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Post by Waffel113 on Apr 6, 2014 21:20:08 GMT -5
WHAT THE SHIT?!
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Apr 6, 2014 21:20:22 GMT -5
I guess they wanted to add to the list of Brock's accomplishments? I agree that the match could have used a lot more build-up. They really could have sold Undertaker being old and weak going into the match, maybe give him a hope spot in the form of a late match rally, and then he finally falls. But to be honest, I'm kind of glad he didn't lose to a young up and comer, because there's a good chance that the young star's career might have flopped and it would have overshadowed his career. Face it, there was no way to give a young star the rub with the streak. I prefer the build they did where we all expected the run of the mill Taker going over. But on the sly they were sending signals if we all had just paid attention with Taker getting the build up upper hand and Lesnar looking weak. Like any good mystery they gave us the answer and we ignored it.
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Post by Sparkybob on Apr 6, 2014 21:20:52 GMT -5
I'll say if it was Taker's decision to go on a lost, I'm glad Vince respected it and granted it to him.
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Post by modestgenius on Apr 6, 2014 21:21:25 GMT -5
The story moving forward is going to be Undertaker the man coming to the front, not ABA, but just the aging man.
Age beat the Streak, not Lesnar - that's how it will be sold. The storyline moving forward is for Undertaker to have that one last great match and then retire.
"I will not let that be the image of me remembered through the ages"
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Post by Crimson on Apr 6, 2014 21:21:52 GMT -5
I know most are adamant that Undertaker shouldn't have lost to anyone, period, but I disagree. If there's been a reoccurring theme since Wrestlemania 27, it's that Taker was fighting against the inevitable. Taker was fighting a match against Father Time and losing. At this point, there was literally only two guys with enough credibility to be the streak breaker and that was Cena and Lesnar.
Now between the two, I would've preferred it to have been Cena since he's at least full time and isn't likely to bail the company on a whim like Lesnar would.
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Post by thegame415 on Apr 6, 2014 21:21:53 GMT -5
Let's not forget, this was probably Undertaker's decision to put Brock over. In all honesty, it makes sense. A guy from a legit fight background should win.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Apr 6, 2014 21:22:17 GMT -5
So... who gets to dramatically beat Lesnar at WM 31? The Rock? Undertaker in a rematch where he officially retires afterwards? *Sigh* Roman Reigns?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 6, 2014 21:22:38 GMT -5
I've said it for a long time now; no one was going to get a rub from beating Taker, not in this era of yo yo booking.
Now was Brock the right choice? Hell even I argued against it just last week (though as a Brock mark I'm of two minds), but to be upset cuz someone else didn't get it seems a bit pointless as no one was getting a long term rub from it; not Reigns, not Wyatt, nobody.
If Taker wanted Brock to end it, I'm ok with it. I didn't think I would be, especially since again, I argued AGAINST Brock beating it, and I'm stunned now, but I'm ok with it.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Apr 6, 2014 21:22:47 GMT -5
I kind of think this was a good thing right now. The Streak was in danger of becoming bigger than Wrestlemania, now even though he has one loss, it's not as if he hasn't got a few wins under his belt. And if I was given the option of Bryan winning the title providing Taker lost to Lesnar, I'd take that condition.
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Post by Ginger Beer Man on Apr 6, 2014 21:22:51 GMT -5
Stunned beyond belief. Horrible way to end the Streak, it doesn't elevate anyone, it doesn't accentuate The Undertaker, it wasn't a great match (compared to other matches) and worst of all is that it didn't end to someone who deserves it.
The only logic to it that I can gather is that they wanted to have a HUGE moment (along side the opening) to mark down WM30 as significant. I respect The Undertaker's decision, ultimately that is where the hammer falls. But, he must have been so fed up or so jaded to make this the way it ended.
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Post by tigermaskxxxvii on Apr 6, 2014 21:23:09 GMT -5
This PPV really wasn't doing anything for me, either the buildup or the matches. I was barely paying attention, as it just felt like a nice collection of "Wrestlemania moments" aimed at a demographic I'm not part of. Then... wow. That's just... impossible to put into words. I'm still thinking it'll somehow be overturned and the match restarted and Undertaker wins. This is just unreal. That's how epic the streak was. Even after it ends clean in the center of the ring, you still expect a Dusty finish! It'd be interesting to see The Undertaker to have a 23rd WrestleMania match (although this might've been the last one) since there wouldn't be any preconceptions or foregone conclusions going in. I would've had either: 1. Bray Wyatt start a WrestleMania win streak of his own tonight in the Bayou and passed the torch to Wyatt as the new occult character/Phenom of the WWE. 2. The Shield and 'Taker finish their business from last year. Like I said in the WM 30 thread, I'm not going to war over Lesnar being the one to end the streak but I am terribly disappointed in the shortsightedness over it.
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Post by Hiryu on Apr 6, 2014 21:23:09 GMT -5
I guess they wanted to add to the list of Brock's accomplishments? I agree that the match could have used a lot more build-up. They really could have sold Undertaker being old and weak going into the match, maybe give him a hope spot in the form of a late match rally, and then he finally falls. But to be honest, I'm kind of glad he didn't lose to a young up and comer, because there's a good chance that the young star's career might have flopped and it would have overshadowed his career. Face it, there was no way to give a young star the rub with the streak. I prefer the build they did where we all expected the run of the mill Taker going over. But on the sly they were sending signals if we all had just paid attention with Taker getting the build up upper hand and Lesnar looking weak. Like any good mystery they gave us the answer and we ignored it. I think once people get past the initial shock, they will realize that Brock was the right guy. Better to give it someone like him to put the cherry on the top of his career, rather than give it to some young star who likely wouldn't have lived up to the label of "the guy who broke the streak" anyway. Brock was the right guy, and as you explained, they went about it the right way.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 6, 2014 21:23:33 GMT -5
To not give the rub to Roman Reigns or the next face of the WWE. This is NEARLY DIXIE CARTER & RUSSO LEVEL TNA STUPIDITY right there. Unbecoming of a first-class organization like WWE. "Hey, don't take it out on me!"
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Apr 6, 2014 21:24:09 GMT -5
...WHY? That's all I want to know. WHY? Why the hell would you waste this on BROCK f***ING LESNAR, who doesn't need the rub? Not only that, you have now established that The Undertaker is officially Lesnar's bitch. He's NEVER beaten Lesnar and lost to him at HIS show. Furthermore, I was a strong critic when this match was announced in the first place. I said there was no reason to do this match and oh, look. The STUPIDEST POSSIBLE THING EVER happens. I'm not one of those "The Streak should never be broken" types. In no way. I do, however, believe it should be broken by someone who is being built up as the future of the industry, not a guy who walked out of the company 10 years ago and only wrestles 2-3 matches a year. What a waste. My thoughts exactly, M. See, this is why we get along so well. If nothing else, now anyone who said Daniel Bryan not winning the title tonight would be the dumbest thing ever KNOW BETTER NOW!
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Post by Rican on Apr 6, 2014 21:24:45 GMT -5
Bullshit right?
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Post by Kayfabe FAN don't want none on Apr 6, 2014 21:24:48 GMT -5
Let's Wait & See guyz.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 6, 2014 21:25:20 GMT -5
...WHY? That's all I want to know. WHY? Why the hell would you waste this on BROCK f***ING LESNAR, who doesn't need the rub? Not only that, you have now established that The Undertaker is officially Lesnar's bitch. He's NEVER beaten Lesnar and lost to him at HIS show. Furthermore, I was a strong critic when this match was announced in the first place. I said there was no reason to do this match and oh, look. The STUPIDEST POSSIBLE THING EVER happens. I'm not one of those "The Streak should never be broken" types. In no way. I do, however, believe it should be broken by someone who is being built up as the future of the industry, not a guy who walked out of the company 10 years ago and only wrestles 2-3 matches a year. What a waste. My thoughts exactly, M. See, this is why we get along so well. If nothing else, now anyone who said Daniel Bryan not winning the title tonight would be the dumbest thing ever KNOW BETTER NOW! See if Taker losing gives us Bryan winning the title, I'm totally cool with that.
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Post by Lila on Apr 6, 2014 21:25:31 GMT -5
'You wanna do it' now has some context to it now, eh?
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Post by DrizzlinShytes on Apr 6, 2014 21:26:04 GMT -5
I really am shocked people are angry about Lesnar getting the W. He's probably going to be popping buy rates at Summerslams and Manias for a few more years. And he will lose. He's shown that so he will put someone over.
If you thought Taker's streak was going to some young guy, they couldn't risk the fans turning on that person and they couldn't risk that type of rub to some young gun that burns out. It would have had to go someone established like Cena or Lesnar. And b/w those two I go with Brock.
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