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Post by ratetankmark on May 25, 2014 13:41:11 GMT -5
I was somehow reminded of the stuff that Angelina Love did with Winter and it was almost depressing to watch, same with now to be honest because when I watch Angelina Love in 2014 BP all it does is make me yearn for the days when Angelina had a healthy body, could cut a good promo and didn't seem like she was phoning in all the time, when she was in the Original Heel BP I got the vibe that she was legitimately having fun playing such a goofy but entertaining character and when wrestlers have fun playing their characters I believe that they go the extra mile because they enjoy playing the role.
Now it just seems like she's an over the hill rockstar who's trying to be noticed again by playing the same old songs but with none of the passion that made those songs a hit (to be honest that's an abysmal analogy)
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Post by king1836 on May 25, 2014 13:42:32 GMT -5
I was somehow reminded of the stuff that Angelina Love did with Winter and it was almost depressing to watch, same with now to be honest because when I watch Angelina Love in 2014 BP all it does is make me yearn for the days when Angelina had a healthy, could cut a good promo and didn't seem like she was phoning in all the time, when she was in the Original Heel BP I got the vibe that she was legitimately having fun playing such a goofy but entertaining character and when wrestlers have fun playing their characters I believe that they go the extra mile because they enjoy playing the role. Now it just seems like she's an over the hill rockstar who's trying to be noticed again by playing the same old songs but with none of the passion that made those songs a hit (to be honest that's an abysmal analogy) I agree. Lesbian angles in pro wrestling do not work.
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Post by ratetankmark on May 25, 2014 13:44:57 GMT -5
I was somehow reminded of the stuff that Angelina Love did with Winter and it was almost depressing to watch, same with now to be honest because when I watch Angelina Love in 2014 BP all it does is make me yearn for the days when Angelina had a healthy, could cut a good promo and didn't seem like she was phoning in all the time, when she was in the Original Heel BP I got the vibe that she was legitimately having fun playing such a goofy but entertaining character and when wrestlers have fun playing their characters I believe that they go the extra mile because they enjoy playing the role. Now it just seems like she's an over the hill rockstar who's trying to be noticed again by playing the same old songs but with none of the passion that made those songs a hit (to be honest that's an abysmal analogy) I agree. Lesbian angles in pro wrestling do not work. They do but I'd rather see a same-sex angle done tastefully and respectfully rather than just 'Oh there's two girls kissing, isn't this hot' I'd rather have them do it with class and dignity as opposed to cheap fan-service.
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Post by Professor Chaos on May 25, 2014 13:45:32 GMT -5
Her return has been terrible and she's taken Velvet's career 5 steps backwards with it.
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Post by ratetankmark on May 25, 2014 13:50:06 GMT -5
Her return has been terrible and she's taken Velvet's career 5 steps backwards with it. Doesn't Velvet take herself 5 steps backwards anytime she steps in the ring?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 25, 2014 13:54:08 GMT -5
Her return has been terrible and she's taken Velvet's career 5 steps backwards with it. Doesn't Velvet take herself 5 steps backwards anytime she steps in the ring? So she's taken 10 steps backwards
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Post by JTG Fan on May 25, 2014 13:58:57 GMT -5
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Post by Heart Punch on May 25, 2014 14:54:10 GMT -5
I was somehow reminded of the stuff that Angelina Love did with Winter and it was almost depressing to watch, same with now to be honest because when I watch Angelina Love in 2014 BP all it does is make me yearn for the days when Angelina had a healthy, could cut a good promo and didn't seem like she was phoning in all the time, when she was in the Original Heel BP I got the vibe that she was legitimately having fun playing such a goofy but entertaining character and when wrestlers have fun playing their characters I believe that they go the extra mile because they enjoy playing the role. Now it just seems like she's an over the hill rockstar who's trying to be noticed again by playing the same old songs but with none of the passion that made those songs a hit (to be honest that's an abysmal analogy) Perfectly stated. Seeing Angelina return is far from what I hoped for. She is just awful to watch and listen to now.Also,the BP reformation should have been left as a fantasy for us fans. The magic just isn't there anymore. I'm thinking that TNA just offered Angelina a big check to come back and reunite with Velvet as a way to boost the ratings.They know how bad many of us fans wanted it.
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Post by ratetankmark on May 25, 2014 14:58:13 GMT -5
I was somehow reminded of the stuff that Angelina Love did with Winter and it was almost depressing to watch, same with now to be honest because when I watch Angelina Love in 2014 BP all it does is make me yearn for the days when Angelina had a healthy, could cut a good promo and didn't seem like she was phoning in all the time, when she was in the Original Heel BP I got the vibe that she was legitimately having fun playing such a goofy but entertaining character and when wrestlers have fun playing their characters I believe that they go the extra mile because they enjoy playing the role. Now it just seems like she's an over the hill rockstar who's trying to be noticed again by playing the same old songs but with none of the passion that made those songs a hit (to be honest that's an abysmal analogy) Perfectly stated. Seeing Angelina return is far from what I hoped for. She is just awful to watch and listen to now.Also,the BP reformation should have been left as a fantasy for us fans. The magic just isn't there anymore. I'm thinking that TNA just offered Angelina a big check to come back and reunite with Velvet as a way to boost the ratings.They know how bad many of us fans wanted it. Well her whiny voice has always been awful to listen to but when she had the old heel spark she hammed it up to the hilt and she went the extra mile to make every detail of her character as annoying as possible but she was great in that role, I agree with the feeling of that she got offered a big check to come back but I don't know if it actually happened and is it just me or are her actual in-ring matches a lot more boring now than they used to be?
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Post by jimmyjames on May 25, 2014 15:00:44 GMT -5
I think Angelina Love's return is systematic of the Knockouts Division itself. A shell of it's former shelf, trying to live off the past and what worked before isn't working now.
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Post by ratetankmark on May 25, 2014 15:07:08 GMT -5
I think Angelina Love's return is systematic of the Knockouts Division itself. A shell of it's former shelf, trying to live off the past and what worked before isn't working now. Yeah. To quote Jeff Dunham, The Knockouts Division and Angelina Love were like a hurricane "Exciting at first but it ends in disaster"
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Post by bluemeii on May 25, 2014 15:09:34 GMT -5
Angelina just doesn't look like she's in wrestling "shape". She looks like she's in fashion model/competition shape and for her it just doesn't seem to be working. For some of the girls, that's no problem, but for her it just looks like she's just moving stiff and slow in the ring.
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Post by Sephiroth on May 25, 2014 15:09:36 GMT -5
I remember a YouTube vid were Angelina talked about her earlier work with TNA, and she said that when the green card problem came up she was really upset at how the other girls all leapt to fill her spot in the company, kind of like they had all smiled and encouraged her and then kicked her aside in an instant. I think you can see where her enthusiasm has not been the same ever since.
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Post by ratetankmark on May 25, 2014 15:12:25 GMT -5
I remember a YouTube vid were Angelina talked about her earlier work with TNA, and she said that when the green card problem came up she was really upset at how the other girls all leapt to fill her spot in the company, kind of like they had all smiled and encouraged her and then kicked her aside in an instant. I think you can see where her enthusiasm has not been the same ever since. Do you have a link to said video? Damn if that's true then that sucks but then again this is TNA we're talking about.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 15:52:32 GMT -5
I remember a YouTube vid were Angelina talked about her earlier work with TNA, and she said that when the green card problem came up she was really upset at how the other girls all leapt to fill her spot in the company, kind of like they had all smiled and encouraged her and then kicked her aside in an instant. I think you can see where her enthusiasm has not been the same ever since. Well shouldn't that be expected? What would anyone expect? Why should anyone refuse booking out of respect for her spot?
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Post by Sephiroth on May 25, 2014 15:55:22 GMT -5
I remember a YouTube vid were Angelina talked about her earlier work with TNA, and she said that when the green card problem came up she was really upset at how the other girls all leapt to fill her spot in the company, kind of like they had all smiled and encouraged her and then kicked her aside in an instant. I think you can see where her enthusiasm has not been the same ever since. Well shouldn't that be expected? What would anyone expect? Why should anyone refuse booking out of respect for her spot? I think its more like she thought they all had this friendship going on, only for some of them to twist the knife the instant she was out of the way.
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Post by BigAl on May 25, 2014 16:53:07 GMT -5
Doesn't Velvet take herself 5 steps backwards anytime she steps in the ring? So she's taken 10 steps backwards this!
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on May 25, 2014 16:59:05 GMT -5
I remember a YouTube vid were Angelina talked about her earlier work with TNA, and she said that when the green card problem came up she was really upset at how the other girls all leapt to fill her spot in the company, kind of like they had all smiled and encouraged her and then kicked her aside in an instant. I think you can see where her enthusiasm has not been the same ever since. Do you have a link to said video? Damn if that's true then that sucks but then again this is TNA we're talking about. That's not just a TNA thing though, that's wrestling(and even other jobs) in general. People see a better spot open up & some of them are gonna jump at the chance.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on May 25, 2014 17:01:18 GMT -5
I agree. Lesbian angles in pro wrestling do not work. They do but I'd rather see a same-sex angle done tastefully and respectfully rather than just 'Oh there's two girls kissing, isn't this hot' I'd rather have them do it with class and dignity as opposed to cheap fan-service. A same-sex angle done 'tastefully & respectfully' in wrestling? Sadly, that'll probably never happen.
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Post by comahan on May 25, 2014 17:01:44 GMT -5
The 'unhealthy body' stuff annoys me. I thought she looked better before, but she's really into fitness like Madison was and a lot of the female wrestlers are. That doesn't mean theyre unhealthy.
I've liked her work since returning though, particularly her promos. It was better in 08, but thats because the material was fresh in 08. I still think she plays the perfect 'mean girl' character though, and would gladly watch her cut promos all day.
Also, I very much appreciate Angelina being back because Velvet is now once again a secondary character who barely wrestles. Much better than having her as a top face in the division and trying to hang with Gail and company in the ring.
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