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Post by BRV on Jul 12, 2014 10:50:08 GMT -5
For all the fawning and adulation that Daryl Morey has received, as basketball's preeminent statistical and analytic genius, he's really made some baffling moves in recent years. He almost reminds me of Paul DePodesta, the former Dodgers general manager. DePodesta was this rising hot-shot whiz kid in the "Moneyball" Oakland Athletics of the early 2000s, but as soon as the Dodgers hired him, he took all the money, betrayed his sabermetric teachings, and just splurged on overpriced, underperforming players. He was out of a job within two years.
Morey has sort of done the same. He gets free reign over the Rockets' purse strings and everyone portrays him as this financial mastermind who'll find the right pieces, but instead Morey is no different than most GMs, deciding to throw huge contracts at Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Dwight Howard, and potentially Chris Bosh, while losing Chandler Parsons to a division rival. Yet he's still defended and protected as some sort of brilliant basketball mind.
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Post by MGH on Jul 12, 2014 11:13:37 GMT -5
Welp, disappointed that the Spurs don't get Gasol but at least he's going out East. Also if Rose can be anywhere near what he was before the injuries, Bulls have to be the favorites in the East now, right? I'd think so. They're likely replacing Boozer with Gasol. To me that's a monster upgrade considering how Gasol can change the passing in their offense. Moves aren't done yet, I know, but right now (assuming Mike Miller and Ray Allen go to Cleveland) I think my East at the moment goes: 1) Chicago 2) Toronto 3) Indiana (I think Lance eventually stays) 4) Cleveland (subject to change if they get Love) 5) Washington (with Ariza) 6) Atlanta 7) Miami 8) Charlotte
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Post by Viva on Jul 12, 2014 11:18:21 GMT -5
For all the fawning and adulation that Daryl Morey has received, as basketball's preeminent statistical and analytic genius, he's really made some baffling moves in recent years. He almost reminds me of Paul DePodesta, the former Dodgers general manager. DePodesta was this rising hot-shot whiz kid in the "Moneyball" Oakland Athletics of the early 2000s, but as soon as the Dodgers hired him, he took all the money, betrayed his sabermetric teachings, and just splurged on overpriced, underperforming players. He was out of a job within two years. Morey has sort of done the same. He gets free reign over the Rockets' purse strings and everyone portrays him as this financial mastermind who'll find the right pieces, but instead Morey is no different than most GMs, deciding to throw huge contracts at Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Dwight Howard, and potentially Chris Bosh, while losing Chandler Parsons to a division rival. Yet he's still defended and protected as some sort of brilliant basketball mind. There are a few reasons why I believe this is categorically false, and I'll go through them here. 1) They have not lost Chandler Parsons to a rival. The rival has simply signed them to an offer sheet, which they have the opportunity to match. Every indication at this point, is that they will. With that being said, there is fire in a camp that believes that Morey should have simply used the club option on Parsons, effectively having him for 1-2mil this year as opposed to the 14-15 he's going to get now, but I don't think anybody realized how full retard teams were going to be whilst signing wings this offseason. 2) Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin were not excellent contracts, however, they aren't terrible. After all, Morey was able to successfully able to flip both this offseason for the most precious thing in all of the NBA landscape: cap room. The reason why a people respect Morey is because he has some moxy. He takes chances. I don't believe anyone thinks he's a perfect GM, or a prodigy. Just very good at his job. 3)Daryl Morey consistently has his team in the hunt to get, not marginally better, but considerably better. They are in the hunt for nearly every big name free agent, this year, Bosh is the example. They struck out on Bosh, but he would have been an excellent fit for their team, and had Bosh wanted to go for Championships over money, Houston would have been an incredible choice. Now, after losing out on Bosh, they are left with cap room, which is really just flexibility. They shifted stuff around and made room for Bosh, he spurned them, and now they move on. So essentially, the only questionable thing he's really done is sign Jeremy Lin. He's terrible and one-dimensional, but by all means a serviceable point guard. Just not at 10m a year guy. Asik is a quality big. You sign those regardless, and then you STILL try to go get a guy like Dwight Howard if you can swing it. I think even you'd agree with that. Other than that, he's been a victim of things that are relatively out of his hands.
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Post by Viva on Jul 12, 2014 11:20:24 GMT -5
Welp, disappointed that the Spurs don't get Gasol but at least he's going out East. Also if Rose can be anywhere near what he was before the injuries, Bulls have to be the favorites in the East now, right? I'd think so. They're likely replacing Boozer with Gasol. To me that's a monster upgrade considering how Gasol can change the passing in their offense. Moves aren't done yet, I know, but right now (assuming Mike Miller and Ray Allen go to Cleveland) I think my East at the moment goes: 1) Chicago 2) Toronto 3) Indiana (I think Lance eventually stays) 4) Cleveland (subject to change if they get Love) 5) Washington (with Ariza) 6) Atlanta 7) Miami 8) Charlotte I think this is underselling Cleveland a bit. They are going to be better than Toronto. Likely better than Indiana (I do not see them coming back from that weird chemistry experiment failure.)
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Post by Some Guy on Jul 12, 2014 11:55:28 GMT -5
For all the fawning and adulation that Daryl Morey has received, as basketball's preeminent statistical and analytic genius, he's really made some baffling moves in recent years. He almost reminds me of Paul DePodesta, the former Dodgers general manager. DePodesta was this rising hot-shot whiz kid in the "Moneyball" Oakland Athletics of the early 2000s, but as soon as the Dodgers hired him, he took all the money, betrayed his sabermetric teachings, and just splurged on overpriced, underperforming players. He was out of a job within two years. Morey has sort of done the same. He gets free reign over the Rockets' purse strings and everyone portrays him as this financial mastermind who'll find the right pieces, but instead Morey is no different than most GMs, deciding to throw huge contracts at Jeremy Lin, Omer Asik, Dwight Howard, and potentially Chris Bosh, while losing Chandler Parsons to a division rival. Yet he's still defended and protected as some sort of brilliant basketball mind. DePo got fired for not getting along with the LA media, don't pretend it's anything else. He also didn't "throw money" at everyone, he acquired Brad Penny for cheap, signed Lowe to a great contract and got JD Drew just before he had his best years. He had one bad signing. As for Morey, well, he has been stockpiling productive pieces in hopes of finding a star. This offseason has been the exact opposite of everything I had previously thought he was, which is a bit disappointing. Sam Hinkie and Masai Ujiri are probably more analytical than him at this point.
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Post by GreyScaleLJH on Jul 12, 2014 12:35:19 GMT -5
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Post by Cyno on Jul 12, 2014 12:37:37 GMT -5
Stephen A. Smith is saying that Melo's reps have told Houston and Chicago they're out of it and he's negotiating a contract with the Knicks.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jul 12, 2014 13:04:41 GMT -5
I told you Melo was coming back.
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Post by MGH on Jul 12, 2014 13:06:47 GMT -5
Stephen A. Smith is saying that Melo's reps have told Houston and Chicago they're out of it and he's negotiating a contract with the Knicks. No problem with a guy going to get his money. Seriously though, stop trying to snow people that your priority is winning. You're going to the Knicks.
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Post by Jazzman on Jul 12, 2014 13:12:04 GMT -5
Stephen A. Smith is saying that Melo's reps have told Houston and Chicago they're out of it and he's negotiating a contract with the Knicks. No problem with a guy going to get his money. Seriously though, stop trying to snow people that your priority is winning. You're going to the Knicks. Well, I think he's going all in on next year, basically seeing 2015-2019 as his best window and if I'm going to suck, pay me 20 million while we suck.
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Post by Unocal 76 on Jul 12, 2014 13:22:08 GMT -5
Carmelo is an idiot. 20 million a year to return to play with JR Smith?
Phil and Fish better know what they're doing.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 12, 2014 13:31:07 GMT -5
The Rockets are "seriously pursuing" Trevor Ariza, indicating that they may not be ready to match Chandler Parsons' three-year, $46 million offer sheet.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jul 12, 2014 13:40:55 GMT -5
The Rockets are "seriously pursuing" Trevor Ariza, indicating that they may not be ready to match Chandler Parsons' three-year, $46 million offer sheet. They have to sign somebody before they match Parsons' deal or else they are wasting Chandler's low cap hold for nothing.
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Post by horsemen4ever on Jul 12, 2014 13:48:00 GMT -5
Well with Carmello, and I say this with respect for the Raptors and what they accomplished last season, they are a good young team, but the Knicks are the favorites to win the Atlantic. The Nets got old real fast. If Phil makes a couple more good moves, the Knicks can win the Atlantc, get at least a 4 seed and we will see what happens if things break right.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 12, 2014 14:11:05 GMT -5
Stephen A. Smith is saying that Melo's reps have told Houston and Chicago they're out of it and he's negotiating a contract with the Knicks. No problem with a guy going to get his money. Seriously though, stop trying to snow people that your priority is winning. You're going to the Knicks. I still don't think the Bulls with Melo would've been as automatic a championship contender as people thought. Depends way too much on Tibs and Melo getting along and Rose being healthy/mentally able to play a full season. Plus Indiana and Cleveland are in the same division as Chicago, and the Atlantic Division is weak enough for the Knicks to sneak into a lower playoff seeding if not an outright division title. Even if this year's a lost cause, they still got some shots from 2015 on to dramatically improve the team once Bargnani and Stoudemire's contracts are gone. And they find some way to get rid of JR Smith. But yeah, I do think Melo would've considered going to Chicago if the money was close. But no one in their right mind is leaving $50 million on the table unless you're outright guaranteed to win a title a few times. That's a lot of f***ing money.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 12, 2014 14:23:30 GMT -5
Kings acquire F Alex Oriakhi.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jul 12, 2014 15:35:52 GMT -5
The Lakers, Bulls and Rockets are working on a sign-and-trade deal involving Pau Gasol.
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Post by MGH on Jul 12, 2014 16:33:50 GMT -5
@sam_amick The Houston Rockets have agreed to a four-year, $32 million deal with Trevor Ariza, @usatodaysports has learned.
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Post by MGH on Jul 12, 2014 16:34:18 GMT -5
@paugasol It hasn't been easy. After meditating it a lot I've chosen to play with the Chicago Bulls. Looking forward to this new chapter of my career
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2014 16:37:42 GMT -5
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