jetsonic
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Post by jetsonic on Jul 8, 2014 19:56:24 GMT -5
Why not push him as a top babyface while Bryan is gone WWE? he could be an entertaining face like a year 2000 Jericho was plus he can have great matches... oh... Reigns? you want another "big guy" on top well crap.
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Abdullah
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Post by Abdullah on Jul 8, 2014 19:57:28 GMT -5
Reigns is probably more over.
And I freakin' love Dolph.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 8, 2014 19:57:42 GMT -5
People say Reigns sucks on the mic. Ziggler ain't any better. And I like Ziggler.
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Post by Juice on Jul 8, 2014 20:01:58 GMT -5
Ziggler did something to piss someone off cause he was on fire there until the concussion.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2014 20:03:18 GMT -5
Ziggler has a better "look" than Reigns.
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Post by MGH on Jul 8, 2014 20:03:57 GMT -5
Because he keeps getting injured and in WWE this is somehow your fault.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:04:23 GMT -5
Y2K Y2J would be a perfect spot for Ziggler right now. He needs a really good catchphrase, Dolph strikes me as the type of dude that should have one.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jul 8, 2014 20:05:52 GMT -5
Because, WWE finds him too injury prone/He did something to piss off management/Didn't listen to the road agents/WWE Brass don't think he's that good/Feel other wrestlers more mold-able into main eventers
which ever fits your line of thinking.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2014 20:08:18 GMT -5
Because, WWE finds him too injury prone/He did something to piss off management/Didn't listen to the road agents/WWE Brass don't think he's that good/Feel other wrestlers more mold-able into main eventers which ever fits your line of thinking. Is he really "injury prone" when one of those injuries was due to a botch and the other one due to CARELESSNESS?
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Post by Red Impact on Jul 8, 2014 20:11:19 GMT -5
Because, WWE finds him too injury prone/He did something to piss off management/Didn't listen to the road agents/WWE Brass don't think he's that good/Feel other wrestlers more mold-able into main eventers which ever fits your line of thinking. Is he really "injury prone" when one of those injuries was due to a botch and the other one due to CARELESSNESS? Sadly, it doesn't really matter, because he's in that bad spot of having had 2 concussions within a short time of each other, so he's always going to be at a heightened risk, even if those two weren't totally his fault
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 8, 2014 20:16:59 GMT -5
Ziggler has a better "look" than Reigns. Nah he doesn't. He's got a good look, but he doesn't have the presence that Reigns has. Roman can look like a 'cool badass', just by standing there. Ziggler looks like Billy Gunn or Luger. Sculpted, in shape dude, certainly; but that's it.
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Post by Captain & Diet on Jul 8, 2014 20:19:50 GMT -5
He bumps too well and makes guys look too good. He has Billy Gunn syndrome. It sucks because I absolutely love the guy but it's just the troof.
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Post by Grand Papillon "The Banker" on Jul 8, 2014 20:21:32 GMT -5
Y2K Y2J would be a perfect spot for Ziggler right now. He needs a really good catchphrase, Dolph strikes me as the type of dude that should have one. Exactly this in regard to Ziggler's spot. He should be in upper mid-card feuds and given significant time on RAW. He doesn't have to be champion or even feud for the title to be utilized a hell of a lot better than he is now. A lengthy Bo Dallas feud would be great. A lengthy Cesaro feud would work as well. When Bad News Barrett gets well, that would be fun also. Mic time would be a plus. I actually don't mind Ziggler on the mic, and he can have his moments. His exchange with Sandow with Hugh Jackman was seemingly ad-libbed, and Ziggler came off great. The fact that crowds chant "We want Ziggler" and still pop huge for him in some cities should clue the guys in charge in that he has some connection to the audience. Getting him some wins and actually giving him a reason to fight with people rather than him just coming out to have meaningless matches against Alberto Del Rio whenever those in charge want to have a good match out there to fill time would go a long way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:25:31 GMT -5
Reigns is probably more over. And I freakin' love Dolph. The fact that they're even in the same hemisphere in terms of popularity is says a lot for Ziggler. Look at the difference in their booking. Lately, Reigns is getting into "okay back it off a bit" territory with his push, but before that he was handled so perfectly, as was the entire Shield. Ziggler has been a loser with small rays of hope here and there since last August.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Jul 8, 2014 20:41:20 GMT -5
People say Reigns sucks on the mic. Ziggler ain't any better. And I like Ziggler. Ziggler is hit or miss when it comes to talking: sometimes he's great; other times you want to punch him in the mouth. It all depends on the material.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2014 20:42:54 GMT -5
Ziggler has a better "look" than Reigns. Nah he doesn't. He's got a good look, but he doesn't have the presence that Reigns has. Roman can look like a 'cool badass', just by standing there. Ziggler looks like Billy Gunn or Luger. Sculpted, in shape dude, certainly; but that's it. Ziggler is an improved version of those guys.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 8, 2014 20:46:15 GMT -5
Nah he doesn't. He's got a good look, but he doesn't have the presence that Reigns has. Roman can look like a 'cool badass', just by standing there. Ziggler looks like Billy Gunn or Luger. Sculpted, in shape dude, certainly; but that's it. Ziggler is an improved version of those guys. I'll agree; but that still doesn't make him have a better look than Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:46:32 GMT -5
I don't get how he's being punished for being injured. If you think about it, it makes sense not to push him too strongly. He already had one title reign cut short by a concussion. And seeing how they just had to vacate two titles due to injury, and two guys have to/may have to retire due to injuries. Is it really a good idea to put the top title on a guy who's career could end the next time he takes a major bump?
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Post by The Trashman on Jul 8, 2014 20:50:22 GMT -5
He is nowhere near over enough to get a main event push
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 8, 2014 20:50:48 GMT -5
I don't get how he's being punished for being injured. If you think about it, it makes sense not to push him too strongly. He already had one title reign cut short by a concussion. And seeing how they just had to vacate two titles due to injury, and two guys have to/may have to retire due to injuries. Is it really a good idea to put the top title who's career could end the next time he takes a major bump? They could stand to not job Ziggler out too much and keep him in the orbit of higher profile stars, even without the title. And maybe Ziggler and other guys could be better protected if more guys got used and they minimized double booking people.
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