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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jul 30, 2014 5:04:20 GMT -5
"The ‘PG era’ blows. The best time in wrestling was with the nWo and the Monday Night War between WCW and WWE. You had competition. Now there is no competition. I feel bad for the guys and the wrestlers coming up now. They are slotted into a character that sometimes they can’t even do. Most of the time it’s bull****, and it sucks. I wouldn’t want to do it. You have a stupid character to do, but if you don’t do it, you don’t have a job."
It's such a pity you wouldn't want to do it, Steiner, 'cos I bet Vince is just falling over himself to try and hire you.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 30, 2014 5:08:38 GMT -5
Everything Steiner has done in the last 20 or so years blows too, so what's his point?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 30, 2014 5:12:30 GMT -5
Scott Steiner wouldn't know anything about playing a character, would he.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 30, 2014 5:13:19 GMT -5
And a stupid character, at that.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 30, 2014 5:18:23 GMT -5
Steiner comes out here trying to get the Symphy of the Attitude Era Fans
But he doesn't get my Symphy at all!!
/FAAAAT ASSES
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 30, 2014 5:27:49 GMT -5
You think you're King Arthur? Well how about I kick your medieval ass!
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Post by pepsitwist on Jul 30, 2014 5:56:44 GMT -5
I miss Steiner's ramblings. Big Poppa Pump's your hook-up and the next World Heavyweight Championship.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jul 30, 2014 6:28:54 GMT -5
Somebody just do him an egg already, poor man has been waiting seven years for it.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 30, 2014 6:30:48 GMT -5
There is a 141.66 percents chance that the PG era blows.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Jul 30, 2014 6:38:00 GMT -5
I know we apparently all think Scott Steiner's a big mean dumb jerk, but beneath the crassness of his statement is a legitimate point.
Competition did give talent a bit more control over their characters because they had negotiating leverage with the promoter that they no longer have. Competition is better for business. The current crop of talent is at a disadvantage because they are not benefiting from competition on a national/global scale.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 30, 2014 8:00:58 GMT -5
I know we apparently all think Scott Steiner's a big mean dumb jerk, but beneath the crassness of his statement is a legitimate point. Competition did give talent a bit more control over their characters because they had negotiating leverage with the promoter that they no longer have. Competition is better for business. The current crop of talent is at a disadvantage because they are not benefiting from competition on a national/global scale. He is, but a well worn one by now really.
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Post by Germansuplex on Jul 30, 2014 8:02:13 GMT -5
So Steiner is the guy behind those Youtube comments?
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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 30, 2014 8:51:00 GMT -5
I disagree about the Wars era being the best (the long term damage it did to pro wrestling in the US can never be understated), but Steiner's right about the system in place now where wrestlers are much more frequently assigned characters.
There seems to be some hope that wrestlers are getting more input into their NXT characters, but Steiner comes from an era where you crafted your own character and companies would usually hire you based on that. Obviously that's not true for everybody during the 80s and into the 90s, as plenty of guys signed on with WWF or WCW and were assigned a gimmick, but it was still more frequent for a wrestler to play a character across the territories or in Japan and then sell themselves to the big US companies based on that.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Jul 30, 2014 8:56:55 GMT -5
I know we apparently all think Scott Steiner's a big mean dumb jerk, but beneath the crassness of his statement is a legitimate point. Competition did give talent a bit more control over their characters because they had negotiating leverage with the promoter that they no longer have. Competition is better for business. The current crop of talent is at a disadvantage because they are not benefiting from competition on a national/global scale. He is, but a well worn one by now really. The Big Bad Booty Daddy is just speaking his mind. Holla if yah hear me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 9:22:33 GMT -5
I agree with the subtler point he's making: there are many occasions where WWE has given a wrestler bad material to work with and due to the way the company is set up, there's no reliable way to appeal it. If you get a wuss angle like Ryder got, or a costume gimmick like Sandow, or an insufferable loser character like Adam Rose, or a boring troll like Drew McIntyre, you have no choices but to either work with it or walk. Neither is a good one.
For every Dean Ambrose or Roman Reigns, there's 3 or 4 people with really bad characters that are inherently extremely difficult to get over, given the ways they're presented and booked. In the older eras of wrestling, you had mobility. If you got slated with something bad, you could go somewhere else. Since you previously had national exposure, the company would often be like "Hey, you've got potential, let's give you something good!" and voila, you got a second chance. Now, there's not really a viable option.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 30, 2014 9:27:38 GMT -5
I disagree about the Wars era being the best (the long term damage it did to pro wrestling in the US can never be understated), but Steiner's right about the system in place now where wrestlers are much more frequently assigned characters. Absolutely correct on both of these points.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jul 30, 2014 9:31:07 GMT -5
So when is he starting a podcast?
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Post by hisinsanity on Jul 30, 2014 9:45:07 GMT -5
Fans on Scott Steiner: Your wrestling blows.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 30, 2014 9:53:41 GMT -5
Entirety of 80s was PG. Dumb argument for anyone to make.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 9:57:52 GMT -5
Sounds like he was describing Adam Rose lol.
Like for PG fave for Attitude era
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