Marty McFry
Don Corleone
"She was mine before she was yours.... Wooooo"
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Post by Marty McFry on Sept 18, 2014 12:13:19 GMT -5
Looks like I will be keeping the American version from right here in London England This. I don't care if it's the exact same as the US version. It'll be £9.99 probably and I pay just over £6 with the conversion rate. Don't you pay anything to avoid your devices region locking? I pay an addition £3.60 per month for that.
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Boo!
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Sept 18, 2014 12:17:13 GMT -5
I doubt if it'll be an exact mirror of the US network as presumably all the prime shows will debut on the linear serivce at like 3am. That's fine for PPVs but I'd imagine they'd want to launch a new first-showing of a documentary or something at a time that's more attractive to the local audience.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Sept 18, 2014 13:06:26 GMT -5
im going to remind you all to not mention that your getting the network via means with break proboards terms of service ( and a couple of laws.) which if happens further will lead to suspensions & warnings.
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King Koopa
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Post by 67 more on Sept 18, 2014 14:30:05 GMT -5
im going to remind you all to not mention that your getting the network via means with break proboards terms of service ( and a couple of laws.) which if happens further will lead to suspensions & warnings. Question about this so I know exactly where the line is. Is the problem with mentioning we're getting it while in the UK at all, vague references to breaking the region lock (but not specifying how) or specifically saying how to break the region lock?
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Post by eJm on Sept 19, 2014 2:58:45 GMT -5
Eh, the price is going to probably be in the region of £6.99 - £7.99 since Netflix is around that price here and it's $9.99 to match American Netflix(?)
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Marty McFry
Don Corleone
"She was mine before she was yours.... Wooooo"
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Post by Marty McFry on Sept 22, 2014 12:47:50 GMT -5
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Kaysie
AC Slater
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Post by Kaysie on Sept 22, 2014 13:11:22 GMT -5
I have no idea what is going on with the uk version....
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 22, 2014 13:18:31 GMT -5
im going to remind you all to not mention that your getting the network via means with break proboards terms of service ( and a couple of laws.) which if happens further will lead to suspensions & warnings. Just out of interest are you able to say what laws they are?
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Sept 22, 2014 13:41:15 GMT -5
im going to remind you all to not mention that your getting the network via means with break proboards terms of service ( and a couple of laws.) which if happens further will lead to suspensions & warnings. Question about this so I know exactly where the line is. Is the problem with mentioning we're getting it while in the UK at all, vague references to breaking the region lock (but not specifying how) or specifically saying how to break the region lock? both on that one. im going to remind you all to not mention that your getting the network via means with break proboards terms of service ( and a couple of laws.) which if happens further will lead to suspensions & warnings. Just out of interest are you able to say what laws they are? considering you have to supply either a false u.s. address or actual address you reside in that would fall under multiple anti-fraud laws if you are permanatly living outside the u.s.a and are not a u.s. citizen. this was all brought up originally when the network went live.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 22, 2014 14:42:28 GMT -5
I don't know any of the specific laws but there are probably certain points in Terms and Conditions of setting up a PSN account for example about not bypassing region coding or such. If you search it online several results will say it is legal to change your location to access a different service, yet I've never seen any of those results actually state how it is legal. It's like Emulators and ROMs, go online and you'll find several different discussions about the legality but does anyone ever print examples of laws that could be broken or exactly how it is within the law? As we've stated several times before, it's a grey area. I'm sure even most people who get The WWE Network in the UK would begrudgingly admit there is something dodgy about getting it in a country where it hasn't launched yet. Whilst I'd guess you probably won't have armed police waking you up in the morning for this "crime", we don't want people to discuss it. We know WWE has people who have watched this board. Before anyone says "get over yourselves", why do you think we're so careful about people posting WWE videos not from one of their official channels? It's because WWE noticed a video posted here and complained to ProBoards. We then immediately stopped people even linking non-official WWE footage for a period. Was it overkill? Possibly. But that was what was agreed upon and communicated to the PB admins and since we heard no further word on the matter, we can only assume that was good enough. It's therefore not beyond the realm of possibility that someone from there could see people discussing obtaining the network in the UK and contact ProBoards over it. I'm sure there are several people who know a lot more than myself (and all the other staff) about things like "fair use" and the legal ins and outs of what is and what isn't allowed regarding region bypassing and should they ever be faced with an accusation of defrauding anyone (or similar infractions) then they are perfectly entitled to argue their case with them. But this board will not take that chance. If you are currently watching the WWE Network in the UK or playing a SNES emulator, that's your business, we don't want to know about it here. There's nothing illegal about discussing Religion but it's against the rules here. There's nothing illegal about discussing Politics but it's against the rules here. Regardless of legality, discussing obtaining the WWE network in a country where it hasn't been launched is against the rules here.
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Boo!
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Sept 22, 2014 16:55:37 GMT -5
That's interesting. Maybe the deal is that Sky gets a slice of the Network subs for compensating them for the loss of SBO revenue or maybe the PPVs weren't part of the new $30m a year deal between WWE and Sky. Let's not forget the new contract would have been made at a time when plans for the Network were already finalised internally. If they were willing to forego traditional PPV revenues in the US I think they would probably be confident about losing it with Sky too. I'd be very surprised however if events such as Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania were not offered on the SBO platform for the 'casual' viewer to subscribe to.
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Boo!
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Sept 22, 2014 17:02:44 GMT -5
Also maybe the lack of promotion of the Network launch was to avoid confusion as to the availability of NOC. Perhaps they didn't want to draw UK viewers mistakenly to the WWE Network and encouraged more "unauthorised" subscribers that would have impacted on WWE in terms of how successful they can claim the UK launch to be and Sky in terms of audience.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Sept 22, 2014 17:14:40 GMT -5
It states - "WWE Big Event Calendar (events showing on Sky Sports Box Office unless stated otherwise)"
Night of Champions has Sky Sports in brackets after it whereas the others listed don't. Suggests that the rest are remaining on Box Office as opposed to "free" on regular Sky Sports doesn't it?
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Bo Rida
Fry's dog Seymour
Pulled one over on everyone. Got away with it, this time.
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Post by Bo Rida on Sept 22, 2014 17:30:58 GMT -5
OK, OK, it's cool, I was just curious and like the other poster wanted to know where the line was as the topic sometimes comes up in threads about subscriber numbers and I'm interested in the consumer rights/protection side of things both of which seem to be borderline under the "how to" warning. However I get the hint so I'll just ignore anything related to the subject if they ever come up just to be safe.
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JB
Mike the Goon
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Post by JB on Sept 22, 2014 18:01:01 GMT -5
The fact that this is one week away and we've still not heard anything makes me believe that this will be an OOT service. I previously thought it would be a new Sky Sports channel but I don't think so
£9.99 for this would be a bargain
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Boo!
Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Sept 24, 2014 9:42:25 GMT -5
In a interesting development the 'free' WWE app through the Apple app store now has the option listed of an 'in-app purchase' of £39.99 for 6 months with automatic renewal.
If that is to be the price of the Network then it works out at £6.66, the upside down version of 9.99, or currently $10.90
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 24, 2014 9:49:56 GMT -5
In a interesting development the 'free' WWE app through the Apple app store now has the option listed of an 'in-app purchase' of £39.99 for 6 months with automatic renewal. If that is to be the price of the Network then it works out at £6.66, the upside down version of 9.99, or currently $10.90 That is interesting, I assume that's it then in terms of price. I imagine they'll also offer a month-to-month subscription with no commitment for £9.99. Now that question seems to be answered it'll be interesting to see what content is on there.
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Sept 24, 2014 9:52:52 GMT -5
Six sixty-six?? Doesn't sound as good
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Dennis Stamp
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Post by Boo! on Sept 24, 2014 9:54:02 GMT -5
In a interesting development the 'free' WWE app through the Apple app store now has the option listed of an 'in-app purchase' of £39.99 for 6 months with automatic renewal. If that is to be the price of the Network then it works out at £6.66, the upside down version of 9.99, or currently $10.90 That is interesting, I assume that's it then in terms of price. I imagine they'll also offer a month-to-month subscription with no commitment for £9.99. Now that question seems to be answered it'll be interesting to see what content is on there. I'd be surprised and disappointed if the no-commitment price was £9.99 as that's much higher than products such as Netflix or Amazon Prime or any other of the 40,000 on demand video services that seem to exist now. It'd still be £5 cheaper than the price of the monthly PPVs though but I'm not sure if the PPV market outside the big two/three in the UK is really that robust. That said if it was "9.99" it'd mean they'd have to spend no more on UK specific advertisement as thats the price shouted every five minutes on TV.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Sept 24, 2014 16:29:09 GMT -5
Pleasantly surprised if it does work out at 6.66 (a near straight conversion of the US price). Looks like Vince is going to get me to open my wallet, barring any stupid Sky imposed blackouts.
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