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Post by madness50 on Aug 25, 2014 23:10:51 GMT -5
That was a straight-up burial tonight and I hate using that term. It was ridiculous and pointless, WWE creative can go stick it up their ass. I hate when they do stupid bullshit like this, they are so behind the times that it is sad.
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Post by turkeysandwich on Aug 25, 2014 23:12:57 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Cena's gotta have Hogan's old creative control veto power. I remember a Jericho interview where he said Cena changed the outcome of the Summerslam match vs the Nexus so that Team WWE won, which made no sense storyline-wise.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 25, 2014 23:13:13 GMT -5
Anyone foresee endgame of all this with no future endeavor of the Wyatts? That's all I see right now Well, they're not going to be in WWE for another 50 years, are they... Oh, you mean some time a little closer in the future, don't you? Honestly, the only thing that (probably) changes these days after something like this is how people react to them. People see that WWE are willing to use these guys to build up others at their expense, so that makes the fans hesitant to put their support behind them when it's their turn to get the big storylines or the title feud, and that in turn makes WWE reluctant to push them again, and the cycle just goes on and on. That's what burial relies on for it to really work.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 25, 2014 23:14:32 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Cena's gotta have Hogan's old creative control veto power. I remember a Jericho interview where he said Cena changed the outcome of the Summerslam match vs the Nexus so that Team WWE won, which made no sense storyline-wise. I don't think it was the outcome he changed, he just wanted to do a finish and Jericho and Edge told him not to. He wouldn't relent, so they said, "f*** it, we're not gonna be out there for it" and let him do it and it sucked and killed Nexus off.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 23:14:42 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Cena's gotta have Hogan's old creative control veto power. I remember a Jericho interview where he said Cena changed the outcome of the Summerslam match vs the Nexus so that Team WWE won, which made no sense storyline-wise. It's pretty much confirmed Cena's a selfish dickhead. No surprise there.
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Post by Gummydavidson on Aug 25, 2014 23:16:18 GMT -5
Maybe they have given up on Bray after his lacklustre matches with Jericho at the last 2 PPVs.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 23:17:56 GMT -5
Maybe they have given up on Bray after his lacklustre matches with Jericho at the last 2 PPVs. I can't speak on the Battleground match, but the SummerSlam one was okay. Granted, the cage match with Cena was complete ass but that wasn't exactly his fault.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 23:18:17 GMT -5
Maybe they have given up on Bray after his lacklustre matches with Jericho at the last 2 PPVs. Yes let's give up on him despite the fact that he was once one of the most captivating performers in recent memory and cuz he had a few meh matches. PUSH OVER.
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Post by Macho Pichu on Aug 25, 2014 23:26:01 GMT -5
I don't know who is at fault for the awful booking as of late, but I want to find them, kick them in the balls, and take their job over. They push they people we don't give a shit about like Sheamus, Del Rio (it sucks for him that he doesn't work there anymore, but the product is better without him), Reigns, and Orton and take guys we do enjoy like Bryan, Punk, Cesaro, Sandow, the Wyatts, and Ryback and book them like udder shit. Its absolutely ridiculous. At least they haven't ruined Ambrose or Rollins yet.
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 25, 2014 23:28:14 GMT -5
When did Bray get hurt? The last AA? Or maybe during the first match? thats why Shenry waddled out with such an awkward amount of time left. It looks like a combination of the Germans and that final hard clothesline that may have did it. I think the plan was to have a 6 man no matter what.
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 25, 2014 23:30:28 GMT -5
At least he's still blowing out that LED lantern because WWE won't let him play with oil, right?? Nope, they skipped his entrance entirely. It was funny that you could hear the air go out of the arena when they didn't get the entrance. So much disappoint.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 25, 2014 23:35:42 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Cena's gotta have Hogan's old creative control veto power. I remember a Jericho interview where he said Cena changed the outcome of the Summerslam match vs the Nexus so that Team WWE won, which made no sense storyline-wise. It's pretty much confirmed Cena's a selfish dickhead. No surprise there. You guys just forgot the part where Cena walked to Edge and Jericho and apologized,saying they were right and the part where it was not the outcome,it as the finish and spots .But you know...doesn't matter. Still a dumb decision and Cena clearly used his backstage power to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 23:45:42 GMT -5
It's pretty much confirmed Cena's a selfish dickhead. No surprise there. You guys just forgot the part where Cena walked to Edge and Jericho and apologized,saying they were right and the part where it was not the outcome,it as the finish and spots .But you know...doesn't matter. Still a dumb decision and Cena clearly used his backstage power to do it. Apologizing means you'll never do it again.
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Post by Rave on Aug 26, 2014 0:09:48 GMT -5
Team Glass Ceiling horrified me.
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Post by slaughterama on Aug 26, 2014 0:10:02 GMT -5
I hate to wish an injury on anyone, but something needs to happen where Cena disappears for a long time. The difference between Hogan in the 80's and Super Cena 2005-2014 is he is just decimating anything and anyone that gets momentum on free shows. NOBODY gains from that.
Hogan's foes had month long build ups, gained more and more credibility, and weren't getting one-upped every other week by Hogan on the free shows. And many/most of the time, when they did inevitably lose to Hogan on a PPV or an MSG show, they would immediately be put in a solid program against another established face. If they could keep their momentum after that, they tended to remain credible threats in the long run. Cena spends the next few months not just kicking guys down the ladder, he's setting the ladder on fire.
Cena kind of reminds me of how they described Terry Bendict in Ocean's Eleven. To paraphrase: "The last guy caught cheating here, Benedict not only sent him up for ten years, he got the bank to seize the guy's home and bankrupted his brother-in-law's tractor dealership. He doesn't just go after your knees, he goes after your livelihood. And everyone you ever met's livelihood."
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Post by Andy Martin on Aug 26, 2014 0:17:25 GMT -5
I thought everyone(or at least almost everyone) here was getting sick of the Wyatts? I like Harper, but I haven't enjoyed Bray in a long, long time. And it's got nothing to do with Cena.
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Post by Macho Pichu on Aug 26, 2014 0:23:46 GMT -5
I've taken a second to cool down and thought about it. I will be absolutely okay that this segment happened if the Wyatts get back to dominating everything next week. I understand that the purpose was to show that Cena hasn't become a useless bitch after the Brock match, so he had to take someone credible out to do so. As long as the Family gets treatment that they are just that going forward, I'll let it slide. If they become jokes, I will not.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 0:28:45 GMT -5
I never really understood Cena hate til tonight
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Aug 26, 2014 0:30:16 GMT -5
I've taken a second to cool down and thought about it. I will be absolutely okay that this segment happened if the Wyatts get back to dominating everything next week. I understand that the purpose was to show that Cena hasn't become a useless bitch after the Brock match, so he had to take someone credible out to do so. As long as the Family gets treatment that they are just that going forward, I'll let it slide. If they become jokes, I will not. Oh yeah, it's definitely the kind of thing that they CAN recover from. It's just that hardly anyone is buying that they WILL recover from it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 0:31:33 GMT -5
Something was very odd about the match last night. Bray seemed out of it. Henry/Show and the bizarre six-man tag match that followed reeked of dark match material that they used because they had time to kill.
I think there was a lot of improvisation on the main event, because something definitely went wrong somewhere in-between.
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