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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Sept 1, 2014 1:32:40 GMT -5
I'm very weak-willed you know. On the other hand, maybe I enjoy depriving myself of things too. Though that might be a whole nother basket of laundry. Do it. You'll only have to throw a sock into said basket of laundry.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 1:34:59 GMT -5
The answer may be that you need to try to be the master of your domain, if you feel that is the morally correct decision, at least for now. I'm very weak-willed you know. On the other hand, maybe I enjoy depriving myself of things too. Though that might be a whole nother basket of laundry. Maybe this is what you need.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 1, 2014 1:35:00 GMT -5
I wonder what it'd take to make people realise how gross some of the posts in this thread are. Perhaps taking the first two words of the thread and reducing them to their initials, and then rereading the arguments about how viewing pictures of people who haven't consented is fine because they're already out there on the internet.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 1, 2014 1:36:43 GMT -5
Anyone who thinks someone who looks at a naked picture of a woman rates them as "the worst" isn't worthy of knowing. By that wording, looking at a picture of someone makes you worse than a kiddy-fiddler or a mass murderer. Ever heard of a word called 'consent' before? Y'know, just curious. It's not the fact that it's looking at pictures of naked women, it's that it's looking at pictures of naked women who had no idea that these photos could be accessed and have had their privacy invaded by malicious people, and now know that countless perverts are objectifying them. That's the issue here, and that you're so offended that someone thinks it's gross as hell is really kind of scary. Of course I've heard of the word "consent", there was really no need to be sarcastic about it. In fact, in my very first post in this thread, I said they have every right to take these photos and that only people they want to see them be allowed to see them. Is looking at these pictures of them that have been leaked without their permission wrong? Yes. Don't know where I said that someone thinking this was gross was offensive but since you've accused me of that, I'm sure you'll back it up with a quote somewhere. That doesn't negate the point that I think calling people who look at these pictures "the worst" is ridiculous. As I said before, when you say someone is the worst, you are saying that everyone else is better. So by that logic, a person looking at a picture gained illegally is worse than a paedophile, murderer or any other person at all. Edit: it was actually my second post in this thread.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Sept 1, 2014 1:38:37 GMT -5
Ever heard of a word called 'consent' before? Y'know, just curious. It's not the fact that it's looking at pictures of naked women, it's that it's looking at pictures of naked women who had no idea that these photos could be accessed and have had their privacy invaded by malicious people, and now know that countless perverts are objectifying them. That's the issue here, and that you're so offended that someone thinks it's gross as hell is really kind of scary. Of course I've heard of the word "consent", there was really no need to be sarcastic about it. In fact, in my very first post in this thread, I said they have every right to take these photos and that only people they want to see them be allowed to see them. Is looking at these pictures of them that have been leaked without their permission wrong? Yes. Don't know where I said that someone thinking this was gross was offensive but since you've accused me of that, I'm sure you'll back it up with a quote somewhere. That doesn't negate the point that I think calling people who look at these pictures "the worst" is ridiculous. As I said before, when you say someone is the worst, you are saying that everyone else is better. So by that logic, a person looking at a picture gained illegally is worse than a paedophile, murderer or any other person at all. I think you're just taking that pretty literally.
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Post by MGH on Sept 1, 2014 1:39:53 GMT -5
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Sept 1, 2014 1:40:04 GMT -5
I do not think any good can come from this thread being open anymore.
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Post by Renslayer on Sept 1, 2014 1:43:26 GMT -5
Other than that he posts on 4chan, do we know anything about the guy who did this? Well Deadspin has some more... and they can expect to be flooded with calls on Tuesday morning.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Sept 1, 2014 1:44:08 GMT -5
I didn't blame the victims, but most of them probably knew. And I will tell you what I was taught in 95 and is repeated to this day allover "once something is on the internet, it is on the internet forever". Nothing ever gets truly deleted. It isn't the victims faults, but they could have gone to greater lengths to protect themselves. It is no different that using a credit card, you have to be careful and know the risks and weigh the risk. At the end of the day, if we didn't have such a messed up view on nudity in our culture, this would be a non-issue. Cave men never worried about this shit. Also, I turn off auto upload all the time, it can be done. Any time i take a picture for work, that goes right the hell off. Not saying my clients with the world. Naked or not this kind of thing should be a big deal for the sole reason that someone's privacy was invaded and people just lick their chops and dig in. One thing I really can't stand in the advent of the internet generation is that most people seem to feel entitled to this shit. If some anonymous creep took pictures from my computer, even if it were all innocent family pictures or whatever, I would be furious. I would be more furious if it was pics of my family rather than my dong. That is why no pics of my family go online from me.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 1, 2014 1:45:25 GMT -5
Ever heard of a word called 'consent' before? Y'know, just curious. It's not the fact that it's looking at pictures of naked women, it's that it's looking at pictures of naked women who had no idea that these photos could be accessed and have had their privacy invaded by malicious people, and now know that countless perverts are objectifying them. That's the issue here, and that you're so offended that someone thinks it's gross as hell is really kind of scary. Of course I've heard of the word "consent", there was really no need to be sarcastic about it. In fact, in my very first post in this thread, I said they have every right to take these photos and that only people they want to see them be allowed to see them. Is looking at these pictures of them that have been leaked without their permission wrong? Yes. Don't know where I said that someone thinking this was gross was offensive but since you've accused me of that, I'm sure you'll back it up with a quote somewhere. That doesn't negate the point that I think calling people who look at these pictures "the worst" is ridiculous. As I said before, when you say someone is the worst, you are saying that everyone else is better. So by that logic, a person looking at a picture gained illegally is worse than a paedophile, murderer or any other person at all. "Anyone who thinks someone who looks at a naked picture of a woman rates them as "the worst"" is absolutely not the issue Kate Leth was talking about, but since your post didn't seem to criticise the one by Kevin Hamilton, who was acting like what Kate Leth said was an affront, I assumed you were backing him up. If however you were talking about a completely unrelated issue in this thread for no reason, I apologise. And yeah, I do think the violation of someone's privacy and looking at them nude without their consent is a really big deal and 'the worst'. Same as I think homophobia, racism, etc are 'the worst'. Same as lots of things are 'the worst'. It's not trying to create a set scale, it's metonymy trying to show quite how despicable it is.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 1, 2014 1:46:09 GMT -5
Well it is. And I did. Deal, yo. It's all over but the laundry. That said, it is wrong. But the damage is done. And ain't no amount of high horse white knighting is going to change that. I hope the guy who did the actual crime gets busted. But like a dude who accidentally found a big bag of money dumped in his yard, I think I'll just enjoy this gifted windfall and not worry about those issues I cannot control, prevent or take back. Titties. I don't really wanna be labeled a white knight. For the record I'm not the biggest Jennifer Lawrence fan. I can appreciate your stance on this, the penis wants what the penis wants. You seem to embrace the general skeeviness of your behavior and I can appreciate that. Your initial post just had a tone that suggested you feel there was a certain elegance to jerking off to leaked celebrity pics as opposed to porn and it just sounded weird. I can't blame anyone wanting to "use" these images, even if just for curiosity I can't lie it's hard not to but it's just a matter of principle for me. Not that I'm on a high horse, I'm dirt but I don't want any part of this privacy invasion. Nah, it's all good, man. The truth is, as far as the celebs go, I do feel bad for them. I however like taking the piss out of faux-do-gooders, whiners and complainers who seem to take everything so seriously and act like they hold the personal key to to solving the world's woes in their diminutive hands. My post on the "jerking off" thing was in reference to some not understanding that the fantasy is often in said celebrity, not some nobody. Like, if I liked Lita, and wanted to imagine or fantasize what she was like in bed, somehow I shouldn't, and should instead move my complete fake advances towards a nameless cam-whore or porn star instead. How does that make sense? It's all make believe anyway. Maybe my fantasy is Lita and I having a spirited conversation about punk rock, life in Mexico, before culminating in her moonsaulting onto my dick as Jim Ross (yes, he's there, head-set and all) cries out, "As god as my witness, that cock is broken in half!"? I can't do that with Gianna Michaels. She has not the athleticism or broadcasting experience. I'm paraphrasing on the last part. But ya, whatever. I am always who I am. And I kind of get amused at people who can't seem to understand why I don't bend to their own knee-jerk try-hard morality. (quick answer: A) because they want me to! and B) Because they're terrible). But not you, man. I love you, man. I consider you a card carrying charter member of the Seantourage. You're not dirt. Your awesome, bro. Never forget it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 1, 2014 1:47:11 GMT -5
Other than that he posts on 4chan, do we know anything about the guy who did this? Well Deadspin has some more... and they can expect to be flooded with calls on Tuesday morning. That pic in the comments with Verlander and Prince Fielder just cracked me up.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 1, 2014 1:48:05 GMT -5
Of course I've heard of the word "consent", there was really no need to be sarcastic about it. In fact, in my very first post in this thread, I said they have every right to take these photos and that only people they want to see them be allowed to see them. Is looking at these pictures of them that have been leaked without their permission wrong? Yes. Don't know where I said that someone thinking this was gross was offensive but since you've accused me of that, I'm sure you'll back it up with a quote somewhere. That doesn't negate the point that I think calling people who look at these pictures "the worst" is ridiculous. As I said before, when you say someone is the worst, you are saying that everyone else is better. So by that logic, a person looking at a picture gained illegally is worse than a paedophile, murderer or any other person at all. "Anyone who thinks someone who looks at a naked picture of a woman rates them as "the worst"" is absolutely not the issue Kate Leth was talking about, but since your post didn't seem to criticise the one by Kevin Hamilton, who was acting like what Kate Leth said was an affront, I assumed you were backing him up. If however you were talking about a completely unrelated issue in this thread for no reason, I apologise. And yeah, I do think the violation of someone's privacy and looking at them nude without their consent is a really big deal and 'the worst'. Same as I think homophobia, racism, etc are 'the worst'. Same as lots of things are 'the worst'. It's not trying to create a set scale, it's metonymy trying to show quite how despicable it is. An affront? Nope, I just said a)I didn't know who she was and b)I don't care what she thinks. I ain't mad, or even slightly disturbed.
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Post by Kash Flagg on Sept 1, 2014 1:50:35 GMT -5
I think this has gone far enough.
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Post by MGH on Sept 1, 2014 1:50:51 GMT -5
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 1, 2014 2:04:56 GMT -5
Of course I've heard of the word "consent", there was really no need to be sarcastic about it. In fact, in my very first post in this thread, I said they have every right to take these photos and that only people they want to see them be allowed to see them. Is looking at these pictures of them that have been leaked without their permission wrong? Yes. Don't know where I said that someone thinking this was gross was offensive but since you've accused me of that, I'm sure you'll back it up with a quote somewhere. That doesn't negate the point that I think calling people who look at these pictures "the worst" is ridiculous. As I said before, when you say someone is the worst, you are saying that everyone else is better. So by that logic, a person looking at a picture gained illegally is worse than a paedophile, murderer or any other person at all. "Anyone who thinks someone who looks at a naked picture of a woman rates them as "the worst"" is absolutely not the issue Kate Leth was talking about, but since your post didn't seem to criticise the one by Kevin Hamilton, who was acting like what Kate Leth said was an affront, I assumed you were backing him up. If however you were talking about a completely unrelated issue in this thread for no reason, I apologise. And yeah, I do think the violation of someone's privacy and looking at them nude without their consent is a really big deal and 'the worst'. Same as I think homophobia, racism, etc are 'the worst'. Same as lots of things are 'the worst'. It's not trying to create a set scale, it's metonymy trying to show quite how despicable it is. I agree with some of what you're saying but there is a set scale. The person responsible for these leaks, if caught, will face criminal charges. However, they obviously won't be pushing for a similar scale of imprisonment as that of a murderer, because society has deemed it as a lesser crime. I think the writer in question could have chosen her words better, even if I am taking it literally. If they are well-known (I know nothing about this woman but she must have some following for the tweet to be retweeted and favourited several times) then they should maybe clarify it a bit more.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 1, 2014 2:15:23 GMT -5
So outside of Kirsten Dunst and Selena Gomez, who are these people? Oh, I guess I know Kate Upton from people talking about her, I guess, she's a model?
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 1, 2014 2:19:38 GMT -5
Apologies, I quoted the post before Kash asked it to be dropped and because I had to stop halfway through typing my response, it posted long after Kash's post.
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