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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 2, 2014 15:11:38 GMT -5
I just found a claymore and it's actually helped find a system to grind that KIND OF works: I go to the Puppy Cave, dispatch whatever monster come my way, go back up to recover health and occasionally return to Vernis to sleep and buy/steal food.
Speaking of that, how absurdly hard is it to find food in this game?! Even when you kill animals, good luck getting any meat. And the food you can buy is ridiculously expensive.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 2, 2014 15:23:56 GMT -5
Leveling up is not as handy in some ways, since as you level up, your stats won't really get raised. You generally get them raised doing other things. For example, carrying heavy things can raise your strength stat. Like, if the potential for a stat is suberb, there's a good chance it'll get raised as you do stuff.
For example, the harvest quest. Even if you fail, lugging around those vegetables will steadily raise your strength.
As for food, corpses are the way to go. Best to get that anatomy skill improved so you get better chances at getting corpses. Eating certain things can raise the potential of your stats.
EDIT: for food, you can't pick up fruits in town, cause that would be stealing, but if you press e while standing on top of fruit and other food items, it'll take you to the eat screen where you can eat the fruit. You can also pick up some food with a bit of luck. When you're in a world map, press enter on an empty field and you'll enter the area. Some enemies to fight, and sometimes some loot and food.
edit edit: press e, not enter.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 2, 2014 15:35:37 GMT -5
I also realized you can just enter the local map mode while on the overworld and there are usually edible plants, fruits, etc... boy is there egg on my face. Good thing it's edible.
Also, my bread-stealing shenanigans + a failed quest have netted me a -40 karma and now guards everywhere kill me as soon as I enter a town. Great.
EDIT: AND NOW MY CLAYMORE IS CURSED!! FOR THE LOVE OF...!!
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 2, 2014 15:53:25 GMT -5
I also realized you can just enter the local map mode while on the overworld and there are usually edible plants, fruits, etc... boy is there egg on my face. Good thing it's edible. Also, my bread-stealing shenanigans + a failed quest have netted me a -40 karma and now guards everywhere kill me as soon as I enter a town. Great. EDIT: A NOW MY CLAYMORE IS CURSED!! FOR THE LOVE OF...!! Well, stick to Derphy for your quests. Choose plain escort quests, not the beauty and the beast ones. Drop them off at whatever town you have to go to, and get your reward and split. If you're level six and above getting killed by a guard will give you plus 10 karma. You need it lower than 20 in order to stop the guards from attacking. Also, did you know you can play blackjack? Find a casino table, and you'll get free casino chips for your first time. Don't cheat. You get negative karma in doing so.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 2, 2014 16:46:26 GMT -5
I also realized you can just enter the local map mode while on the overworld and there are usually edible plants, fruits, etc... boy is there egg on my face. Good thing it's edible. Also, my bread-stealing shenanigans + a failed quest have netted me a -40 karma and now guards everywhere kill me as soon as I enter a town. Great. EDIT: A NOW MY CLAYMORE IS CURSED!! FOR THE LOVE OF...!! P.S. When I said don't cheat, I'm talking about blackjack. You can cheat via switching your card, but you need high dexterity for that. P.S. Learn the cooking skill. Cooked food lasts longer than corpses, and they provide better increases in potentials.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 3, 2014 15:16:38 GMT -5
A'right, new problem. I have once again started a new game and I'm actually doing fairly good in this one, but for some reason, suddenly I keep missing all the damn time with melee weapons, only getting the old lucky strike in, and the enemies actually miss a lot. I checked my character sheet and it turns out I have a NEGATIVE hit percentage on both weapons, despite having a good level and potential for the type I'm using. And it's not just a bit either: -207% for the first weapon and -145% for the second one.
What the Hell is going on?!
Also, not sure if it's related but I suddenly no longer have an equipment slot for my back, leading me to fear I may have mutated without realizing it.
EDIT: Okay, I actually JUST figured it out. I was using a glass claymore which for some reason was severely reducing my hit rate. Even the info I can get on it by pressing "x" says nothing about it giving a penalty. I'm going to go ahead and assume there's a glitch going on.
EDIT 2: I still don't have a back.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 3, 2014 16:05:36 GMT -5
A'right, new problem. I have once again started a new game and I'm actually doing fairly good in this one, but for some reason, suddenly I keep missing all the damn time with melee weapons, only getting the old lucky strike in, and the enemies actually miss a lot. I checked my character sheet and it turns out I have a NEGATIVE hit percentage on both weapons, despite having a good level and potential for the type I'm using. And it's not just a bit either: -207% for the first weapon and -145% for the second one. What the Hell is going on?! Also, not sure if it's related but I suddenly no longer have an equipment slot for my back, leading me to fear I may have mutated without realizing it. EDIT: Okay, I actually JUST figured it out. I was using a glass claymore which for some reason was severely reducing my hit rate. Even the info I can get on it by pressing "x" says nothing about it giving a penalty. I'm going to go ahead and assume there's a glitch going on. EDIT 2: I still don't have a back. Two weapons? As I recall, Claymores are two-handed weapons, so there might be some penalties there. The weight of the weapon might be a problem as well. If I remember correctly, heavier weapons should be the first one, or something. Yep. I checked it with my new character I'm playing right now. Used a claymore and a battleaxe at the same time; my hit rate went from 128% to -300%. Claymores are two handed weapons, so adding a second one on hand gives severe accuracy penalties. Also, no back? Using a mutant? Anyways, try removing the second weapons first.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 3, 2014 18:42:05 GMT -5
Yeah, removing one weapon fixed it and it turns out the back thing is because of a mutation that gave me feathers and prevents me from wearing cloaks.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 3, 2014 23:04:09 GMT -5
Yeah, removing one weapon fixed it and it turns out the back thing is because of a mutation that gave me feathers and prevents me from wearing cloaks. Etherwind mutations can suck hard. There's also normal mutations where some can be completely beneficial. You can get normal mutations from water in wells... though there's a good chance you can get a non-etherwind negative mutation. Sometimes it happens when you sleep. Also, sleep on a bed by pressing enter on a bed, and picking the bed. Better beds equal more positive events while sleeping. Also also, on avoiding etherwind easily. Etherwind will always happen on the third, sixth, ninth, and twelfth month of the year, and always around the first ten days of the month. So hang around the outskirts of town when it's close to that time, and when it happens, enter the town and run like hell to the inn NPC and ask to go to the shelter. Time speeds up faster there, and there's a book and a training machine that can help improve a random skill potential or strength potential respectively. The only cure is a potion of cure corruption which is a rare drop. You get a guaranteed one if you marry an ally, but you need to get their relationship level to at least soul mate. Most normal way to do it is to let them kill a lot of enemies so that heart sign pops up a lot. Takes a while to do so. Again, you can marry anything, and you can marry as many people as you want. One other way to get an easy potion of cure corruption is to use the casino table. Play blackjack, but only bet with one chip. If you win four or five times in a row with one chip, there's a high chance the potion will be one of the rewards. They're expensive and make a good trade item for those random adventurers. If you're using them for trade, make sure you drop all but one on the ground first - otherwise, if you pick them as a trade item you will trade ALL of them. Also, the game doesn't really say it unless you take a good look at the manual, but when you level you get points to improve some of your skills. Press c, then left or right so you see the skills. Improving the skills while your stat potential is good to superb has a great chance to improve a stat. Also, every few levels you get a new feat as well. Lastly, aliens. Sometimes you get pregnant with them if you drink water. Very bad status effect, since a chestburster will burst out after a while. To cure, drink either poison, acid, or dye to kill them aliens. If a pet is pregnant hand one of those potions to them. You do not want an entire town infected.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 4, 2014 16:19:04 GMT -5
Oh yeah, once you find monster balls, try to use one on a gold or platinum bell. Catching them is hard as hell, thanks to their low hp. While it is low, they have a thing where the damage done to them is super low unless it's poison or magic (though the platinum ones are resistant to it, so trying to catch one might be better in the long run.)
And since they move fast and can vanish from the map... yeah, hard. However, once you get one it'll be an early to mid game breaker. Their attack is super weak, so no need for close range weapons. However, stick and bow in them, and you'll see how fast they can be at killing. You take one step, and it can shoot eight times in that amount you do with one turn.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 4, 2014 18:04:15 GMT -5
Okay, is it normal that I'm having so much trouble with the Puppy's Cave quest? It's a level 4 quest and my character is level 10! TEN!! Most missions by this point are fairly trivial and yet I STILL can't do it. Every time I make it to the bottom level, I get the dog and then BOOM! Monsters that I normally have little to no trouble fighting start slaughtering me.
Also, I used to have a Teleport spell and for some reason it's gone now. What gives? It's especially annoying considering I now have a mutation that makes me randomly teleport, and sometimes it teleports me in completely closed off areas, so without the spell I can only either hope for another random teleport or try and kill myself...
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 5, 2014 1:46:30 GMT -5
Okay, is it normal that I'm having so much trouble with the Puppy's Cave quest? It's a level 4 quest and my character is level 10! TEN!! Most missions by this point are fairly trivial and yet I STILL can't do it. Every time I make it to the bottom level, I get the dog and then BOOM! Monsters that I normally have little to no trouble fighting start slaughtering me. Also, I used to have a Teleport spell and for some reason it's gone now. What gives? It's especially annoying considering I now have a mutation that makes me randomly teleport, and sometimes it teleports me in completely closed off areas, so without the spell I can only either hope for another random teleport or try and kill myself... Hmm, how are your stats? Levels aren't that important except for the points you can put in skill, which may possibly increase stats if the potential is high enough, but even without those skill points, you can use platinum coins to increase the growth rate of skills, or eat food. As for spells, perhaps you've run out of spell stock? You need to find spell books and read them in order to be able to use spells. If your literacy skills is not high enough... well, it could go bad... like summon monsters bad. For stat growth... increasing potential for them can be tough. Once you gain enough of them the potential will soon drop, and getting it back up could be hard. Some food can help, and so can sleeping in bed. Usually when you wake up one of the last messages in the game log is how much % you've gained in potential. Sometimes guild trainers show up in your home. If you're not part of one of the three guilds, all types of trainers will show up monthly. It costs 4 platinum to get one of your stat potentials raised. To get them visiting your home, you need to hire a maid. Use the house board to hire one.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 6, 2014 10:33:28 GMT -5
The funniest/worst thing just happened on my Elona playthrough. Didn't pay attention to my karma meter too carefully, looted a body by accident, and now I'm a criminal. So I go decide to go to Noyel. On the church there you can buy an indulgence to half your negative karma, at an insanely high price depending on your fame. When I went there it cost about 80k.
But that fun happened before that. As was walking through the snowy terrain on the map... I didn't notice the time of the month. Etherwind, bitches! Hoo boy, it went downhill from there as I get the mutation of being addicted to potions. And I had some potions of cure mutations on hand. Two negative mutations and one positive one. I'm still slowly trudging through the snow, and more ether diseases pile up. I got around six to eight by the time I reached Noyel, and I had two more since I had to dig a wall through the church (since if I went by the front there'd be a guard waiting there) and then I had to run to the inn.
Fun times.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 6, 2014 15:50:10 GMT -5
Yeah, mutations are a bitch. At this point I have basically been turned into the Mothman: I have sores on my face, feathers, gooseflesh, hooves, an overly thick neck and "well-knit" arms. I also have anemia, generate gravity, absorb mana from rods and randomly teleport. On the plus side I'm absurdly fast and strong.
Oh and I'm also a cannibal.
F***, what am I doing escorting people and delivering shit from one person to another (literally in one case)?! I should be terrorizing towns and murdering children!
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 8, 2014 15:03:42 GMT -5
Yeah, mutations are a bitch. At this point I have basically been turned into the Mothman: I have sores on my face, feathers, gooseflesh, hooves, an overly thick neck and "well-knit" arms. I also have anemia, generate gravity, absorb mana from rods and randomly teleport. On the plus side I'm absurdly fast and strong. Oh and I'm also a cannibal. F***, what am I doing escorting people and delivering shit from one person to another (literally in one case)?! I should be terrorizing towns and murdering children! On the bright side, curing mutations are cheaper than curing etherwind. If you find a potion of cure mutation in the magic store, it costs around 3k or so. There's also potions of cure mutation, which could give you some decent mutations, which could stack. Even better, finding a potion of evolution can provide you with several good mutations, or cancel out the negative ones. Or if it's cursed, give you more bad ones. Cannibalism is kinda good. On the game. Like... more sources of meat, which is a good thing. If you've got some decent cooking skills generating cutlets, hamburgers, or steaks can sell for 1k or more, with steak being close to 5k if your negotiation skill is a little okay. The NPCs are hardly picky with food, it seems. They'll buy it even though it's human or poisonous. Hell, buy a ranch. Catch a putit. They have the highest breeding power in the game. Anything you kill in the ranch has a high chance of providing corpses - sometimes two on one kill. Lots of corpses to eat (and putit corpses can help train charisma) or sell. You also get skins which sell nicely. And for the extra tip of this post. Magic stores. Invest in one of them. 50-60 investments will help out lots (that's around 80-100k gold). You'll get a lot of good stuff available to you: -potions of evolution, and cure mutations. -potions of cure corruption... though they're the priciest at around 70-100k in price. You're better off finding casino chips in gathering spots in dungeons and doing blackjack. -sometimes holy water. very handy. dip them into a stack of items and they all get blessed, providing a price boost and some other benefits. -potions of potential. increases potential of a single stat. if blessed, trains potential of all stats, except for speed and luck.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 8, 2014 15:20:17 GMT -5
Yeah, mutations are a bitch. At this point I have basically been turned into the Mothman: I have sores on my face, feathers, gooseflesh, hooves, an overly thick neck and "well-knit" arms. I also have anemia, generate gravity, absorb mana from rods and randomly teleport. On the plus side I'm absurdly fast and strong. Oh and I'm also a cannibal. F***, what am I doing escorting people and delivering shit from one person to another (literally in one case)?! I should be terrorizing towns and murdering children! Also, some important notes I forgot. Lower your fame by failing certain quests. Harvest time, Party time, Hunting, and Birthdays work well. Higher fame means higher taxes and stronger rogue bosses out to rob you of gold. Harvest and hunting is easy enough, just exit the map. On party time you gotta dig the wall first. Birthdays and I want it quests has to expire first... which could be problematic if you take a ton of them, since there's a limit to how many jobs you can do and stuff. Escort and delivery quests are out of the question, since you get a karma penalty for those. And, well, wells and fountains. They can be good, they can be bad. Sometimes providing stat or potential boosts, sometimes the opposite. Sometimes alien pregnancies (bring poison or similar items just in case). Good or bad mutations too. The rarest has to be wishes. If you get one, you can wish for a number of things (except of course artifacts). couple of things that you can wish for that'll be very useful: -seven league boots. increase travel speed on maps. handy for escorting and delivering. -vindale cloak. protects you from etherwind. doesn't make you immune, but can help a little. -astral light pen. if the conditions are right, you can copy an NPC. At the top right side of Noyel, there's a special well that has higher chances of giving a good effect. Also, you can refill wells with potions, or vomit. Also also, do not I repeat DO NOT try to refill the well in Noyel. It'll stop working if you do. If the well is drained, it will refill for one charge every month or so.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 8, 2014 15:38:09 GMT -5
Already did the investing in magic shops and it's finally paying off as most of the ones I go to now frequently have potions of cure mutation... I still have plenty of mutations, though. BTW, is there anywhere I can buy casino chips? I've used up all the ones I got from my first visit.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 8, 2014 15:52:31 GMT -5
Already did the investing in magic shops and it's finally paying off as most of the ones I go to now frequently have potions of cure mutation... I still have plenty of mutations, though. BTW, is there anywhere I can buy casino chips? I've used up all the ones I got from my first visit. Nowhere, unfortunately. You gotta search for them in gather spots in dungeons... not sure if they're in the logs or the garbage piles or the rune. Just search for low level dungeons. For easy-ish ways to get potions of cure corruptions, you can get married. You need to get the affection rating of a pet to soul mate first. Engagement rings can boost them... but it's not recommended. Try to get it back, and you'll get a hit on relationship. Tough luck if their inventory is full of engagement rings. There's love potions, but you get a pretty big karma hit as I recall. Best method would have to be going in and out of the puppy cave, and let your pet kill all the enemies for you. Can take a while.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 10, 2014 12:37:29 GMT -5
For a long time, I didn't really do Party Time quests, but I realized just now that they're an easy way to farm for gold. Generally speaking, if your performance skill is good you'll be able to easily farm for gold, but for the not musically inclined it can still work for a mid-level character.
More or less it involves the slaughter of most party guests. Tourists and children are out since you get a karma hit for killing them. On the other hand, sometimes they get killed by other guests; the noble children drop lots of ores to sell, and tourists have ores and lost wallets (if you don't mind the karma hit you can open the wallets which usually hold a lot of gold (around 10k or more).
As for the other guests, they're fair game if you can kill them. Beggars and farmers and miners are easy targets. Also old people. They drop little gold, but sometimes they become corpses, and with some decent cooking skills you can provide skewered meat and 5k steaks to the apparently cannibalistic population of all cities (also, the barbecue sets in the party room have the best cooking value among the cooking tools; buy one or steal it, though the latter is hard since there's a ton of guests).
The other guests are a little bit tougher though. Citizens and nobles and whatnot are far stronger in the party room, but they provide the same rewards as the beggars. Among the generic guests, some have a chance to drop a unique item.
Lastly, the more unique NPCs located in the party room. Nia the one in Palmia is always there, and so is Sheena. The latter is a bit strong, but the former is easy pickings. The unique NPCs always drop a corpse, a figure, and a card to sell. Uniques from Sheena and above drop weapons and armors, but after Sheena it gets a lot tougher. Well, except that womanizer from Kapul, I think, but unlike the two he doesn't show up always.
Ah, that reminds me. Never attack the guy in the cloak. Maybe in the party room, but never in Vernis. If you can survive his attack, you'll soon hope that you didn't. He has the strongest sword in the game... unfortunately it has a special effect where it nukes the area, summons an ungodly amount of dragons, and creates a permanent area of etherwind. So if monsters are summoned around him in town... like alien infestations, or rod of summon monsters... well, tough luck. Vernis will forever be doomed. So, even if you get his weapon somehow, using it will be suicide.
That said, if you find the semi-rare item caramel of termination, for the love of whatever god your worshiping, don't eat it.
Anyways, do you give gold and ores to your pet? You need to so that their stats can be raised. For ores just hand it over to them like you would a weapon, and for gold you leave it on the ground for them to pick up. Make sure there aren't any items stacked on top of the gold, or they won't get it.
You can also feed them. They also get stat growth from them, so keep them fed. Use a stethoscope so you can see their health bar. Blue means they're ready to eat. They won't starve like you, but feeding them is important. They won't eat cursed food, even if it's not identified. However, they will eat any type of uncursed food, so don't let them eat undead, since those drain stats.
Them pets are immune to ether disease. Ether material equipment are usually good. So... well, you know the drill.
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