|
Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 5, 2014 10:07:31 GMT -5
Babe Ruth was nothing more than a fat old man with little girl legs. Here's something I found out recently, he wasn't really a Sultan!!! I still am unsure about sitting here in Lou Gehring's pants. You don't think that nerve disease he had is contagious do you? Can't have Big Kev shakin and twitchin.
|
|
|
Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 5, 2014 10:16:09 GMT -5
I've really went off Jon Jones recently. I used to think he was a good dude with a decent head on his shoulders, as well as being a great athlete, but the whole Cormier feud really revealed him to be a gigantic wanker.
As far as not enough respect, I feel people should stop calling Weidman a fluke etc. Dude's legit.
|
|
crabbymelt
ALF
I'm going to kick the living POOP out of him.
Posts: 1,047
|
Post by crabbymelt on Oct 5, 2014 10:53:10 GMT -5
I've really went off Jon Jones recently. I used to think he was a good dude with a decent head on his shoulders, as well as being a great athlete, but the whole Cormier feud really revealed him to be a gigantic wanker. As far as not enough respect, I feel people should stop calling Weidman a fluke etc. Dude's legit. Couldn't agree with you more. Now as far as the "getting too much respect because in real life, he's an uber douche" category- Michael Phelps. Holy crap, does he unite races, colors, and creeds in Baltimore for the mutual hatred of this man. Every person I talked to when I moved down here 3 years ago talked about meeting him, and with the same adage "what a f$^#ing douchebag!" Apparently, he has an astronomical appearance fee, is late to appearances, and very rude when he gets around to showing up. Now, on the flipside of that, everyone here loves Cal Ripkin. He gives boatloads to charity, does a ton of charity things in the community for nothing, and is always nice to everyone.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 10:59:51 GMT -5
I've really went off Jon Jones recently. I used to think he was a good dude with a decent head on his shoulders, as well as being a great athlete, but the whole Cormier feud really revealed him to be a gigantic wanker. As far as not enough respect, I feel people should stop calling Weidman a fluke etc. Dude's legit. I have no opinion on the backstage elements of people as...well, I never know what to trust, but I went off Jones about a year and a half back when noticing his attempted knee jarring/leg breaking kick attempts (coming down on the top of peoples knees), and his ludicrous fingers being outstretched in EVERY fight. Put your damned fingers into a fist, refs ask him to every so often but NEVER deduct points, it's dangerous and I'd not be surprised if someone with great hands faced him and ended up being half blind if they got poked in the eye when coming forward consistently. An element of stand up defense in MMA should not be "make them concerned about permanently losing vision." I agree about you with Weidman too, I don't like his attitude -I'm not a fan of smiling grinning patriot in any sport- but as a fighter he is damned good.
|
|
|
Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 5, 2014 11:08:06 GMT -5
I've really went off Jon Jones recently. I used to think he was a good dude with a decent head on his shoulders, as well as being a great athlete, but the whole Cormier feud really revealed him to be a gigantic wanker. As far as not enough respect, I feel people should stop calling Weidman a fluke etc. Dude's legit. I have no opinion on the backstage elements of people as...well, I never know what to trust, but I went off Jones about a year and a half back when noticing his attempted knee jarring/leg breaking kick attempts (coming down on the top of peoples knees), and his ludicrous fingers being outstretched in EVERY fight. Put your damned fingers into a fist, refs ask him to every so often but NEVER deduct points, it's dangerous and I'd not be surprised if someone with great hands faced him and ended up being half blind if they got poked in the eye when coming forward consistently. An element of stand up defense in MMA should not be "make them concerned about permanently losing vision." I agree about you with Weidman too, I don't like his attitude -I'm not a fan of smiling grinning patriot in any sport- but as a fighter he is damned good. I'll admit, I have considered using those kicks, but it does seem excessive. And they should really do something about his fingers, maybe say if he keeps it up, he'll get stripped, but I dunno if you can really police it that well without the ref constantly watching his hands. Agree on Weidman though, not a fan of the patriotism schtick, but he's damn good in the cage. People just shit on him because he beat the golden god that is Anderson Silva (Who I'm personally not a huge fan of.)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2014 11:14:53 GMT -5
I have no opinion on the backstage elements of people as...well, I never know what to trust, but I went off Jones about a year and a half back when noticing his attempted knee jarring/leg breaking kick attempts (coming down on the top of peoples knees), and his ludicrous fingers being outstretched in EVERY fight. Put your damned fingers into a fist, refs ask him to every so often but NEVER deduct points, it's dangerous and I'd not be surprised if someone with great hands faced him and ended up being half blind if they got poked in the eye when coming forward consistently. An element of stand up defense in MMA should not be "make them concerned about permanently losing vision." I agree about you with Weidman too, I don't like his attitude -I'm not a fan of smiling grinning patriot in any sport- but as a fighter he is damned good. I'll admit, I have considered using those kicks, but it does seem excessive. And they should really do something about his fingers, maybe say if he keeps it up, he'll get stripped, but I dunno if you can really police it that well without the ref constantly watching his hands. Agree on Weidman though, not a fan of the patriotism schtick, but he's damn good in the cage. People just shit on him because he beat the golden god that is Anderson Silva (Who I'm personally not a huge fan of.) I'm a big Anderson fan due to his skill and his dislike of the media (easy points) but I came round to the fact Weidman didn't get wound up by Anderson's arrogance, he didn't take the bait and rush in to be caught, and he had his range down enough to consistently hit Anderson, and those two bombs to take him out. He was the clear winner against an arrogant man who didn't have a plan B outside of laying bait and waiting to counter. It was a pity the second fight ended how it did, but again Weidman looked the much better fighter before the leg break so just further proof of Weidman's dedication to his craft.
|
|
|
Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 5, 2014 11:16:55 GMT -5
I'll admit, I have considered using those kicks, but it does seem excessive. And they should really do something about his fingers, maybe say if he keeps it up, he'll get stripped, but I dunno if you can really police it that well without the ref constantly watching his hands. Agree on Weidman though, not a fan of the patriotism schtick, but he's damn good in the cage. People just shit on him because he beat the golden god that is Anderson Silva (Who I'm personally not a huge fan of.) I'm a big Anderson fan due to his skill and his dislike of the media (easy points) but I came round to the fact Weidman didn't get wound up by Anderson's arrogance, he didn't take the bait and rush in to be caught, and he had his range down enough to consistently hit Anderson, and those two bombs to take him out. He was the clear winner against an arrogant man who didn't have a plan B outside of laying bait and waiting to counter. It was a pity the second fight ended how it did, but again Weidman looked the much better fighter before the leg break so just further proof of Weidman's dedication to his craft. Exactly, dude kept a level head and won as a result, then won the rematch because he was able to counter Silva's offence. But people view it as a fluke because he didn't get him to tap or didn't KO him after slugging it out with him. Which, lets face it, is a bad idea against Silva.
|
|
|
Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Oct 5, 2014 11:20:49 GMT -5
That great athlete Rappin' Rodney got no respect.
|
|
|
Post by Adam Black on Oct 5, 2014 11:34:47 GMT -5
YOUR LOCAL SPORTS TEAM SUCKS *awaits heat*
|
|
|
Post by Some Guy on Oct 5, 2014 11:58:16 GMT -5
Too much respect: Allen Iverson. I don't think he even approaches a top 100 player of all time, and people act like he's one of the greats. He was a complete chucker with unbelievably atrocious efficiency for most of his career, and never adapted his style of play. People also seem to think he "dragged a horrible 76ers team" to the Finals, which isn't true at all since the team was filled with great defenders and rebounders to offset his style of play. Plus, the Bucks should have beat them that year, it's not their fault that George Karl sucks. Not enough respect: Andruw Jones. Best defensive player of all time in the MLB maybe, and for that he should be in the Hall of Fame when his time is up. You saying Iverson isn't in the top 100 players of all time AND Andruw Jones is the best defensive player of all times almost cost me my phone. I really wanted to throw it against the wall. Really, really terrible post. Better defensive players than Andruw Jones...
|
|
BRV
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants him some Taco Flavored Kisses.
Posts: 16,894
|
Post by BRV on Oct 5, 2014 12:50:58 GMT -5
Too much respect: Allen Iverson. I don't think he even approaches a top 100 player of all time, and people act like he's one of the greats. He was a complete chucker with unbelievably atrocious efficiency for most of his career, and never adapted his style of play. People also seem to think he "dragged a horrible 76ers team" to the Finals, which isn't true at all since the team was filled with great defenders and rebounders to offset his style of play. Plus, the Bucks should have beat them that year, it's not their fault that George Karl sucks. Not enough respect: Andruw Jones. Best defensive player of all time in the MLB maybe, and for that he should be in the Hall of Fame when his time is up. While I agree with you on Andruw Jones, as I think he has the numbers to be a Hall of Famer but will probably be lost in the shuffle, you're positively insane about Allen Iverson not being close to a top-100 all-time player. His field goal percentage dipped below 40 percent only twice in his 14-year career. He led the league in scoring four times, and averaged 30-plus points per game four times. He was also a menace defensively, leading the league in steals per game three times and averaging two-plus steals per game 10 times. If there are 100 players better than Allen Iverson, I'd love to hear that list.
|
|
|
Post by Some Guy on Oct 5, 2014 13:01:49 GMT -5
Too much respect: Allen Iverson. I don't think he even approaches a top 100 player of all time, and people act like he's one of the greats. He was a complete chucker with unbelievably atrocious efficiency for most of his career, and never adapted his style of play. People also seem to think he "dragged a horrible 76ers team" to the Finals, which isn't true at all since the team was filled with great defenders and rebounders to offset his style of play. Plus, the Bucks should have beat them that year, it's not their fault that George Karl sucks. Not enough respect: Andruw Jones. Best defensive player of all time in the MLB maybe, and for that he should be in the Hall of Fame when his time is up. While I agree with you on Andruw Jones, as I think he has the numbers to be a Hall of Famer but will probably be lost in the shuffle, you're positively insane about Allen Iverson not being close to a top-100 all-time player. His field goal percentage dipped below 40 percent only twice in his 14-year career. He led the league in scoring four times, and averaged 30-plus points per game four times. He was also a menace defensively, leading the league in steals per game three times and averaging two-plus steals per game 10 times. If there are 100 players better than Allen Iverson, I'd love to hear that list. He was great at playing the passing lanes, but I don't know if I'd call him a menace defensively. He could be beaten man on man rather easily. I don't think bragging about his field goal percentage is a good idea, considering how pathetic his true shooting was for his career. He had a few good years, but I don't think he came anywhere close to deserving that MVP the year he won, nor do I think his reputation is well earned. To me, he's a glorified Jamal Crawford who shot a lot more.
|
|
BRV
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants him some Taco Flavored Kisses.
Posts: 16,894
|
Post by BRV on Oct 5, 2014 14:53:52 GMT -5
To me, he's a glorified Jamal Crawford who shot a lot more. OK, OK, I surrender. That was a good one.
|
|
Tony Schiavontay
Dennis Stamp
This is the greatest post in the history of this board!
Posts: 4,083
|
Post by Tony Schiavontay on Oct 5, 2014 15:18:01 GMT -5
Honestly, both Sidney Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin.
Ovechkin less so nowadays as his flaws have been brutally exposed over the past 3 or 4 seasons (non-existent defense and no real teamwork on offense). I think he's an incredibly talented player and what he does well, he does phenomenally well but he seems to go through periods where he looks like he just doesn't give a f***. Just not the kind of guy to build a team around. I actually think he'll do better in his 30s after being traded to another team where he'll just be a cog in a good machine as opposed to the machine but it'll depend on whether he can handle not being the centre of attention (which has proven difficult for him his whole career so far)
Sid is an amazing player, no doubt. One of the best in the league and I certainly enjoy watching him play the game. My problem is that, honestly, there are times when he's the biggest goon on the ice, cheap shotting guys, making greasy hits the whole game and then when someone on the other team gives him a receipt he tends to throw a temper tantrum and just kind of quit. It happened in the 2013 playoffs with the Bruins and especially in that embarrassing series with the Flyers in 2012 (with the classic, whiny "I don't like them" spiel after the game).
I guess both of these are just attitude things from both guys, though I'm sure if I was told I was the shit and immediately became the face of a business like both of those guys have, it would probably screw with me too.
|
|
|
Post by Milkman Norm on Oct 5, 2014 16:50:38 GMT -5
Yogi Berra has be cone known for his Yogiisms and as a result has lost respect as a player.
|
|
|
Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Oct 5, 2014 17:48:21 GMT -5
WAY TOO MUCH respect is given to Jordan. If only everyone knew what a massive scumbag he is as a human being, then perhaps their rose-colored glasses wouldn't be so rosy. I never liked him growing up, but mostly because everyone else did and i always went against the grain with stuff like that. However, over time, I've learned just how big of an ass he is. I'm convinced that he had a role in his father getting murdered, and that his time in minor league baseball was a cover-up for being suspended from the NBA for gambling/mafia activity that led to his dad's death.
|
|
|
Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Oct 5, 2014 18:01:17 GMT -5
|
|
Jazzman
King Koopa
Trombone Shorty > Your Favorite Musician
Posts: 11,231
|
Post by Jazzman on Oct 5, 2014 19:37:15 GMT -5
Too much respect goes to Floyd Mayweather. For a dude to be a habitual woman beater and hater, yet still be treated like a god by boxing writers and TV producers and boxing licensing companies because he is boxing's only draw and the only thing keeping the sport on the front page is both a sobering look in the mirror for boxing and what it has become, and for those industries for failing to do their real job in deference to the the ting that keeps them employed.
As far as too little respect, I look at Craig Biggio. The fact that he didn't get in the Hall of Fame last year is insane, and the fact that he isn't really talked about as one of the best second basemen ever is also kinda disappointing.
|
|
|
Post by Hurbster on Oct 5, 2014 20:16:30 GMT -5
Never enough respect for a true one club football hero - Matt le Tissier.
|
|
|
Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Oct 6, 2014 0:16:08 GMT -5
I've really went off Jon Jones recently. I used to think he was a good dude with a decent head on his shoulders, as well as being a great athlete, but the whole Cormier feud really revealed him to be a gigantic wanker. As far as not enough respect, I feel people should stop calling Weidman a fluke etc. Dude's legit. Well I think with Jones he is a case of it goes both ways as people will bitch at him over anything no matter how small and insignificant it is but his behavior over the past couple of years has quite often made him look like a major arsehole. Also I'll agree with on Weidman as this whole it was a fluke argument is total bullshit.
|
|