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Post by joediego on Oct 15, 2014 2:35:04 GMT -5
Well until I hear it from him I won't believe this. The last update was that he is recovering and that he wouldn't need the surgery which Brie confirmed in an interview. If this turns out to be true than just retire with the rest of your health intact. Why would he do that? He has a problem, this is an option for fixing it, he needs to get back to the ring and earn money in the next 2-3 years that will keep him and his family set for the rest of their lives. Why on earth would he give up?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 2:36:58 GMT -5
Well until I hear it from him I won't believe this. The last update was that he is recovering and that he wouldn't need the surgery which Brie confirmed in an interview. If this turns out to be true than just retire with the rest of your health intact. Why would he do that? He has a problem, this is an option for fixing it, he needs to get back to the ring and earn money in the next 2-3 years that will keep him and his family set for the rest of their lives. Why on earth would he give up? He's a small town guy who doesn't spend a ton, has saved/looked after himself and his loved ones even as far back as the early-mid 2000s when he started turning a very comfortable living around the world, and isn't that fond of the notion of being a celebrity. If he's hurt enough to not seem 100% on returning, he's one of the people who I could see settling down and not ruining his body for a business that cares not for the humanity of it's competitors.
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Post by joediego on Oct 15, 2014 2:43:28 GMT -5
He's addicted to the business, he loves it, it's what he's born to do. He's not going to leave money and potential on the table if there's a solution for it.
I just quibble with people that say he should retire because he needs arm ligament surgery. Athletes in all sports are in and out of hospital rooms, it's what they do. There have been far more serious operations in wrestling where the wrestler returns afterwards because they love the industry and they have a limited timeframe on their earnings potential.
Should Austin have retired in August 1997? His injury was more serious than Bryan's, and will cause him pain for the rest of his life. If he retired then he'd 'still have his health' right?
He worked through the pain for another 4 years and reached his potential in the industry, financially and creatively. I don't know why people are encouraging Bryan to leave money and potential on the table, for some perceived happy future.
If he gave up now he'd wonder 'what if' for the rest of his life. Until a Doctor tells him he can't continue, it would be the height of foolishness to quit.
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Post by CertifiedBA on Oct 15, 2014 2:53:14 GMT -5
Bryan's peaked, he needs to take care of himself at this point. Wrestling will hardly ever achieve the mainstream status it did in the past, and if it does, I don't see DB being the face of the business. Good luck brah.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 15, 2014 2:58:51 GMT -5
Bryan's peaked, he needs to take care of himself at this point. Wrestling will hardly ever achieve the mainstream status it did in the past, and if it does, I don't see DB being the face of the business. Good luck brah. There are thousands of guys who will never becomes the face of the business who don't have a tenth of the talent Bryan has. It would be a shame if it went to waste. Even if he doesn't reach those same heights again I'm sure he'd still like to work matches. He should take all the time off he needs, but I don't think he should retire just yet.
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Post by joediego on Oct 15, 2014 3:27:58 GMT -5
Bryan's peaked, he needs to take care of himself at this point. Wrestling will hardly ever achieve the mainstream status it did in the past, and if it does, I don't see DB being the face of the business. Good luck brah. 'Taking care of himself' is returning and making money as the 2nd-10th biggest attraction in the biggest wrestling company in the world. I don't know what your 'taking care of himself' means but I think it's probably 40-50 years of regrets and what-ifs.
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Post by CertifiedBA on Oct 15, 2014 3:38:06 GMT -5
Bryan's peaked, he needs to take care of himself at this point. Wrestling will hardly ever achieve the mainstream status it did in the past, and if it does, I don't see DB being the face of the business. Good luck brah. 'Taking care of himself' is returning and making money as the 2nd-10th biggest attraction in the biggest wrestling company in the world. I don't know what your 'taking care of himself' means but I think it's probably 40-50 years of regrets and what-ifs. If he can come back and get a few WM payoffs, he can retire somewhere. After what he's done so far, probably has a house bought and paid for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 3:43:07 GMT -5
He's addicted to the business, he loves it, it's what he's born to do. He's not going to leave money and potential on the table if there's a solution for it. I just quibble with people that say he should retire because he needs arm ligament surgery. Athletes in all sports are in and out of hospital rooms, it's what they do. There have been far more serious operations in wrestling where the wrestler returns afterwards because they love the industry and they have a limited timeframe on their earnings potential. Should Austin have retired in August 1997? His injury was more serious than Bryan's, and will cause him pain for the rest of his life. If he retired then he'd 'still have his health' right? He worked through the pain for another 4 years and reached his potential in the industry, financially and creatively. I don't know why people are encouraging Bryan to leave money and potential on the table, for some perceived happy future. If he gave up now he'd wonder 'what if' for the rest of his life. Until a Doctor tells him he can't continue, it would be the height of foolishness to quit. It's the opposite side of the health/money coin, Bryan's had a huge 'Mania moment, has lived his dream, reached the top of the mountain, wrestled around the world, knows full well he's THE most popular guy in the entire company, and if things don't improve or he's not happy he could leave rich and without a lost dream in the world. I agree if he wants to continue that it's great, but he doesn't have to if he doesn't want to, he defines success on his own terms (he just happens to be better than 99% of pro-wrestlers at making people support him) so if he doesn't carry on because he's smart with money/his health, it'd be good to see. As a fan it'd be great to see him have as many years on top as possible too of course, but he doesn't need the money, he's well off as it is and lives a simple life when not on the road.
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Post by joediego on Oct 15, 2014 3:45:17 GMT -5
Yup, and Austin probably had similar before he broke his neck, now he has $10m+; HHH probably had a house bought and paid for before the quads now he's effectively worth $100m+.
And what's likely more important than the money to Bryan is that both examples returned and cemented a legacy as true greats of the business. Bryan will be fondly remembered but it will always be a 'what-if' if he takes a lot people's advice ITT and quits.
The idea that Bryan should 'give up' and 'retire happy' is oxymoronic, with a heavy stress on the second syllable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 3:47:12 GMT -5
Yup, and Austin probably had similar before he broke his neck, now he has $10m+; HHH probably had a house bought and paid for before the quads now he's effectively worth $100m+. The idea that Bryan should 'give up' and 'retire happy' is oxymoronic, with a heavy stress on the second syllable. He defines success on his own terms and has always saved from the mid 2000s, if he's not well/not pleased and quits having been the star of a generation, he can retire happily. No oxymoron mentions required, money doesn't define all of us. If he does come back, s'cool, if he doesn't, it doesn't make him a fool.
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Post by Boo! on Oct 15, 2014 4:46:20 GMT -5
Any truth to the rumors that Brock Lesnar may have to undergo Jimmy Johns surgery? No that's Jimmy Ray, who wants to know?
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Oct 15, 2014 5:08:07 GMT -5
Once again, something in WWE that would considered unthinkable in almost any other sports and or entertainment venture. If a pro-football player winds up getting hurt, guarantee the dude's not worried about "no income" and having to pay for the cost of surgeries/rehab out of his own pocket. Guess Vince is saving up for HHH's kids' Presidential campaigns. It's a Total Divas storyline, I'd venture to say that Vince is paying for Bryan's surgery. Bryan when healthy was the top guy, he furthered the injury wrestling for WWE, and he's still under contract.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 15, 2014 5:53:53 GMT -5
Once again, something in WWE that would considered unthinkable in almost any other sports and or entertainment venture. If a pro-football player winds up getting hurt, guarantee the dude's not worried about "no income" and having to pay for the cost of surgeries/rehab out of his own pocket. Guess Vince is saving up for HHH's kids' Presidential campaigns. It's a Total Divas storyline, I'd venture to say that Vince is paying for Bryan's surgery. Bryan when healthy was the top guy, he furthered the injury wrestling for WWE, and he's still under contract. That's almost worst. Does WWE not have somebody in charge of brand management? Making it look like the company is leaving one of their guys out in the cold...bold strategy.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Oct 15, 2014 9:07:00 GMT -5
So, is he getting strength in his arm back or not? The last report said he was. Are we flip flopping for the sake of freaking people out or what?
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Post by Chiral on Oct 15, 2014 9:41:57 GMT -5
So, is he getting strength in his arm back or not? The last report said he was. Are we flip flopping for the sake of freaking people out or what? I know this isn't remotely the same situation, but I can't help but think of Cena's 2007 injury where WWE reported he'd be out for a year or more when it really was only a few months. Maybe I'm just skeptical because I saw this article on Bleacher Report...
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Post by Stu on Oct 15, 2014 9:52:41 GMT -5
Remember when a (roughly) 33-year-old Shawn Michaels injured his back, disappeared for five years, came back for nearly 10 years of great matches and then actually retired?
Point is, we could look back 10 years from now and Daniel Bryan's year-long absence could barely be a blip on our radar. Of course, that's just me being optimistic.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 15, 2014 10:02:07 GMT -5
Bryan's peaked, he needs to take care of himself at this point. Wrestling will hardly ever achieve the mainstream status it did in the past, and if it does, I don't see DB being the face of the business. Good luck brah. There are thousands of guys who will never becomes the face of the business who don't have a tenth of the talent Bryan has. It would be a shame if it went to waste. Even if he doesn't reach those same heights again I'm sure he'd still like to work matches. He should take all the time off he needs, but I don't think he should retire just yet. If it's the difference between being able to get along comfortably the rest of his life or not (mind, I'm not saying it is, just generally); then his talents at pretending to fight should always come secondary to that. As fans, a dude's health and well-being should be the first concern for a dude. That may, hopefully, not apply here; but if it does then he and anyone else should leave rasslin behind.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Oct 15, 2014 10:30:54 GMT -5
Why should he retire if he needs to have it done so be it. When the idea that he comeback better than ever from it when he knows he loves wrestling. When he knows the fans love him so much they will not allow him to be make a lot of money on the big stage. Having his moment or not he still can do more. Yes he may have a home paid off but what about making sure he had money for his future kids college? Making sure when he old in his 70s and so forth he set to live a good life at the normal retirement age.
Think about this, look at sports athletes in general. I give you an example Adam Wainwright He has had two Tommy John surgeries in his career. Should he have retired at the second one? Even though both times he came back and not only been a Cy Young contender every healthy year and gotten the World Series ring. Right now he is one of the best pitchers in the MLB. He didn't for two reasons because not only he loves baseball. The fact he plays on a team that has a chance every year to make the playoffs. One day if he keeps going like he is, he will be in the hall of fame.
It's like any player who suffered a season ending injury, they all try to comeback. Because they all have this thought of if possible walking away from the game at there own choice having that curtain call moment like Jeter had for example. You think Bryan wants his last moment in wrestling too be I was stripped of the WWE World title and knowing that I ended my career on something that CAN be fixed.
When I'm sure Bryan's dream to retire from wrestling with having a moment like HBK or Flair got.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 14:48:57 GMT -5
How weird if Bryan became a head NXT trainer alongside his mentor, William Regal and someone he helped train in Sara Del Rey. 3 generations of lineage all teaching together and out the ring themselves. Terrible for us fans but f***ing awesome if you're learning in NXT in a few years.
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Post by Widow's Peak on Oct 15, 2014 18:43:36 GMT -5
The Observer update seems to confirm this story, but nobody knows the exact timeline. He might be ready for Mania, but it could possibly be up to a year. I hope that if he is going to be out of the Rumble that they announce it beforehand, otherwise, poor entrant #30 is going to be peppered with boos. Never mind what will happen to the poor guy who actually wins the thing (with the possible exception of that guy being Dean Ambrose, maybe).
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