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Post by BRV on Nov 24, 2014 11:22:30 GMT -5
The only way this makes a lick of sense is: A. They trade Cespedes and move Hanley to left I don't like it. In his brief 51-game stint in Boston, Yoenis Cespedes hit .269 with five home runs, 33 RBI, 10 doubles, and three triples. In a full season, with 81 games at Fenway Park, it's not unreasonable to think he could make a run at a 25-100 season while serving as the protection for David Ortiz in the middle of the lineup. Also, Cespedes is two years younger than Hanley Ramirez and the team has him under control through the 2015 season, so if things fall apart next year, they could always move him around the trade deadline. Unfortunately, the writing for this seemed to be on the wall last month, when the all-too-typical smear campaign came against Cespedes, that the coaches "all hate" him. And with the Jason Heyward-for-Shelby Miller deal last week, the going rate for a player like Cespedes isn't an ace, or even a number two starter, it's a middle-of-the-rotation arm. This I could talk myself into. I love Mike Napoli like you wouldn't understand, but his ability to stay on the field for the duration of the season is in question, his power stroke is in decline, and that .248 average from last season isn't what you want or need from a guy who is penciled in to be your cleanup or fifth hitter. This trade would in theory keep Cespedes and wouldn't screw with Xander Bogaerts' development at shortstop. The only question is if Pablo Sandoval can play first. There's a Daniel Bryan GIF for this. Look, the only way you could talk me into trading Bogaerts or Betts (or both in a package deal) is if the Red Sox are landing Chris Sale or someone who is a damn near replica of Chris Sale. None of this Cole Hamels or Mat Latos bulls***. If you're trading 1 and 1a in your farm system, it has to be for one of the 10 or so best starting pitchers in the game.
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 24, 2014 11:59:57 GMT -5
The 2015 Hall of Fame ballot have been announced. www.baseballhall.org/hof/2015-bbwaa-ballotThe full list (Parentheses are year on ballot and percentage received last year): Rich Aurilia (1) Jeff Bagwell (5, 54.3%) Craig Biggio (3, 74.8%) Barry Bonds (3, 34.7%) Aaron Boone (1) Tony Clark (1) Roger Clemens (3, 35.4%) Carlos Delgado (1) Jermaine Dye (1) Darin Erstad (1) Cliff Floyd (1) Nomar Garciaparra (1) Brian Giles (1) Tom Gordon (1) Eddie Guardado (1) Randy Johnson (1) Jeff Kent (2, 15.2%) Edgar Martinez (6, 25.2%) Pedro Martinez (1) Don Mattingly (15, 8.2%) Fred McGriff (6, 11.7%) Mark McGwire (9, 11.0%) Mike Mussina (2, 20.3%) Troy Percival (1) Mike Piazza (3, 62.2%) Tim Raines (8, 46.1%) Curt Schilling (3, 29.2%) Jason Schmidt (1) Gary Sheffield (1) Lee Smith (13, 29.9%) John Smoltz (1) Sammy Sosa (3, 7.2%) Alan Trammell (14, 20.8%) Larry Walker (5, 10.2%)
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Nov 24, 2014 12:11:23 GMT -5
I'm a bitter person when it comes to people leaving my team. So on that note, thanks for the rings and memories Pablo, but I hope the Yankees and the rest of the AL East kick your ass for the next 5 years.
If the Giants follow up with component moves (big big if) I'm actually surprisingly okay with letting Pablo walk. 5 years for a hefty guy with a noted weight issue. It could get ugly. Maybe it won't, and I'll be wrong but it's Boston's problem now.
Also, Giants.. Get Yasmany Tomas on speed-dial!
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Nov 24, 2014 12:12:24 GMT -5
And whoever votes on the Hall needs to pull their collective heads out of their asses and induct Barry Bonds.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 12:16:43 GMT -5
And whoever votes on the Hall needs to pull their collective heads out of their asses and induct Barry Bonds. No.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 24, 2014 12:27:45 GMT -5
And whoever votes on the Hall needs to pull their collective heads out of their asses and induct Barry Bonds.
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Post by Jazzman on Nov 24, 2014 13:44:56 GMT -5
So Unit, Pedro and Biggio are locks... Who else gets in?
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Post by Cyno on Nov 24, 2014 14:11:06 GMT -5
Biggio isn't a lock, as the last couple of years have shown. He was two votes shy but this is the BBWAA we're talking about here.
Pedro and the Big Unit are locks, though. I'm also expecting Smoltz to get in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 14:15:04 GMT -5
I would love to see Mike Mussina get in.
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Post by BRV on Nov 24, 2014 14:17:40 GMT -5
Here are my eight inductees and the reasoning behind each selection. Most are leftovers from last year.
- Jeff Bagwell: Career .297/.408/.540 line with 449 career home runs, one of the most dominant power hitters of his era, and a surprisingly stout defensive first baseman through the first half of his career. I can't understand all of this PED talk, because unlike alleged PED users, his career fell off a cliff when he hit his late 30s, as opposed to finding new life.
- Craig Biggio: A dynamic, Gold Glove-caliber second baseman who displayed remarkable consistency. His 3,060 hits may have been accrued over a 20-year career, but 3,000 hits, whether in 20 seasons or two seasons, warrants being inducted to Cooperstown.
- Barry Bonds: You want to put it on his plaque that he was a PED guy? Be my guest. Babe Ruth didn't have to play against players of color. Hank Aaron hit his 755 home runs in an era when amphetamines were passed around like chewable vitamins. If you look hard enough, I'm sure you could find something to accuse every baseball player ever. But don't ignore the 494 home runs, 471 stolen bases, three MVP awards and nine All-Star appearances that he achieved before his alleged steroid use began. Also, he's baseball's all-time home run king. In an era when almost everybody was cheating, he was still the most feared hitter in the game.
- Roger Clemens: Like Bonds, he was a Hall of Famer before the alleged PED use, and like Bonds he deserves enshrinement. One of the most dominant power pitchers ever, plain and simple. And like Bonds, if you want to slap an asterisk on his plaque, feel free.
- Randy Johnson: A 300-game winner who finished with nearly 5,000 career strikeouts and five Cy Young awards. Just a positively dominant force who sent chills down the spines of opposing hitters. His dominance spanned the better part of a decade, as he was among the league's best pitchers from 1993 to 2004.
- Pedro Martinez: Like Sandy Koufax, he came and went in what felt like the blink of an eye. For Koufax, it was 1962 to 1966. For Martinez, it was 1997 to 2002. But like Koufax, those brief, fleeting years were transcendent. In an era dominated by steroid-filled monsters setting new offensive records on a seemingly yearly basis, Martinez was a dynamic stopper who could make even the best hitter look like a middling minor leaguer. For five or six years in the late 1990s and early 2000s, he was unquestionably the best pitcher in the game, and second-place wasn't really all that close.
- Mike Piazza: On the Mount Rushmore of the catching position, alongside Carlton Fisk, Johnny Bench and Pudge Rodriguez. A trainwreck defensively, but easily the most dominant offensive catcher of his generation. A lifetime .308 batting average ain't too shabby for a backstop.
- Tim Raines: Played in the era of Rickey Henderson, and was stuck for most of his career in Montreal, but he absolutely deserves to be in Cooperstown. One of the most feared baserunners ever, Raines stole 808 bases in 954 attempts, for an unfathomable stolen base percentage nearing 85 percent.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Nov 24, 2014 14:34:20 GMT -5
Pedro and Unit are absolute locks who should clear 95%, but there are several others who should get in, who may or may not get in this year.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Nov 24, 2014 14:37:27 GMT -5
- Craig Biggio: A dynamic, Gold Glove-caliber second baseman who displayed remarkable consistency. His 3,060 hits may have been accrued over a 20-year career, but 3,000 hits, whether in 20 seasons or two seasons, warrants being inducted to Cooperstown. I disagree with the bolded part. Just because a player hangs on long enough to get 3,000 hits, that doesn't make him worthy. Harold Baines was around 150 hits short of 3,000, but if he had gotten 3,000 and was voted in, he'd be one of the worst players in the HOF. Same with Doc Cramer. He had very little value aside from getting a bunch of singles. People need to stop using the once-magical milestones as barometers of HOF worthiness and should instead look at advanced metrics, which fortunately have become more and more prominent in examining HOF worthiness. That said, I feel that Biggio is worthy, but barely.
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Post by Some Guy on Nov 24, 2014 14:58:44 GMT -5
There should absolutely be 10 guys this year, since there are about 14 guys good enough to get in right now. My votes...
Pedro Bonds Clemens RJ Piazza Biggio Bagwell Raines Schilling (absolutely despise him though) Smoltz
Trammel, Edgar, Mussina all deserve it as well.
Also, since Yoenis was brought up earlier with Heyward...Heyward is a far better player worth much more.
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 24, 2014 15:02:58 GMT -5
With a nickname like "The Big Unit" you deserve to get into the Hall of Fame on the first ballot even without taking your career into account.
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Post by stealthamo on Nov 24, 2014 15:35:21 GMT -5
Here would be my ballot, though I really need to look everyone over to be sure:
Bagwell Biggio Bonds Clemens Johnson E. Martinez P. Martinez Piazza Raines Smoltz
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 24, 2014 16:24:39 GMT -5
Dodgers acquired RHP Juan Nicasio from the Rockies for a player to be named later or cash considerations.
USA Today's Bob Nightengale reports that the Red Sox "have had the most serious talks" with the Phillies regarding a trade for ace Cole Hamels.
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Post by BRV on Nov 24, 2014 17:11:33 GMT -5
USA Today's Bob Nightengale reports that the Red Sox "have had the most serious talks" with the Phillies regarding a trade for ace Cole Hamels. Yep, that's just what the Red Sox need to do, blow up their farm system for an overpaid soon-to-be 31-year-old pitcher who is 8-13 with a 4.54 ERA in 29 starts against American League opponents. Cole Hamels is the definition of a National League pitcher. Unless they are able to absolutely fleece the Phillies, I want no part of him in Boston.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Nov 24, 2014 17:20:15 GMT -5
The Seattle Mariners and third baseman Kyle Seager have agreed to a seven-year, $100 million deal that includes an option for an eighth year. HOORAY I love Seager
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 24, 2014 19:28:34 GMT -5
The Seattle Mariners and third baseman Kyle Seager have agreed to a seven-year, $100 million deal that includes an option for an eighth year. HOORAY I love Seager Yeah, out of every player that Seattle didn't have signed long term (read as: Everyone but Felix and Cano) Seager would be my first priority. And even if his numbers don't go up and just kinda stay like this year (his offense has been getting better each season) he would still be a good 3rd baseman on any team and it would still be a team friendly contract in the long run. Now it's hoping for a decent right-handed power hitter and no injuries and we migh get a playoff bound team this year!
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Nov 24, 2014 19:29:13 GMT -5
And whoever votes on the Hall needs to pull their collective heads out of their asses and induct Barry Bonds. And Clemens, Piazza, Bagwell, and Big Mac
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