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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 25, 2014 5:14:41 GMT -5
I BROKE WAHOO'S NECK
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 9:48:15 GMT -5
Leg. And this is very different. Valentine didn't legitimately injure multiple guys because of a particular move being unsafe (whether his fault or the guy taking it wrong, the fact is it has proven to be unsafe to continue doing), and then try to cash in on all of those injuries by selling a shirt.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 25, 2014 9:56:32 GMT -5
Leg. And this is very different. Valentine didn't legitimately injure multiple guys because of a particular move being unsafe (whether his fault or the guy taking it wrong, the fact is it has proven to be unsafe to continue doing), and then try to cash in on all of those injuries by selling a shirt. I know that, I was just mixing the two up for fun.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 25, 2014 10:56:21 GMT -5
I really don't think AJ is completely free of the botch blame.
In the Yoshi clip he barely has any control over his legs and torso. Then he jumps down and forward. Sloppy execution all around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 11:00:40 GMT -5
Double J gives his 2 cents.. On whether AJ Styles should change his finisher, The Styles Clash: “I want to have all due respect to guys that have been injured but I’ve heard that and I just have to laugh. Actually, I laughed. This business, as Jim Ross says, ‘it ain’t ballet.’ But you need to learn how to protect yourself and if you can’t protect yourself, either A get out of the business or B don’t take it. Don’t put it on AJ. Back in the asylum, Frankie Kazarian took it wrong and I know that the nature of our business is the tuck your chin to protect your neck. On this, know going in, focus and know, if AJ can be in this predicament. You know what to do. I put it on the performer, not on AJ. Not even close. It’s ridiculous, in my opinion, for someone to say, ‘AJ, that move needs to be banned.’ He’s done it for 12 years and, if a guy can’t protect himself, it’s not AJ’s fault.”And I would say to that: Why should a worker have to do something he's not comfortable doing, that flies in the face of his training, in order to get someone else over for, realistically, a few hundred dollars pay?
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Post by thetower52 on Dec 25, 2014 11:07:11 GMT -5
People get way to offended by this shit, it makes me laugh because the shirt is accomplishing what it's suppose to.
But the design of the shirt is f***ing awful
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Dec 25, 2014 12:29:11 GMT -5
He's a heel in New Japan, and Lionheart credited him for taking advantage of his reputation on Facebook earlier. Not that much different from Owen Hart's "I Just Broke Your Neck" shirt. Yeah, but there's being a heel, then there's being an unrepentant c***. Honestly, I agree with what quite a few others are saying, I like his in-ring stuff, but as a person, Styles is a turd.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Dec 25, 2014 12:50:20 GMT -5
heres the thing - yoshi breaking his neck was his own fault. harsh to say but he botched taking the move, aj didn't botch doing it. that being said, its an awful looking shirt.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 25, 2014 12:54:37 GMT -5
Why the clip art and three different fonts?
Horrible design.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 12:59:02 GMT -5
Horrible design, incredibly bad taste. Poor form all around.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 25, 2014 12:59:03 GMT -5
Double J gives his 2 cents.. On whether AJ Styles should change his finisher, The Styles Clash: “I want to have all due respect to guys that have been injured but I’ve heard that and I just have to laugh. Actually, I laughed. This business, as Jim Ross says, ‘it ain’t ballet.’ But you need to learn how to protect yourself and if you can’t protect yourself, either A get out of the business or B don’t take it. Don’t put it on AJ. Back in the asylum, Frankie Kazarian took it wrong and I know that the nature of our business is the tuck your chin to protect your neck. On this, know going in, focus and know, if AJ can be in this predicament. You know what to do. I put it on the performer, not on AJ. Not even close. It’s ridiculous, in my opinion, for someone to say, ‘AJ, that move needs to be banned.’ He’s done it for 12 years and, if a guy can’t protect himself, it’s not AJ’s fault.”And I would say to that: Why should a worker have to do something he's not comfortable doing, that flies in the face of his training, in order to get someone else over for, realistically, a few hundred dollars pay? What makes me upset is, it's not like that's the only way AJ can get over. It's AJ freaking Styles, he has a ton of cool looking moves that could be used as believable finishes that don't cause wrestlers to go against their instincts.
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Post by chrom on Dec 25, 2014 15:43:45 GMT -5
Give me a break with this whining about AJ when the accidents were all on the other guys and yet you guys are discussing it which is just what he wants you to do. A number here will probably buy the shirt as well. An idiotic imbecile I have the displeasure of knowing on WrestlingForum who hates AJ cause he left TNA goes on and on since then about he's trying to kill people. How about we just scrap Wrestling altogether and replace it with Primetime Curling? That sound better to you guys?
Owen accidentally broke Austin’s neck, nearly paralyzed and could’ve killed him 17 years ago but no one ever brings that up anymore even though he wore proudly wore a shirt saying Owen 3:16 says I just broke your neck. Imagine the outrage if the IWC existed back then the way it does today. Vince would’ve fired him in a heartbeat. And Greg Valentine took full advantage of breaking Wahoo’s leg as well. And like a Shark to blood Heyman quickly dubbed Benoit the Crippler when he botched a move on Sabu and broke his neck. I guess we’ll need to wait for Styles to don a mask and fall to his death before The Janus around here turns their face again
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Dec 25, 2014 16:01:34 GMT -5
Give me a break with this whining about AJ when the accidents were all on the other guys and yet you guys are discussing it which is just what he wants you to do. A number here will probably buy the shirt as well. An idiotic imbecile I have the displeasure of knowing on WrestlingForum who hates AJ cause he left TNA goes on and on since then about he's trying to kill people. How about we just scrap Wrestling altogether and replace it with Primetime Curling? That sound better to you guys? Owen accidentally broke Austin’s neck, nearly paralyzed and could’ve killed him 17 years ago but no one ever brings that up anymore even though he wore proudly wore a shirt saying Owen 3:16 says I just broke your neck. Imagine the outrage if the IWC existed back then the way it does today. Vince would’ve fired him in a heartbeat. And Greg Valentine took full advantage of breaking Wahoo’s leg as well. And like a Shark to blood Heyman quickly dubbed Benoit the Crippler when he botched a move on Sabu and broke his neck. I guess we’ll need to wait for Styles to don a mask and fall to his death before The Janus around here turns their face again Okay then, say it was you, someone puts you in unnecessary risk and you end up with a broken neck. Instead of apologising and changing their ways, they are unrepentant and start producing shirts about it to turn a profit. You really think you'd be ok with it? Honestly, it reminds me a bit of that thing with Matt Sydal's brother, where he said he wasn't comfortable taking a backflip Styles Clash off the top rope, but the dude did it anyway, ended up concussing Sydal and breaking a few bones. And for what? To pop a few people and get paid a few hundered dollars? Ridiculous.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 25, 2014 16:15:37 GMT -5
Yeah, AJ definitely proving Luke Hawx's point about him. I guarantee that if this was someone else and not AJ Styles injuring wrestlers on a semi regular basis, people would be calling for that person's head.
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Dec 25, 2014 16:22:46 GMT -5
Yeah, AJ definitely proving Luke Hawx's point about him. I guarantee that if this was someone else and not AJ Styles injuring wrestlers on a semi regular basis, people would be calling for that person's head. What did Luke Hawx say about AJ?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 25, 2014 16:25:24 GMT -5
Kinda pointless to bring up Owen and Austin, since Owen's, ya know, dead.
Now if Zombie Owen was putting out an Owen 3:16 shirt NOW, I'd have a few questions. I don't think the shirt would make the top five though.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 25, 2014 16:31:00 GMT -5
Yeah, AJ definitely proving Luke Hawx's point about him. I guarantee that if this was someone else and not AJ Styles injuring wrestlers on a semi regular basis, people would be calling for that person's head. What did Luke Hawx say about AJ? Called him an arrogant, pampered asshole who had people coddled and shelter him.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 25, 2014 16:38:30 GMT -5
Kinda pointless to bring up Owen and Austin, since Owen's, ya know, dead. Now if Zombie Owen was putting out an Owen 3:16 shirt NOW, I'd have a few questions. I don't think the shirt would make the top five though. Plus considering how Austin still is kinda pissed at Owen for not apologizing for breaking his neck, I don't think it works as a defense. I hope AJ's sake that this doesn't upset New Japan because they like Kojima and Yoshi. His gaijin butt is going to get replaced by Kenny Omega is it does.
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Post by Mondai Rogue on Dec 25, 2014 17:21:42 GMT -5
Kinda pointless to bring up Owen and Austin, since Owen's, ya know, dead. Now if Zombie Owen was putting out an Owen 3:16 shirt NOW, I'd have a few questions. I don't think the shirt would make the top five though. Plus considering how Austin still is kinda pissed at Owen for not apologizing for breaking his neck, I don't think it works as a defense. I hope AJ's sake that this doesn't upset New Japan because they like Kojima and Yoshi. His gaijin butt is going to get replaced by Kenny Omega is it does. You say that last part as if it is a bad thing. Omega > Styles all day, everyday.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 25, 2014 20:33:33 GMT -5
Kinda pointless to bring up Owen and Austin, since Owen's, ya know, dead. Now if Zombie Owen was putting out an Owen 3:16 shirt NOW, I'd have a few questions. I don't think the shirt would make the top five though. Also I don't remember them actually selling the Owen shirts...
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