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Post by Boo! on Jan 1, 2015 12:46:07 GMT -5
It depends on the guy. Too much too soon is as problematic as waiting too long. I'd rather set a time scale of between Summerslam 2015 - Wrestlemania 32 for Ambrose to be given the strap. Rollins is a heel so that's in someways easier.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jan 1, 2015 12:46:27 GMT -5
Since Rollins is pretty much the only active main event heel and regularly tv & house show foe of Cena, his time to be WWE world champion is coming sooner rather than later. Ambrose probably got another year or so before winning that.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jan 1, 2015 12:53:37 GMT -5
Ambrose and Rollins are like the two most over guys on the roster. If they aren't ready, nobody who's name isn't Daniel Bryan is, haha.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Jan 1, 2015 12:57:18 GMT -5
Rollins is ready in my mind, Ambrose isn't. It doesn't matter how fast you push someone as long as they are ready. Ambrose looked in about October like he was ready but the way the Rollins feud ended and the way the subsequent Wyatt feud has died a thousand deaths has hurt him a lot. He's less over now than he has been at any point since The Shield split up. Rollins meanwhile seems to go from strength-to-strength which is why I think he should walk out of 'Mania with the strap. Ambrose certainly has the talent to eventually be ready though, he just needs to be better booked.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jan 1, 2015 13:00:30 GMT -5
No.
Hogan was given the title two years after debuting.
Austin was given the title two years after debuting.
Rock was given the title two years after debuting.
There seems to be a short, precise window of time for people to have a chance at reaching the highest level possible. So since they've gone past the alotted time I would just slap the title on them and aim for the next guy I could hit a home-run with. This is genuinely what I would do.
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Post by Boo! on Jan 1, 2015 13:09:08 GMT -5
No. Hogan was given the title two years after debuting. Austin was given the title two years after debuting. Rock was given the title two years after debuting. There seems to be a short, precise window of time for people to have a chance at reaching the highest level possible. So since they've gone past the alotted time I would just slap the title on them and aim for the next guy I could hit a home-run with. This is genuinely what I would do. Hogan was given the title a month after debuting back in the territory. |
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 1, 2015 13:12:08 GMT -5
Yep.
Seeing how everyone only want Bryan in the main event and title picture.
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Post by BigWill on Jan 1, 2015 13:17:22 GMT -5
Rollins already has MITB, so I'd be surprised if he didn't win the title within the year. Ambrose I could see go either way, but I wouldn't complain if he were to win it this year either.
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Post by Boo! on Jan 1, 2015 13:20:39 GMT -5
Ugh. If ever this gimmick needs to die it's now. He's over because of his promos, storylines and inring talent not because he's holdng a damn plastic briefcase than half the audience probably don't even know what it is. That battered up old thing really is an unwanted millstone. Kill it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2015 13:25:06 GMT -5
Well Lesnar is leaving soon and heels are going to have the world title sometimes.
I don't know what other heel it would be besides Rollins.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 1, 2015 13:28:11 GMT -5
It must be a difficult balance between making a guy champion too early and too late. WWE has been guilty of both.
I very strongly believe Daniel Bryan should be their priority right now and if other people's reigns (pun intended) have to be delayed, so be it. Ambrose, Rollins (and Reigns) are young enough and early enough into their careers that another year won't make a difference if they're kept strong and even in the title scene until then.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 1, 2015 13:30:32 GMT -5
Ambrose doesn't need it right now. You can build up to a title storyline at somepoint in the future. Rollins probably around September or before MITB when he cashes in. He's already been treated as the regular top heel so why not?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jan 1, 2015 13:31:32 GMT -5
Yep. Seeing how everyone only want Bryan in the main event and title picture. We want Daniel Bryan to have his proper well deserved run with the title so that the fans aren't constantly shitting on everyone else's title reigns or chanting His name over everyone's matches. |
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jan 1, 2015 13:51:29 GMT -5
Hogan was given the title a month after debuting back in the territory. That's a return. If you include his heel run he spent just under two years in the WWF before getting the belt. These are legends and icons. What do they have to do with Ambrose and Rollins? No offense to either man of course but come on now. Here's one more their speed and even that is up for debate... Triple H was given the title four years after debuting. One of the reasons they are legends and icons is because they were given the belt so soon. Since both Ambrose and Rollins have gone past two years without winning the belt it doesn't really matter if they become champion. HHH is one my favourite wrestlers of all time but in the long run, because they didnt put the belt on him soon enough he was really only ever a warm body to throw against one of the people who actually mattered like Rock or Austin. Which is the same fate that's gonna befall Ambrose and Rollins. For example, Reigns should have been the one to beat Cena for the title. Now that he's gone past the two year window, if I was Vince I would begin looking for my new pet project. |
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Post by Boo! on Jan 1, 2015 13:56:25 GMT -5
Hogan was given the title a month after debuting back in the territory. That's a return. If you include his heel run he spent just under two years in the WWF before getting the belt. He wasn't really the same guy though. Hogan was 'new' for all intents and purposes when he came in during December of 83. There was also a near 3-year gap between the heel run ending and the face run beginning |
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Post by lildude8218 on Jan 1, 2015 13:57:47 GMT -5
you know, that Junkyard Dog guy is getting a ton of pops, maybe we should have Hogan drop the belt to him
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Post by Boo! on Jan 1, 2015 14:01:25 GMT -5
you know, that Junkyard Dog guy is getting a ton of pops, maybe we should have Hogan drop the belt to him If only there was a Hogan around today. It's a balancing act between striking whilst the iron is hot and pre-empting someone's readiness. I don't think there's a set time, if you're over and ready you're over and ready. Giving someone the title too soon could ruin a potential career as could putting it off too long. It's not a science and will be different for everyone. I don't think Ambrose is ready yet I think he needs to earn a connection with the audience for a few months/a year first. |
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Post by walterharrow on Jan 1, 2015 14:02:38 GMT -5
Ambrose and Rollins have main evented several PPVs and episodes of RAW and have done a great job so surely WWE have got to be pleased with them and must have more faith in them than they do in Reigns. I know Reigns was injured but Ambrose and Rollins have proven themselves in my opinion so if Reigns is being considred for champion then they should be too)
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Jan 1, 2015 14:12:00 GMT -5
That's a return. If you include his heel run he spent just under two years in the WWF before getting the belt. He wasn't really the same guy though. Hogan was 'new' for all intents and purposes when he came in during December of 83. There was also a near 3-year gap between the heel run ending and the face run beginning He was the exact same guy. The first thing Backlund said about him was "He's changed his ways." and "He's not gonna have Blassie around anymore.". They didn't pretend he was a barnd new guy, it was just a face turn. Since the three year gap consisted of him being completely inaccessible for WWF audiences I don't really see how it counts. |
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Jan 1, 2015 14:12:56 GMT -5
So lemme see if I get this straight...
Ambrose, Rollins, Reigns, Rusev, etc all need to wait a couple years until they win the world title.
However we ALSO don't want the status quo (Cena, Orton, etc) in the main event scene. Okay. Cool.
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