Was the whole Bryan debacle an elaborate work?

[radiantsilvergun]

I remember shortly after WM30 people were saying how Bryans whole rise to the top (2013-2014) was some kind of wonky REALITY ERA booking experiment the whole damn time. Big Show, Big Dave, Wyatt fued, Summerslam 2013 etc. was all orchestrated to get to the end result. Summerslam 2013 to set it up. Big Dave was brought in to give him the rub. Iron Clad Show and Wyatt fued to get us talking. All they needed was the crowd to revolt and they would have their much needed lab experiment monster of overness. This all worked out according to plan (as the theory says).


It seems like everyone disregarded this idea though. Could it just be legitimate Maggle, B+, best for business, senile Vince shenigans? Or some slow burn booking?

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

If it was a work it was stupid, unnecessary. Bryan was already the most over guy on the roster. All they did was waste time that he could've already had on top. And if he ended up having to retire because of his injuries, all of that would've been for nothing.

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Nah it wasn't.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

There is absolutely no way anyone could have counted on all of Big Show's PPV main event bombing, the Wyatt angle collapsing, and Batista getting rejected by the Royal Rumble audience that far ahead of time.

Was Batista even close to being signed when Big Show was main eventing Survivor Series?

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

I'm 99% certain that it wasn't. Just too many lucky guesses and long shots for it to have been one.

[Capt Lunatic]

I don't think any of if was a work. Just WWE booking.

I do however feel DB's injury was greatly exaggerated. He got messed up to be sure, but this is a guy who knows how to work his fans.

However if he gets taken out before the Rumble then I'm totally wrong.

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There's no absolute way that they'd ruin Batista's push in favor of Bryan given where Batista was at that time. No. Absolute. Way. Vince loves money too much. He wouldn't hesitate to put the title on a face Batista if Batista would have had the belt on his shoulder during the GotG promotion.

There's no way they'd ruin Big Dave like that.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

I once tried to stand up on my bicycle and let go of the handle bars. I didn't want to glide gracefully, no, no, I wanted to smack my head off the pavement. That's exactly how I pictured that going.

[Nic Nemeth]

Work or not, I'm glad where it ended with Bryan beating three of the WWE's top heels in the same night at WMXXX.

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No way it could have been intentional. That'd have required them to know months in advance that the crowd wouldn't get behind Big Show, would go from cheering Batista on his return to booing him week after week all over the country, that Punk would walk out to free up Triple H to do it the way they did and properly pay off that part of the story, and that the crowd would rejected the Bray Wyatt storyline, and it would've required them to be willing to throw multiple top stars - Batista, Cena, Orton, Mysterio, and Big Show offhand - to the dogs just to build up Bryan. They just cluelessly stumbled into something that turned out great.

[berlynwright]

I'd rather have him held the title until Mania this year than him getting yet another underdog ovecoming the odds push again.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 5, 2015 3:33:55 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

No way it could have been intentional. That'd have required them to know months in advance that the crowd wouldn't get behind Big Show, would go from cheering Batista on his return to booing him week after week all over the country, that Punk would walk out to free up Triple H to do it the way they did and properly pay off that part of the story, and that the crowd would rejected the Bray Wyatt storyline, and it would've required them to be willing to throw multiple top stars - Batista, Cena, Orton, Mysterio, and Big Show offhand - to the dogs just to build up Bryan. They just cluelessly stumbled into something that turned out great.

The last sentence isn't correct. They were forced into doing something great because WrestleMania was approaching and no matter how stupid they are, they won't let a crowd revolt at Mania. This happens between any other PPVs that aren't leading into Mania, none of it happens and they go on with their shitty plan.

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Jan 5, 2015 3:39:10 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

Jan 5, 2015 3:33:55 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

No way it could have been intentional. That'd have required them to know months in advance that the crowd wouldn't get behind Big Show, would go from cheering Batista on his return to booing him week after week all over the country, that Punk would walk out to free up Triple H to do it the way they did and properly pay off that part of the story, and that the crowd would rejected the Bray Wyatt storyline, and it would've required them to be willing to throw multiple top stars - Batista, Cena, Orton, Mysterio, and Big Show offhand - to the dogs just to build up Bryan. They just cluelessly stumbled into something that turned out great.

The last sentence isn't correct. They were forced into doing something great because WrestleMania was approaching and no matter how stupid they are, they won't let a crowd revolt at Mania. This happens between any other PPVs that aren't leading into Mania, none of it happens and they go on with their shitty plan.

What I mean is that the weird but great way they did it of bringing the meta story into the actual one and basically doing the same arc on-screen as had been happening offscreen for months wasn't something intended, they just wrote themselves into a corner and accidentally blundered into giving themselves the perfect way to get out of it.

[Jonathan Michaels]

I have to think at least PART of it was a work.

I have to imagine that, at the least, Bryan was pegged to win the title at WM30 no later than one week after the Rumble, if not sooner.

And I give Hunter credit, when it came to putting Bryan over, he did a hell of a job, both in the immediate build up, and the event itself.

[Cranjis McBasketball]

Jan 5, 2015 3:52:02 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Jan 5, 2015 3:39:10 GMT -5 Cranjis McBasketball said:

The last sentence isn't correct. They were forced into doing something great because WrestleMania was approaching and no matter how stupid they are, they won't let a crowd revolt at Mania. This happens between any other PPVs that aren't leading into Mania, none of it happens and they go on with their shitty plan.

What I mean is that the weird but great way they did it of bringing the meta story into the actual one and basically doing the same arc on-screen as had been happening offscreen for months wasn't something intended, they just wrote themselves into a corner and accidentally blundered into giving themselves the perfect way to get out of it.

I knew what you meant, I just think that sentence gave them too much credit for what happened. The fans made it happen.

[MAD TITAN]

Wouldn't doubt it.

Probably for the Total Divas crap the extra neck story got thrown in there.

The timing of all of this is just a little too perfect.

[Hit Girl]

Nope

None of it

[Professor Chaos]

Wouldn't shock me if the E! Total Divas writers wanted him to win at WrestleMania since he is on the show. They know what the hell they're doing a lot more than the WWE Writers.

[JTH]

Are you saying WWE Creative is smart and knows what they're doing?

I can assure you...they're not & they don't.

[EvenBaldobombHasAJob]

no. I refuse to give them that much credit.