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Post by bmfjules on Jan 28, 2015 18:59:49 GMT -5
Not an attempt to advertise for either site in particular here just wondering who everyone reads/listens to for their news fix mainly. Personally been more of an Observer guy for years, but lately I will say while I still prefer Dave's newsletters I'm starting to really like Keller's audio updates more and more.
Although one thing that bugs me with both of them in interviews is that they will spend five minutes qualifying their question to the point that when they wrap it up the person on the other end has forgotten what the hell they were even talking about to begin with.
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Post by Jimichiro Likes Erick Rowan on Jan 29, 2015 0:45:43 GMT -5
You can't really go wrong with either, IMO. I've been a Torch subscriber since 2012 and I've really enjoyed it.
When I decided to subscribe to a sheet and had to pick between the Torch and the Observer, I picked the Torch becauseits exclusive to wrestling whereas the Observer is 50-50 wrestling and MMA, and I don't follow MMA at all.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 29, 2015 1:02:57 GMT -5
Prefer PWInsider personally but like more of what I have heard out of the guy from the Torch over Meltzer in various outside project I've heard them do.
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Post by metylerca on Jan 29, 2015 1:19:02 GMT -5
Have had Observer since 2012 and love it. I've heard a few PWInsider free radio shows and they're good. I think it's a matter of what you're looking for. I don't mind the MMA additions, and I love Lance Storm and Todd Martin audio shows in addition to Meltzer's Meltzerisms. Andrew and Steveweiser could both probably give you a more definitive explanation of why to go Observer or otherwise.
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Post by celticjobber on Jan 29, 2015 1:50:55 GMT -5
I prefer Observer, but I've been listening to their shows since the eYada era around 1999.
And I only started listening to PWTorch audio within the last couple of years. But the only shows I like are some of the Torchtalk interviews and the Bruce Mitchell weekend updates.
But I rarely listen because the audio quality on PWTorch podcasts is pretty bad and usually gives me a headache. Especially on the Bruce Mitchell weekend shows.
Bryan Alvarez can be annoying, but one thing I like is that he insists on high quality audio for most of the F4W/Observer shows.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Jan 29, 2015 1:57:54 GMT -5
Meltzer is great, and still the guy I trust the most when it comes to wrestling news stories. His weekly newsletter is always a great read and I love the audio provided by Bryan and Dave and Vinny - Especially since the quality of the audio equipment has improved over the years.
I've subscribed to PWTorch a few times and I enjoy it for awhile, but I soon grow tired of the poor-quality of the audio and constant Steve Austin interviews. Wade himself is a fine host and I really like the newsletter they do, but since I already subscribe to The Observer/F4W I really don't have a need for both.
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Post by kidglov3s on Jan 29, 2015 2:18:05 GMT -5
I think both camps have their strengths. I might prefer Dave over Wade, but Bruce Mitchell's great.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 29, 2015 9:13:16 GMT -5
Dave doesn't give away a lot despite what the news sites say.. and he's very knowledgeable of classic wrestlig / Japan stuff. He's also very respectful to his guests
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 29, 2015 10:49:10 GMT -5
Subscribe to Observer/FFW. Like Wade Keller's stuff as well. He's pretty active on social media and I've had some decent twitter interactions with him. I'd favor The Empire~ slightly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 14:34:24 GMT -5
I subscribe to the Observer, I never subscribed to the Torch so I can't really compare the two but I like the contrast between Meltzer's fairly objective and level-headed criticism to Alvarez's over the top take on everything. Dave Meltzer is just a living breathing encyclopedia and he always has a take on what's going on that makes me think, given he has a lot of anecdotal history to compliment whatever analysis he's making.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 29, 2015 16:49:36 GMT -5
Prefer Meltzer, but have nothing but respect for Wade and the PWTorch.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 29, 2015 16:57:58 GMT -5
I subscribe to the Observer, I never subscribed to the Torch so I can't really compare the two but I like the contrast between Meltzer's fairly objective and level-headed criticism to Alvarez's over the top take on everything. Dave Meltzer is just a living breathing encyclopedia and he always has a take on what's going on that makes me think, given he has a lot of anecdotal history to compliment whatever analysis he's making. Bryan's over the top? That's preposterous! |
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Post by bmfjules on Jan 29, 2015 17:06:48 GMT -5
I subscribe to the Observer, I never subscribed to the Torch so I can't really compare the two but I like the contrast between Meltzer's fairly objective and level-headed criticism to Alvarez's over the top take on everything. Dave Meltzer is just a living breathing encyclopedia and he always has a take on what's going on that makes me think, given he has a lot of anecdotal history to compliment whatever analysis he's making. Bryan's over the top? That's preposterous! Alvarez's voice is like if you combined Alvin and the Chipmunks with Daffy Duck... Although after YEARS of listening to him I find that I sometimes type like he talks with RANDOM LOUD OUTBURSTS to force home my point instead of rational argument. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 29, 2015 17:12:50 GMT -5
Bryan's over the top? That's preposterous! Alvarez's voice is like if you combined Alvin and the Chipmunks with Daffy Duck... Although after YEARS of listening to him I find that I sometimes type like he talks with RANDOM LOUD OUTBURSTS to force home my point instead of rational argument. I don't mind Bryan's voice. Or his random loudness. "IT SUCKED!" |
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 29, 2015 22:57:23 GMT -5
Read that in his "MINUS FIVE STARS" voice. |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 29, 2015 23:31:36 GMT -5
Read that in his "MINUS FIVE STARS" voice. Hold on...let me find this......talk to the people Vinny (Vinny starts to talk)...The Uso's vs Miz and Mizdow again. They had there usual match *Bryan* WHY THE f*** CAN'T I FIND IT!!!-ackward pause. |
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Post by Giul T. on Jan 29, 2015 23:50:06 GMT -5
I don't subscribe to either, but I do like reading the Torch and their affliates reports in addition to reading Uproxx of the WWE scene
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Post by Ganon83 on Jan 30, 2015 0:18:09 GMT -5
You don't see people being hit with the Keller Driver
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Post by percymania on Jan 30, 2015 22:43:57 GMT -5
I'm a Torch guy.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Jan 31, 2015 4:10:04 GMT -5
I don't read/listen to either. Despite reading copy and paste snippets that people post on here and one or two other wrestling sites I don't even know which of the two names mentioned above that Wade or Dave work for.
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