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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 4, 2015 22:51:21 GMT -5
Ummm what about Canelo. Everybody was so sure the young lion was going to be too much for Mayweather. Canelo was demolishing people while looking excellent and Floyd made him look human. Canelo may not have been a "big" name to the people who aren't regular boxing fans but the kid has a fight next week people should def check out. Not only did he make Canelo look human, he pitched a shut-out against him(Unless you're CJ Ross) Thou shall not mention corrupt/biased judge. She retired after that fight after that fight for a reason(Atrocious card she turned in)
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Post by LastCall on May 4, 2015 23:40:44 GMT -5
I don't mind Floyd's style all that much. Too many former boxers are in shit health because the term "defense" never entered their vocabulary. Hell, show me the former boxer that can even spell the word defense correctly. I don't think Mayweahter can spell that word correctly either.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 5, 2015 4:58:48 GMT -5
Why are you spending $100 on something you clearly don't know anything about? ...How else do you get into something? This fight was an event. I know nothing about boxing, but I knew Mayweather from wrestling and knowing his record, and Manny's, the fight caught my imagination. You get into something you know nothing about by... watching it.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 5, 2015 5:38:44 GMT -5
Why are you spending $100 on something you clearly don't know anything about? ...How else do you get into something? This fight was an event. I know nothing about boxing, but I knew Mayweather from wrestling and knowing his record, and Manny's, the fight caught my imagination. You get into something you know nothing about by... watching it. Problem with boxing is that this fight should have happened 5+ years ago. As for a a boxing fight goes it was a typical Mayweather fight, it isn't pretty and usually lacking excitement but it is good boxing from a technical standpoint. Sadly, many people will look at that fight as a representation of the best the sport has to offer when in reality there is much better boxing to be found elsewhere. Having watched it I thought it was a pretty boring fight and definitely not one I will ever watch again. Even for a Mayweather fight I thought it was lacking.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 5, 2015 5:43:20 GMT -5
...How else do you get into something? This fight was an event. I know nothing about boxing, but I knew Mayweather from wrestling and knowing his record, and Manny's, the fight caught my imagination. You get into something you know nothing about by... watching it. Problem with boxing is that this fight should have happened 5+ years ago. As for a a boxing fight goes it was a typical Mayweather fight, it isn't pretty and usually lacking excitement but it is good boxing from a technical standpoint. Sadly, many people will look at that fight as a representation of the best the sport has to offer when in reality there is much better boxing to be found elsewhere. Having watched it I thought it was a pretty boring fight and definitely not one I will ever watch again. Even for a Mayweather fight I thought it was lacking. I wasn't discussing the fight's quality, though, my response was to do with the 'why watch something you know nothing about?'
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 5, 2015 6:42:39 GMT -5
Problem with boxing is that this fight should have happened 5+ years ago. As for a a boxing fight goes it was a typical Mayweather fight, it isn't pretty and usually lacking excitement but it is good boxing from a technical standpoint. Sadly, many people will look at that fight as a representation of the best the sport has to offer when in reality there is much better boxing to be found elsewhere. Having watched it I thought it was a pretty boring fight and definitely not one I will ever watch again. Even for a Mayweather fight I thought it was lacking. I wasn't discussing the fight's quality, though, my response was to do with the 'why watch something you know nothing about?' I was responding to you on that end. I understand wanting to get into boxing and I know a decent amount of people who, like you, ordered this event to try and get into boxing and were severely disappointed. I blame the people who run boxing for that. This was being trumped as a can't miss fight. If you were new to boxing this was being marketed as a fight to watch and with the hype you can't blame people for expecting a classic. I don't blame people who used this fight to try and get into boxing for the same reason I don't blame people who try and use Wrestlemania to get into wrestling, they are the most hyped events. I was simply responding the reasns why I think that fight did a poor job introducing people to the sport. In the end boxing took another hit as a lot of people had a horrible first experience due to that fight and I can't blame them.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 5, 2015 6:51:13 GMT -5
I wasn't discussing the fight's quality, though, my response was to do with the 'why watch something you know nothing about?' I was responding to you on that end. I understand wanting to get into boxing and I know a decent amount of people who, like you, ordered this event to try and get into boxing and were severely disappointed. I blame the people who run boxing for that. This was being trumped as a can't miss fight. If you were new to boxing this was being marketed as a fight to watch and with the hype you can't blame people for expecting a classic. I don't blame people who used this fight to try and get into boxing for the same reason I don't blame people who try and use Wrestlemania to get into wrestling, they are the most hyped events. I was simply responding the reasns why I think that fight did a poor job introducing people to the sport. In the end boxing took another hit as a lot of people had a horrible first experience due to that fight and I can't blame them. Ah, I see. Well, yeah, but that Vince does the same thing every year. 'Look at our amazing show with 40 guys who will be gone tomorrow night!'
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 10:38:12 GMT -5
So it turns out Pacquiao really was hurt.
As if Mayweather wanted any more stains on his credibility.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on May 5, 2015 12:38:39 GMT -5
So it turns out Pacquiao really was hurt. As if Mayweather wanted any more stains on his credibility. If I'm Mayweather and I find out Pacquiao was hurt, what I'm really thinking is just the Prime Time Players dance playing in my head over and over again as I try to schedule a rematch.
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Post by Brian Suntan on May 5, 2015 14:44:04 GMT -5
Why are you spending $100 on something you clearly don't know anything about? ...How else do you get into something? This fight was an event. I know nothing about boxing, but I knew Mayweather from wrestling and knowing his record, and Manny's, the fight caught my imagination. You get into something you know nothing about by... watching it. That's fine, but my point was more to do with people who bought it and then complained afterwards. Either take a punt and accept you might not like it, or at least take five minutes to Google what it is you're buying. That's just common sense. What I will say, is that the undercard was piss poor and a huge missed opportunity for the sport. Mayweather was always likely to be in a relatively uneventful fight, but with the money they were making they could've stacked the undercard to please the people who wanted to see a slugfest.
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Post by Brian Suntan on May 5, 2015 14:46:02 GMT -5
So it turns out Pacquiao really was hurt. As if Mayweather wanted any more stains on his credibility. You know anti-Mayweather feeling has reached self parody levels when Manny duping everyone by not disclosing an injury is an apparent blow to Floyd's credibility.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 5, 2015 16:35:57 GMT -5
So it turns out Pacquiao really was hurt. As if Mayweather wanted any more stains on his credibility. You know anti-Mayweather feeling has reached self parody levels when Manny duping everyone by not disclosing an injury is an apparent blow to Floyd's credibility. You know what's funny Pacman doesn't disclose the injury and yet somehow Floyd is still getting blamed and ridiculed for this. Any other fighter would be taken to ask about how you stole money fighting injured, he was never in their to win but only for the money which I have no problem with. People(pacman fans and mayweather detractors) will shout for a rematch but what happens when Pacman loses again and the excuse is he's coming off shoulder surgery. A lot of people in pacquiao camp and the commission should be brought to task about this. They couldn't detect a bummy shoulder heading into that fight but I believe he could of walked out their crippled and people would of turned a blind eye because the money was to great to sit back and tell him he can't fight.
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on May 5, 2015 19:35:00 GMT -5
Over the past few days I can't help but chuckle at all these stupid sports news articles on my facebook dashboard trying to discredit Mayweather's victory or trying to clam that Pacquiao was robbed. Yeah I wanted Pacquiao to win as Mayweather is a massive dick but you don't win a fight by throwing punches that don't land so people need to f***ing get over that Floyd won fair and square.
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Post by JTH on May 5, 2015 19:39:00 GMT -5
so was it really that boring? Rusev thought it was boring and let's us know his match with Cena won't be: Yet will be 10x as predictable...
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Post by andrew8798 on May 5, 2015 21:15:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 22:04:29 GMT -5
You know anti-Mayweather feeling has reached self parody levels when Manny duping everyone by not disclosing an injury is an apparent blow to Floyd's credibility. You know what's funny Pacman doesn't disclose the injury and yet somehow Floyd is still getting blamed and ridiculed for this. Any other fighter would be taken to ask about how you stole money fighting injured, he was never in their to win but only for the money which I have no problem with. People(pacman fans and mayweather detractors) will shout for a rematch but what happens when Pacman loses again and the excuse is he's coming off shoulder surgery. A lot of people in pacquiao camp and the commission should be brought to task about this. They couldn't detect a bummy shoulder heading into that fight but I believe he could of walked out their crippled and people would of turned a blind eye because the money was to great to sit back and tell him he can't fight. I'm sure he wanted the payday, but a big part of him fighting injured is probably him not wanting to look like a coward. Saying "Ow, I have a bad shoulder, I can't fight!" would've burned his credibility as a fighter. People would've doubted him for sure. Heck, I doubted him before it was reported that he was having surgery to repair the injury. For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of either of these guys. I think they're both over-the-hill and have managed to stay relevant by fighting in an absolutely wretched weight class. Pacquiao employs little to no strategy and refuses to dictate the pace of the fight despite maintaining some of his power, and then likes to play hapless victim with the media when things don't work out. Mayweather picks his fights to an absurd degree and his physical gifts are rapidly deteriorating.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 6, 2015 2:14:43 GMT -5
You know what's funny Pacman doesn't disclose the injury and yet somehow Floyd is still getting blamed and ridiculed for this. Any other fighter would be taken to ask about how you stole money fighting injured, he was never in their to win but only for the money which I have no problem with. People(pacman fans and mayweather detractors) will shout for a rematch but what happens when Pacman loses again and the excuse is he's coming off shoulder surgery. A lot of people in pacquiao camp and the commission should be brought to task about this. They couldn't detect a bummy shoulder heading into that fight but I believe he could of walked out their crippled and people would of turned a blind eye because the money was to great to sit back and tell him he can't fight. I'm sure he wanted the payday, but a big part of him fighting injured is probably him not wanting to look like a coward. Saying "Ow, I have a bad shoulder, I can't fight!" would've burned his credibility as a fighter. People would've doubted him for sure. Heck, I doubted him before it was reported that he was having surgery to repair the injury. For what it's worth, I'm not a fan of either of these guys. I think they're both over-the-hill and have managed to stay relevant by fighting in an absolutely wretched weight class. Pacquiao employs little to no strategy and refuses to dictate the pace of the fight despite maintaining some of his power, and then likes to play hapless victim with the media when things don't work out. Mayweather picks his fights to an absurd degree and his physical gifts are rapidly deteriorating. Not that Pacman wanted the payday but he needed the payday. It's been documented his financial troubles and this got him out of his tax trouble and he doesn't have to fight another day in his life as long he doesn't blow over 100 million dollars. I kind of disagree on their would of been backlash on Pacquiao because his fans would of turned it on Mayweather. I think this wouldn't of been as much of a big deal if he won but as it stands people aren't paying for a rematch. Pacman needs to come back and fight in his hometown against some scrub to get the KO and retire a rich and happy man.
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Post by efarns on May 7, 2015 14:14:33 GMT -5
This great fight exposed just about every reason boxing deserves its continued decline.
1. It can't deliver the events people want to see. Promoters and fighters dodge and duck just as much in making the fight as they do in the ring. 2. When the event is put together, there's no way to guarantee its entertainment value. The play clocks in The NFL and NBA force the action. Lack of a clock means baseball is a competition down to the very last pitch. If most of the people who bought your event are unsatisfied, then you have a problem. 3. The definition of who won and who lost is up for endless debate. The last Super Bowl was close, but there's no debate about who won or lost. The terms for victory are absolute and clearly defined.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 7, 2015 18:58:23 GMT -5
MayPac sales so far without cable: DirecTV 1.15 million. Dish 500k, AT&T uVerse & Verizon Fios, combined 600k Cable usually 60-65% of total
projects to about 5 million buys.
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Post by andrew8798 on May 7, 2015 20:06:48 GMT -5
Mayweather now says no to rematch with Pacquiao, calls him a 'coward'
“Did I text [ESPN’s] Stephen A. Smith and say I will fight him again?” Mayweather told Gray. “Yeah, but I change my mind. At this particular time, no, because he’s a sore loser and he’s a coward. … If you lost, accept the loss and say, ‘Mayweather, you were the better fighter.’ ”
At the heart of Mayweather’s discontent with Pacquiao is his right shoulder injury, which was reported by Yahoo Sports immediately after the megafight at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas. Pacquiao talked about the injury in the post-fight news conference and said it limited him in the bout but that he didn’t want to use it as a reason for the loss.
“Excuses, excuses, excuses,” Mayweather said. “I’m not going to buy into the [expletive] and I don’t want the public to buy into the [expletive]. He lost. He knows he lost. I lost a lot of respect for him after all of this.”
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