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Post by Tyrannosaurus Sex on Mar 7, 2015 6:46:05 GMT -5
This is a company where the most over guys have been hypocrites, racist/intolerant to other countries, attacked fellow faces, beaten up referees, and generally many worse things, but AJ is just worse than all of them put together because of what, her figure? Her husband? Her outspoken views? Her freaking voice according to some people? Dean Ambrose has to wear a shirt for his matches because he probably has a terrible body shape, he screeches his words and steals the IC title, plus he's dating Renee Young and has shat on his own promos on a podcast. He's just the worst face in the company right now! he should be released and no one would miss him, right guys? ...Right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 8:44:40 GMT -5
It's strange to me that this thread has wavered from discussing the merits of AJ's on-screen character to mocking her body and, more perplexing yet, wondering how Punk could possibly be attracted to her. I now clearly understand what @tdj was trying to do with his hairline posts. Don't even get me started on how ugly and stubby AJ's toenails are.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Mar 7, 2015 8:58:24 GMT -5
Dating back to NXT 3, I've never enjoyed her presence. Match, promo, whatever, nothing's ever captured my attention from her. Her acting, her wrestling, it's all always come across as a touch too disingenuous and phony for my taste. She always came across like a mediocre talent that people latched onto for one reason or another. Because she had a sob story, because she was a nerd, because she didn't look like the stereotypical WWE female wrestler, because she was quirky with Kaitlyn, because she's "craaaaAAAAAAaaaaaAAAAAzzzzzzzy", because she's a shooting, brother and so on.
Despite some of her fans, I have nothing against them or her. They can enjoy who they like, I can enjoy who I like. Though I do question the point of AJ in modern WWE. When I feel like every aspect of her appeal as a performer and as a character is done by another diva in some form or another and, in my opinion, better than she ever did it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 7, 2015 9:14:01 GMT -5
bolted on tits needs to be a thing. that's brilliant. like, with Frankenstein bolts. It's Frankenstein's Monster goddammit, Frankenstein's Monster. To be fair, if Victor fashioned the bolts in his laboratory, which you gotta figure he did, they were technically 'Frankenstein' bolts by virtue of him creating em. It's not like he went out to Ace hardware and told em he needed neck bolts to use in a reanimated hodgepodge of corpses. Plus, if he went to Ace, he runs the risk of running into John Madden.
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Post by Sparkybob on Mar 7, 2015 9:22:09 GMT -5
All great points, especially on her being shoved down all of our throats in 2012. Another problem, at least with me, is the fact that she just sort of came back as a face after pretty much burying the entire Divas division. No real retribution, never really got hers, so to speak. I mean, for all of the shit Triple H gets for the Reign of Terror (all of it deserved), he took some real Ls to Chris Benoit and Batista. Triple H also proceeded to pretty much never lose to Benoit clean after Mania, with Eugene always helping Benoit out in some way. AJ might have won all of her PPV matches during her "reign of terror," but she was made to look like absolute shit on Raw and Smackdown. Pretending she dominated the division is a HUGE exaggeration. Yea I actually did some research and in 2013, she had a losing record on TV! and she had a worse winning % than I believe Nattie,Naomi and 1 or both Bellas. For an IC or U.S champ to lose so much on TV is bad booking, for AJ it's a reign of terror.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 7, 2015 9:24:48 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I'm not going through seven pages to see if this was already mentioned. I'll just give my opinion that she's pretty crap. The problem is she doesn't seem to know what she wants to be anymore. She tries to put herself over as this nerd, tomboy underdog that the fans should be cheering for while at the same time imitating her husbands promo style which makes her sound like a bigger Alpha Bitch then either of the Bella's ever have. On top of that she's also still trying to throw in aspects of her crazy gimmick which doesn't mesh with anything else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2015 9:40:32 GMT -5
One serious comment that I do want to make is something I think I've seen mentioned on here before...
Her whole 'wow if I can be successful as a WWE diva, anyone can' thing is BS; she's thin, fit, and pretty. It's not very shocking that she became successful.
I'm more glad to see slightly not-as-pretty (but not ugly, don't get me wrong, I'd totally take them on a nice date/10) women like Charlotte and Bayley achieve success under the WWE (NXT) banner.
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Post by Perd on Mar 7, 2015 9:45:06 GMT -5
May I ask where everyone's hearing these Punk like promos? I watch WWE every week and can't remember AJ (or any other Diva) getting enough mic time to cut what I'd consider a Punk like promo. The only ones I could recall are the pipe bombshell and the sexually transmitted line. I'm not saying that they don't exist, or that if she did get lots of mic time she wouldn't try to act like Punk, but I honestly don't remember all these promos she's cut.
And back to the subject of the thread. Her last run sucked and her character wasn't ver likable. There's really no sugar coatong it. Maybe this one will be better.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Mar 7, 2015 9:49:16 GMT -5
One serious comment that I do want to make is something I think I've seen mentioned on here before... Her whole 'wow if I can be successful as a WWE diva, anyone can' thing is BS; she's thin, fit, and pretty. It's not very shocking that she became successful. I'm more glad to see slightly not-as-pretty (but not ugly, don't get me wrong, I'd totally take them on a nice date/10) women like Charlotte and Bayley achieve success under the WWE (NXT) banner. She's not WWE-pretty though. As in, fake from head to toe.
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Post by Abdullah on Mar 7, 2015 9:53:38 GMT -5
May I ask where everyone's hearing these Punk like promos? I watch WWE every week and can't remember AJ (or any other Diva) getting enough mic time to cut what I'd consider a Punk like promo. The only ones I could recall are the pipe bombshell and the sexually transmitted line. I'm not saying that they don't exist, or that if she did get lots of mic time she wouldn't try to act like Punk, but I honestly don't remember all these promos she's cut. And back to the subject of the thread. Her last run sucked and her character wasn't ver likable. There's really no sugar coating it. Maybe this one will be better. I'm reluctant to say much of anything about it in case we get a three minute segment on RAW but she got another very positive reaction on Smackdown in an eight minute match with Brie. The CM Punk chants will likely never fully go away but if they continue to give divas a chance for a few months, I know it won't last much longer than that, she could make up for a really bad six months.
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Post by gr1990 on Mar 7, 2015 14:11:55 GMT -5
It's strange to me that this thread has wavered from discussing the merits of AJ's on-screen character to mocking her body and, more perplexing yet, wondering how Punk could possibly be attracted to her. I now clearly understand what @tdj was trying to do with his hairline posts. Not perplexing to me, there's quite a few people who just flat out loathe every aspect of her existence and use dissatisfaction with her character as an socially-acceptable outlet for it. She really hasn't done anything any other top babyface in modern WWE hasn't done, her 'reign of terror' with the title was no different than Barrett's IC title runs, she jobbed all month on TV then won by cheating or opportunism when the belt was on the line. She's just as much a victim of bad booking as anyone, just about the only thing you could blame her for is her promo delivery, and even then she might be told to speak that way, yet AJ the person gets more blame for AJ the character's actions than just about anybody in the company, because for whatever reason a lot of people do seem to legit hate her so are just waiting for her character to do something questionable to have an excuse to vent their hate. I don't like her character at the moment either but I'm not compelled to make a thread every day reminding everybody of it. That's not everybody in the thread, or even close to everybody, obviously, but it explains why these threads always end up as weird personal attacks on her, and indeed why so many of them get made apropos of nothing in particular. A few people need to remember she's just a (these days) fairly minor character on a TV show they watch.
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Post by Shark on Mar 7, 2015 14:42:55 GMT -5
May I ask where everyone's hearing these Punk like promos? I watch WWE every week and can't remember AJ (or any other Diva) getting enough mic time to cut what I'd consider a Punk like promo. The only ones I could recall are the pipe bombshell and the sexually transmitted line. I'm not saying that they don't exist, or that if she did get lots of mic time she wouldn't try to act like Punk, but I honestly don't remember all these promos she's cut. And back to the subject of the thread. Her last run sucked and her character wasn't ver likable. There's really no sugar coatong it. Maybe this one will be better. Listen to her on commentary. That's when she veers into that direction most. She was especially insufferable during a battle royal in late October. It's all in tone. She talks in a very "I'm saying things so internet fans will think I'm cool" kind of way.
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Post by Perd on Mar 7, 2015 15:17:17 GMT -5
May I ask where everyone's hearing these Punk like promos? I watch WWE every week and can't remember AJ (or any other Diva) getting enough mic time to cut what I'd consider a Punk like promo. The only ones I could recall are the pipe bombshell and the sexually transmitted line. I'm not saying that they don't exist, or that if she did get lots of mic time she wouldn't try to act like Punk, but I honestly don't remember all these promos she's cut. And back to the subject of the thread. Her last run sucked and her character wasn't ver likable. There's really no sugar coatong it. Maybe this one will be better. Listen to her on commentary. That's when she veers into that direction most. She was especially insufferable during a battle royal in late October. It's all in tone. She talks in a very "I'm saying things so internet fans will think I'm cool" kind of way. Fair enough. Though I don't see how making jokes about the Diva's costumes is CM Punk like. Unless Punk is the only person that's ever been snarky. Other times she's been on commentary she's been very complimentary of Naomi, Paige, and Summer Rae. But I would agree the "smartass" schtick can get tiresome. And I wouldn't mind if she toned that aspct down. But time on commentary is not promo time. If I didn't watch WWE, but read this thread, I would have to believe that this AJ person is cutting long promos every week. And that's just not true.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Mar 7, 2015 15:36:34 GMT -5
Disagree. Love her. Though honestly she's more tweener than face. Much more entertaining than most of the bland ass divas we have on the main roster.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 8, 2015 13:37:39 GMT -5
One serious comment that I do want to make is something I think I've seen mentioned on here before... Her whole 'wow if I can be successful as a WWE diva, anyone can' thing is BS; she's thin, fit, and pretty. It's not very shocking that she became successful. I'm more glad to see slightly not-as-pretty (but not ugly, don't get me wrong, I'd totally take them on a nice date/10) women like Charlotte and Bayley achieve success under the WWE (NXT) banner. Definitely agreed on Bayley. God, am I pushing for Bayley to make it in WWE. Charlotte, on the other hand, may have it a little easier off of being Ric Flair's daughter. Not saying she doesn't have her work cut out for her just being a woman in WWE, but it definitely helps.
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Post by The Tee Why on Mar 8, 2015 16:48:43 GMT -5
I like her but I hate her promoing.
Comes off as so catty and annoying. Like a female cm punk
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Mar 8, 2015 16:53:59 GMT -5
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. AJ. Don't remember if I did that in this thread but better safe than sorry. It always reminds me of this, so you should keep doing it as much as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 18:00:06 GMT -5
AJ is boring NOW but she was probably the most over diva of the last few years, so she's doing good.
I blame AJ failures on WWE rather than AJ honestly.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 8, 2015 18:08:22 GMT -5
I just realized something about AJ for the past year and a half. Maybe two it feels like. All she does is hog up the title scene as the champion or infinite number of rematches, disappears, hogs up the title scene as the challenger or champion, disappears, and hogs up the title scene like she's doing right now again after dissappearing. It's like creative can't even bother to write her for anything outside of the title scene ...A.J.tista? bolted on tits needs to be a thing. that's brilliant. like, with Frankenstein bolts. It's Frankenstein's Monster goddammit, Frankenstein's Monster. The closest to a name it has is Adam since he says I'm the Adam of your creation. but I've heard it referred to as Adam Frankenstein which follows logically... also the Bolts would be Frankenstein Bolts regardless... since they were Bolts that originally belonged to Victor
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Post by Georgina's Fancy Water on Mar 8, 2015 18:13:51 GMT -5
And also the fact she had an 'average ass' and that's something people would make a point of noting. Not to say people only dislike her cos they don't think she's particularly attractive, but it's a sad fact that the hate would be less intense if she had a body like Layla. It seems to have died down now, but I remember people seemed to be personally aggrieved that someone with such an 'average' body could be considered so desirable by many people. She has a very built body but it still looks like a 14 year old boy who just started working out and it's disgusting. If she didn't look like a little girl maybe the hate would be less. And it's weird how some men are into pubescent looking women. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}
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