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Post by deancubed on Mar 8, 2015 12:53:35 GMT -5
On JR's blog he gives his thoughts on Bill DeMott and Wrestlemania. He says that when a team he roots for isn't in the Superbowl, he still watches and enjoys the game because it's the Superbowl. So, if you are mad about Reigns instead of Bryan, or you think Reigns isn't 'ready', then think of it as a Superbowl where 'your guy' isn't involved. It doesn't mean you need to fly off the handle and boycott the show, or encourage people to stop subscribing to WWE Network. There IS still an entertaining show here, and Lesnar/Reigns might actually be a good match. Even if it's not - I've bought UFC PPVs for $50 that ended with a 10 second KO and no fight. $9.99 for the (w)rest of Wrestlemania plus Network access for the whole month is still amazing.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Mar 8, 2015 13:02:37 GMT -5
You always have two good teams in the Super Bowl, though.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 8, 2015 13:04:40 GMT -5
Not quite JR
Wrestlemania XXXI is the Superbowl only if one of the teams in it didn't even make the playoffs.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 8, 2015 13:11:49 GMT -5
At least the Superbowl has cool Commercials and is free.
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Post by BRV on Mar 8, 2015 13:13:04 GMT -5
Not quite JR Wrestlemania XXXI is the Superbowl only if one of the teams in it didn't even make the playoffs. Using the Super Bowl analogy, Roman Reigns not only made the playoffs, he won the conference championship. From an on-screen, in-ring perspective, he has every right to be in the main event at WrestleMania. I agree completely with what Jim Ross is getting at. The Super Bowl (and WrestleMania) is worth watching if you're a football (or wrestling) fan, simply because of the spectacle of it all and because it is the biggest stage in the industry. The fact that your team (or your favorite wrestler) isn't in the game (or the main event) doesn't mean the entire thing isn't worth watching. Let's say you're a San Francisco 49ers fan. You hate the Seattle Seahawks and you don't care much for the New England Patriots. Just because your team isn't in it doesn't mean you have to stomp your feet and boycott the Super Bowl.
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Post by Hit Girl on Mar 8, 2015 14:14:46 GMT -5
Not quite JR Wrestlemania XXXI is the Superbowl only if one of the teams in it didn't even make the playoffs. Using the Super Bowl analogy, Roman Reigns not only made the playoffs, he won the conference championship. From an on-screen, in-ring perspective, he has every right to be in the main event at WrestleMania. I agree completely with what Jim Ross is getting at. The Super Bowl (and WrestleMania) is worth watching if you're a football (or wrestling) fan, simply because of the spectacle of it all and because it is the biggest stage in the industry. The fact that your team (or your favorite wrestler) isn't in the game (or the main event) doesn't mean the entire thing isn't worth watching. Let's say you're a San Francisco 49ers fan. You hate the Seattle Seahawks and you don't care much for the New England Patriots. Just because your team isn't in it doesn't mean you have to stomp your feet and boycott the Super Bowl. It does if your team should have been there by merit, but the NFL chose to put a less skillful team in the Superbowl instead, because they happen to like them more.
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Post by Nickybojelais on Mar 8, 2015 14:24:43 GMT -5
I didn't realise Roger Goddell handpicked the Superbowl participants and completely disregarded whether they are the best two teams or not.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 8, 2015 14:28:26 GMT -5
You always have two good teams in the Super Bowl, though. Exactly, Roman vs Brock is like the New England Patriots vs the Tennessee Titans.
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Post by Lancers on Mar 8, 2015 14:31:51 GMT -5
Super Bowl? Wrestlemania is more like the STUPID Bowl! Amirite!
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 8, 2015 14:34:20 GMT -5
Superbowl is free to watch.
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Post by freeze Austin on Mar 8, 2015 14:40:07 GMT -5
I can see that from the point of view that they're both these huge, athletic spectacles, but I would argue that Wrestlemania is more like the Grammy's or Oscars.
Huge event where all the biggest stars in the genre come together once a year and put on a show to delight the audience, but the winners and/or heavily featured acts are often illogically predetermined by an out of touch governing body/committee that has little regard for what the actual fans think.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Mar 8, 2015 14:58:27 GMT -5
I like JR but it's different. In sport the best/luckiest team wins and there's nothing you can do when your team is knocked out but watch on. If youre a mark in wrestling this is fine but most of us arnt and we know Reigns was picked more than a year ago to compete in this "final". People are bummed out that we get robbed of having someone in that position who is more deserving and more entertaining to a vast portion of the audience. It would be like if the NFL created a new team who's whole deal was that they were handsome badasses who were loved by girls and were unbeatable and the NFL had already decided that they would be in next year's Super Bowl, people would naturally be disgruntled if a there was a hard working, historically well liked underdog team who deserved a shot only to be shunned just because they wernt perceived to be as marketable by the corporate big wigs who ran the sport.
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Post by AdamAFL was sooooo wrong on Mar 8, 2015 15:05:45 GMT -5
I like JR but it's different. In sport the best/luckiest team wins and there's nothing you can do when your team is knocked out but watch on. If youre a mark in wrestling this is fine but most of us arnt and we know Reigns was picked more than a year ago to compete in this "final". People are bummed out that we get robbed of having someone in that position who is more deserving and more entertaining to a vast portion of the audience. It would be like if the NFL created a new team who's whole deal was that they were handsome badasses who were loved by girls and were unbeatable and the NFL had already decided that they would be in next year's Super Bowl, people would naturally be disgruntled if a there was a hard working, historically well liked underdog team who deserved a shot only to be shunned just because they wernt perceived to be as marketable by the corporate big wigs who ran the sport. So basically the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals?
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Mar 8, 2015 15:08:09 GMT -5
I like JR but it's different. In sport the best/luckiest team wins and there's nothing you can do when your team is knocked out but watch on. If youre a mark in wrestling this is fine but most of us arnt and we know Reigns was picked more than a year ago to compete in this "final". People are bummed out that we get robbed of having someone in that position who is more deserving and more entertaining to a vast portion of the audience. It would be like if the NFL created a new team who's whole deal was that they were handsome badasses who were loved by girls and were unbeatable and the NFL had already decided that they would be in next year's Super Bowl, people would naturally be disgruntled if a there was a hard working, historically well liked underdog team who deserved a shot only to be shunned just because they wernt perceived to be as marketable by the corporate big wigs who ran the sport. So basically the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals? I'll take your word for it, cant say I follow your American sports, 'cept Rasslin'!
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Mar 8, 2015 15:18:43 GMT -5
Yeah except no. It would be like knowing in July that the finalist were going to some combination every year of The Bears, The Giants, The Raiders, and The Texans. Because those guys are the biggest markets. Green Bay can get some feature match in the playoffs but you can't expect them to go over Chicago come on what ya gotta understand is it's BEST FOR BUSINESS. He should be comparing it to the NBA playoffs. Roman Reigns is Patrick Ewing, on paper the sure way to build the market we desire.
Also on the same Blog he defends Bill DeMott, so to say this guy is falling out of touch with what should be the wrestling business is an understatement. I give him credit, JR made it out of the territory days but I feel anachronism has set in with him and he's still living in an older era when people thought of ppv events as high points of entertainment.
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Mar 8, 2015 15:31:09 GMT -5
When fans start arguing that the Browns are never utilized properly and they deserve a SB main event because of all the years their guys worked semi-pro teams, while teams like the Patriots and Steelers only get the main event because of the way their jerseys look...then it will be like the WWE.
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Post by Perd on Mar 8, 2015 15:34:17 GMT -5
Well, in my opinion Bryan vs. Brock is the equivalent of using Marshawn Lynch from the 1 yard line. While Reigns vs. Brock is a far more risky pass out of the shotgun. Maybe it'll work out better for WWE than it did the Seahawks.
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Post by Catchphrase! on Mar 8, 2015 15:36:23 GMT -5
A bit of a gripe:
Granted, I am not a fan of the aforementioned sport, but I do enjoy basketball, which I believe adheres to a very similar format, pitting higher ranked teams against one another until one team earns the much coveted championship. Naturally, the selling point here is the opportunity to see the best of the best compete, and ultimately discover which group earns the honorary distinction of “champion” at the designated Final.
However, that isn't really the case with professional wrestling. The fix is in, and many are aware of that fact. So the excitement of competition is extinguished, and as a result, we require a new selling point: intriguing storylines and their adequate execution. Of course, Mania is the quintessential “Final,” but it isn't really focused so much on a competitive series; it is focused on delivering satisfying (not happy, necessarily) conclusions to the stories.
Now, both are similar, in one sense: the dependency on a selling point. And if either organization fails to deliver on that selling point, then expect to see a noticeable decrement in viewership.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Mar 8, 2015 15:42:42 GMT -5
When fans start arguing that the Browns are never utilized properly and they deserve a SB main event because of all the years their guys worked semi-pro teams, while teams like the Patriots and Steelers only get the main event because of the way their jerseys look...then it will be like the WWE. The trolling is weak here. Fans are pissed because the people who've carried the show all year, the people who they invest interest in(you know the actual goal of wrestling, not the win/loss aspect) are left out. It would be more like the NFL pulled the starting quarterbacks from each team and let them play special teams and replaced them with Favre and Montana because that's the epic showdown decades in the making.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2015 15:47:17 GMT -5
At least the Superbowl has cool Commercials and is free. wrestlemania has cool commercials for diet dew and totino pizza rolls.
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