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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 31, 2015 21:06:05 GMT -5
^Guys, don't make this personal with potshots please.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Mar 31, 2015 21:13:10 GMT -5
This guy is such a gutless coward (Unless it's a female fan he can spit on).
Plus, this asshole gave the world Fozzy. That alone is an unforgivable act.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 31, 2015 21:14:05 GMT -5
It's still baffling to me that Jericho of all people is a dude that most of the internet decided to collectively say "f*** you!" to after a couple of decades of loving him.
There was no middle ground, no build to anger just alla sudden Y2J became Y2Cheap for a buncha people.
Weird.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Mar 31, 2015 21:37:43 GMT -5
It's still baffling to me that Jericho of all people is a dude that most of the internet decided to collectively say "f*** you!" to after a couple of decades of loving him. There was no middle ground, no build to anger just alla sudden Y2J became Y2Cheap for a buncha people. Weird. I honestly think it was because he was honest about things and didn't just pander to a certain segment fan base when they were sure he would agree with their viewpoint. I've followed him for a while and have yet to see where he comes off badly. Dude just gives opinions and seems pretty fair in giving them. Definitely haven't seen him do anything to deserve the massive hate he is getting aside from the unforgivable sin of actually liking someone Vince likes and having a positive view of Vince.
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 31, 2015 21:56:11 GMT -5
It's still baffling to me that Jericho of all people is a dude that most of the internet decided to collectively say "f*** you!" to after a couple of decades of loving him. There was no middle ground, no build to anger just alla sudden Y2J became Y2Cheap for a buncha people. Weird. I honestly think it was because he was honest about things and didn't just pander to a certain segment fan base when they were sure he would agree with their viewpoint. I've followed him for a while and have yet to see where he comes off badly. Dude just gives opinions and seems pretty fair in giving them. Definitely haven't seen him do anything to deserve the massive hate he is getting aside from the unforgivable sin of actually liking someone Vince likes and having a positive view of Vince. Agreed, and it's weird how strongly people want these wrestlers to agree with them. I mean, even if Dean Ambrose and Chris Jericho had a negative opinion about Roman Reigns, why would they share it with us? Why risk their relationship with WWE and everything that comes with being associated with WWE just to express an opinion that realistically doesn't change things? It'd be like walking up to someone who's really into Pokemon and telling them that you think Pokemon sucks. They're not going to care and you just look like an asshole.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 31, 2015 21:58:13 GMT -5
I honestly think it was because he was honest about things and didn't just pander to a certain segment fan base when they were sure he would agree with their viewpoint. I've followed him for a while and have yet to see where he comes off badly. Dude just gives opinions and seems pretty fair in giving them. Definitely haven't seen him do anything to deserve the massive hate he is getting aside from the unforgivable sin of actually liking someone Vince likes and having a positive view of Vince. Agreed, and it's weird how strongly people want these wrestlers to agree with them. I mean, even if Dean Ambrose and Chris Jericho had a negative opinion about Roman Reigns, why would they share it with us? Why risk their relationship with WWE and everything that comes with being associated with WWE just to express an opinion that realistically doesn't change things? It'd be like walking up to someone who's really into Pokemon and telling them that you think Pokemon sucks. They're not going to care and you just look like an asshole. Or Donkey Kong You'd rightly be chastised too.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Mar 31, 2015 22:07:37 GMT -5
I honestly think it was because he was honest about things and didn't just pander to a certain segment fan base when they were sure he would agree with their viewpoint. I've followed him for a while and have yet to see where he comes off badly. Dude just gives opinions and seems pretty fair in giving them. Definitely haven't seen him do anything to deserve the massive hate he is getting aside from the unforgivable sin of actually liking someone Vince likes and having a positive view of Vince. Agreed, and it's weird how strongly people want these wrestlers to agree with them. I mean, even if Dean Ambrose and Chris Jericho had a negative opinion about Roman Reigns, why would they share it with us? Why risk their relationship with WWE and everything that comes with being associated with WWE just to express an opinion that realistically doesn't change things? It'd be like walking up to someone who's really into Pokemon and telling them that you think Pokemon sucks. They're not going to care and you just look like an asshole. I had a boss that once told me "praise people in public but criticize them behind the scenes". Even if Jericho absolutely hated Reigns I don't believe he would say that to us. Wouldn't help anyone. He is a veteran who has had to overcome a lot to get to where he is so I definitely see him wanting to to support Reigns and any other young wrestler who is taking a ton of undeserved hate and/or criticism. He's been there and has succeeded and failed multiple times and definitely knows how to overcome what Reigns and the other young wrestlers are facing. Being a veteran he also knows that he will never please every fan so he gives his honest opinion about things. If they hate him for it, no big deal. He is set for life, has a family and a very loyal and sizable fan base that does support him and respects him.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Mar 31, 2015 22:15:08 GMT -5
For me, I am just sick of Jericho. From the smartest guy in the room attitude to his piss poor returns and bad matches to the fact he is always trying to work people whether wrestling related or not. Maybe if you know him personally it is different but from Twitter, the bit of him I could stand of his podcast and the crap he does on WWE TV that drags down everything I just want him to shut up and go away.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 22:38:33 GMT -5
It's still baffling to me that Jericho of all people is a dude that most of the internet decided to collectively say "f*** you!" to after a couple of decades of loving him. There was no middle ground, no build to anger just alla sudden Y2J became Y2Cheap for a buncha people. Weird. It is really weird. Seems like it turned on a dime. I don't agree with opinions all the time, but I can usually see where he's coming from. I've not seen any reason for the hate he gets, he's just old-school and he and the newer generation of fans don't see eye to eye on things... Oh, now I get it. He's the new Kevin Nash, with the ironic twist of losing too often.
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Post by mizerable on Mar 31, 2015 22:48:20 GMT -5
this is why im not at all pumped for Jericho's podcast on the network. I can't even listen to him anymore. He's a fun guy, but maaaan does he overdo it, and once again he's that kind of celebrity who clearly doesn't think much of the opinion of the common fan. He's done it before and he'll do it again.
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Post by kidglov3s on Mar 31, 2015 22:53:03 GMT -5
It's still baffling to me that Jericho of all people is a dude that most of the internet decided to collectively say "f*** you!" to after a couple of decades of loving him. There was no middle ground, no build to anger just alla sudden Y2J became Y2Cheap for a buncha people. Weird. It is really weird. Seems like it turned on a dime. I don't agree with opinions all the time, but I can usually see where he's coming from. I've not seen any reason for the hate he gets, he's just old-school and he and the newer generation of fans don't see eye to eye on things... Oh, now I get it. He's the new Kevin Nash, with the ironic twist of losing too often. I didn't realize how much of a douchebag he was until I listened to his podcast. I think everyone comes off really bad on those PodcastOne podcasts. It's a tacky venue and it's comes across really fake and lame. But I think like... like I think it's lame Stone Cold does his podcast but I don't think Stone Cold's lame from the podcast, unlike Jericho where I do feel like Jericho's lame, from the podcast and other stuff.
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Post by saintpat on Mar 31, 2015 22:57:20 GMT -5
Funaki, Daniel Bryan, Fandango ... the Holy Trinity of the IWC.
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Post by angryfan on Mar 31, 2015 22:58:13 GMT -5
I'm torn. Psychologically, I get the idea, as was noted, support in public and criticize in private. It's professional.
My issue, with interviews like this, is "I can rag on fans for not being happy with something, so I'll cut to the lowest common denominator and make blanket attacks at stereotypes".
Honestly, it'd be no different than an attack journalist going at Jericho and saying, "Well, since so many in your line of work are junkies and addicts, you must be one too and so I'm going to label you".
Whether a "high road" approach is what you want to take or not, if you're giving an interview, you damn well better do it. Don't cheap shot paying customers, because just like slamming a co-worker in public, it can come back to bite you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 23:00:19 GMT -5
It is really weird. Seems like it turned on a dime. I don't agree with opinions all the time, but I can usually see where he's coming from. I've not seen any reason for the hate he gets, he's just old-school and he and the newer generation of fans don't see eye to eye on things... Oh, now I get it. He's the new Kevin Nash, with the ironic twist of losing too often. I didn't realize how much of a douchebag he was until I listened to his podcast. I think everyone comes off really bad on those PodcastOne podcasts. It's a tacky venue and it's comes across really fake and lame. But I think like... like I think it's lame Stone Cold does his podcast but I don't think Stone Cold's lame from the podcast, unlike Jericho where I do feel like Jericho's lame, from the podcast and other stuff. Podcasts and social media in general make people lame. One of my closest friends, I can't stand him on facebook, there's this douchey underbelly that comes out. I hate to admit, but it has affected my opinion of him overall. Not that I think he's a "bad" person, but it's all very braggy and just...ugh. Jeericho is very annoying on the podcast before the interview starts, and that Jericho has spilled into his promos at times (some of his promos for the most recent run were BRUTAL) but to me that's more him being oblivious and a huge dork. It doesn't make me like him more, but I don't hate him for being lame.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2015 23:02:12 GMT -5
Funaki, Daniel Bryan, Fandango ... the Holy Trinity of the IWC. Yes yes yes, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes, indeee-eeee-eeeee-eeeed...
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 31, 2015 23:03:31 GMT -5
Chris Jericho annoys me.
He annoyed me in his books where he seemed to think every segment/feud featuring him no matter how mediocre or overhyped was the best thing ever.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Apr 1, 2015 2:50:17 GMT -5
How can something that is written down word for word from what he said, be a misquote in any way?
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Apr 1, 2015 2:58:09 GMT -5
How can something that is written down word for word from what he said, be a misquote in any way? Having worked in media I can honestly say that it is very easy to skewer words from any medium whether written or other.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Apr 1, 2015 3:00:26 GMT -5
How can something that is written down word for word from what he said, be a misquote in any way? Having worked in media I can honestly say that it is very easy to skewer words from any medium whether written or other. To me that would be something being taken out of context. Misquote to me is someone manipulated a quote from someone by changing what the person said or putting it out of order. It seems like if Chris really felt this way, then he had every opportunity to say it the first time around. You can't scream misquote at IGN for him allegedly not explaining something correctly
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 1, 2015 3:24:11 GMT -5
When I said screw you and the horse you rode in on, I meant that only as a theoretical possibility.
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