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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 11, 2015 22:16:44 GMT -5
Probably, but then I'd have never let his ass come down to the ring in the first place. I'd have let him go backstage; no match, no nothing, just fired.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Apr 12, 2015 2:39:19 GMT -5
To tie it into current issues with Josh Hamilton and the Angels, if you know someone has a history of abuse and you sign them you should expect the worse case scenario to happen. If i'm not mistaken they signed Jeff right after that bust and knew if worst came to worst he could had done time. TNA gambled with Jeff to long and they lost on that night. Josh Hamilton of the angels has had his share of problems to the point of being blackballed out the league. Despite him getting clean you should expect the worse and now the Angels want nothing to do with him. For these type of guys their can be great reward but also great risk. Getting clean? Hamilton just relapsed into cocaine and alcohol abuse about 2 months ago.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 12, 2015 3:24:39 GMT -5
To tie it into current issues with Josh Hamilton and the Angels, if you know someone has a history of abuse and you sign them you should expect the worse case scenario to happen. If i'm not mistaken they signed Jeff right after that bust and knew if worst came to worst he could had done time. TNA gambled with Jeff to long and they lost on that night. Josh Hamilton of the angels has had his share of problems to the point of being blackballed out the league. Despite him getting clean you should expect the worse and now the Angels want nothing to do with him. For these type of guys their can be great reward but also great risk. Getting clean? Hamilton just relapsed into cocaine and alcohol abuse about 2 months ago. I know, I meant before the relapse which was why I was referencing now about the Angels owner basically putting him on blast about he may not be welcomed back to the team. The basic point is if you sign a person with past and in both their cases heavy substance abuse issues you should expect to get bitten. If Josh was clean for a while and could still relapse then I hope TNA has their eyes on Jeff constantly.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Apr 12, 2015 3:40:48 GMT -5
I would have fired him immediately.
BUT, I would have made it *crystal* clear that the situation would be re-evaluated, down the road, contingent on him going to and completing a reputable rehabilitation program.
Throwing somebody with substance abuse (and really deep pockets) out of a job (and, thus, freeing them from whatever responsibilities they still have) can have terminal consequences for the addict.
The public statement would go something like this.
"In light of the incident that occurred at the Victory Road Pay-Per-View, Impact Wrestling has severed its working agreement with Jeff Hardy, effective immediately. The company recognizes that Mr. Hardy has a history of substance abuse issues and is sympathetic. In the best interests of our (former) talent, Impact Wrestling President Dixie Carter will be paying for Mr. Hardy to undergo a thorough rehabilitation program. When and if Mr. Hardy completes the program and manages to maintain and demonstrate his well-being, Impact Wrestling may offer an opportunity for a return to the company in some capacity. For the time being, the company's principal concern is the recovery, health, and over-all well-being of Mr. Hardy.
We apologize to the fans who had to witness Mr. Hardy's issues on television and will be offering the next Pay-Per-View free of charge to those who ordered Victory Road, and wish Mr. Hardy well in his recovery and in all his future endeavors."
As opposed to road TNA chose, which was basically to continue to put a substance abuser who could barely stand under his own power for more than a few moments in a position where he was expected to engage in performances which are dangerous under the best of circumstances, all for a few extra bucks.
See also: Angle, Kurt.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 9:58:58 GMT -5
I think anyone in this thread would get fired if they showed up to their job in Jeff Hardy's condition. I know I would, in any job I've ever worked whether it was low level hourly work or skilled professional work.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Apr 23, 2015 10:08:49 GMT -5
Man, ya'll know that if Hardy went to rehab, it'd be WWE paying for it, not TNA.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 23, 2015 10:27:52 GMT -5
Man, ya'll know that if Hardy went to rehab, it'd be WWE paying for it, not TNA. Of course just like they payed for Angles rehab but that wouldn't stop TNA from being at the front door with a bottle of tequila saying welcome home
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Post by SUPES on May 29, 2015 14:16:08 GMT -5
David Bixenspan @davidbix 4h4 hours ago Great out of context Dixie quote: “anything that TNA would be able to produce would be incomplete and fail to represent any constant policy”
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Post by xCompackx on May 29, 2015 14:45:08 GMT -5
Ha, "drug policy". Good one, TNA.
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Post by Johnny D on May 29, 2015 17:37:58 GMT -5
Sting looked like he was ready to kill a bitch after that match, and I wouldn't have blamed him one bit.
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Post by Sam Punk on May 30, 2015 21:44:30 GMT -5
I wouldn't have fired him because I believe everyone deserves a second chance. Send him to rehab and give him all the time he needs to recover.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on May 30, 2015 21:50:29 GMT -5
I would have. In that condition he is at risk to everyone in the company and shows that he is not in control of himself. However, after firing him if I had the resources I would have offered to send him to rehab.
But, I would give him the chance to earn a non wrestling spot back with the company if he could stay clean and participate in rehab programs over a set amount of time .
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 22:19:27 GMT -5
I wouldn't have fired him because I believe everyone deserves a second chance. Send him to rehab and give him all the time he needs to recover. Second chance? Hardy was probably on his 15th or so chance by then. The dude had been super unreliable because of his drug use for a while, that's why WWE gave him the boot in 2003.
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Post by Push R Truth on May 30, 2015 22:50:35 GMT -5
Has anything ever came out about who in power knew Hardy was wasted prior to the match and still sent him out there?
I'd love to know who all was stupid enough to send a completely bombed Jeff Hardy down to the ring
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on May 30, 2015 23:08:59 GMT -5
I wouldn't have fired him because I believe everyone deserves a second chance. Send him to rehab and give him all the time he needs to recover. Jeff was way past his "second chance" by then.
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Post by SUPES on May 30, 2015 23:21:42 GMT -5
Has anything ever came out about who in power knew Hardy was wasted prior to the match and still sent him out there? I'd love to know who all was stupid enough to send a completely bombed Jeff Hardy down to the ring HA HA HA like anyone's gonna own up to that.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2015 23:26:35 GMT -5
Has anything ever came out about who in power knew Hardy was wasted prior to the match and still sent him out there? I'd love to know who all was stupid enough to send a completely bombed Jeff Hardy down to the ring Maybe no one. Addicts are very devious (they have to be once their addiction gets out of hand). I reckon Hardy turned up sober, got high in one of the bathroom stalls and left just as his music hit. It then only becomes obvious once he is in the ring flipping the fans off. All he has to do is walk straight as hes going past whoever is in the gorilla position. This of course does not negate TNA of any responsibility. If they choose to hire an addict even one who claims to have cleaned up then they should have someone backstage sticking to him like glue. Don't want the hassle? Don't hire him.
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Post by SUPES on May 30, 2015 23:49:57 GMT -5
That Bischoff was pussy-footing around forever with a useless promo, and then the match was only 90 seconds, indicates the company was aware upon having him walk through the curtain.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2015 0:02:15 GMT -5
AFAIK neither Bischoff nor Sting or the referee (Hebner?) have ever gone into detail about it in an interview or anything. Maybe they are friendly/sympathetic to Hardy and don't want to embarrass him but it's passing strange that we know little about what happened before the incident given how leaky TNA is.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 31, 2015 0:04:38 GMT -5
I would have never let him go out there in the first place. I would have told him, get clean, or you're fired for violating our drug policy, and yes there would be a strict one.
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