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Post by hurbmurphy on May 13, 2015 7:43:54 GMT -5
He's a dick, but that's just how Greek mythology went. Zeus made his own wife eat his poop.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 7:55:46 GMT -5
Everyone was a dick in Greek Mythology and life was worthless.
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Post by Dub H on May 13, 2015 8:51:33 GMT -5
Everyone was a dick in Greek Mythology and life was worthless. if you ever need to explain greek mythology,this is the best way to explain.
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Post by lionheart21 on May 13, 2015 13:28:28 GMT -5
Very unlikable and the villain of the series. "THEY STOPPED ME FROM KILLING AN ENTIRE CITY, THEY MUST DIE!" Plus, just a general irredeemable dick to any character he meets, like Poseidon's lady who he crushed in a wheel to open a gate. I felt dirty playing the games. God of War III was pretty much the point where you stopped being an antihero and just went into straight-up villain. Kratos is one of my favorite video games characters, but when he did that to Poseidon's lady and essentially made her into nothing more than a tool and cared nothing for what was about to happen to her, even I felt that the guy was a total irredeemable asshole for it. Even the part leading up to it, where he was just shoving her around and bullying her on the way there while she pleaded for mercy, it really pissed me off. He redeemed himself somewhat at the end, which was pretty much the only selfless thing that he's done in the entire game series.
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Post by chrom on May 13, 2015 13:57:21 GMT -5
There was plans for him to have a little dog that he had with him and show care for, that reminded him of better times and his last link to humanity. During the game the dog would get bitten and infected and start to transform into a Cerberus and Kratos would have to kill it before it did.
They scrapped that deeming it too dark.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 13, 2015 14:17:12 GMT -5
Sometimes, I just really like playing as an unashamed asshole. It's so much more fun than always being the goody two-shoes who is out to right the wrongs of the world. Sometimes it's just cool to be an unstoppable badass who fights for his own selfish reasons. Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. Sometimes, it's fun to be bad.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 13, 2015 14:22:14 GMT -5
There was plans for him to have a little dog that he had with him and show care for, that reminded him of better times and his last link to humanity. During the game the dog would get bitten and infected and start to transform into a Cerberus and Kratos would have to kill it before it did. They scrapped that deeming it too dark. ...that's the line? All the other terrible shit they had him do and THAT is the line.
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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2015 14:30:45 GMT -5
I don't like the God of War games for a lot of reasons, and Kratos is one of them.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 13, 2015 14:34:54 GMT -5
Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. Sometimes, it's fun to be bad. Replace "fun" with "boring and done to death" and you've got my view on most western gaming heroes today.
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Post by Cela on May 13, 2015 14:36:30 GMT -5
Sometimes, I just really like playing as an unashamed asshole. It's so much more fun than always being the goody two-shoes who is out to right the wrongs of the world. Sometimes it's just cool to be an unstoppable badass who fights for his own selfish reasons. Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. Have you ever played Sims or Sim City? At some point, everyone who has played those games has killed Sims or unleashed an alien invasion just to see what happens.
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Post by Cyno on May 13, 2015 14:42:25 GMT -5
I got my Evil Overlord jollies through the original Roller Coaster Tycoon, where I would have rides that would explode on people, and send serial throwers up and incompetent employees to drown in the Lake of Death.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 13, 2015 14:45:20 GMT -5
Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. Have you ever played Sims or Sim City? At some point, everyone who has played those games has killed Sims or unleashed an alien invasion just to see what happens. I went on my fair share of rampages in Sin City when I was little, but over time I got more enjoyment out of watching my towns grow and develop.
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Post by J is Justice on May 13, 2015 14:54:37 GMT -5
Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. Have you ever played Sims or Sim City? At some point, everyone who has played those games has killed Sims or unleashed an alien invasion just to see what happens. Or in my case, played Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis and released all the dinosaurs.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 13, 2015 14:54:54 GMT -5
Sometimes, it's fun to be bad. Replace "fun" with "boring and done to death" and you've got my view on most western gaming heroes today. Ah, but you like Cena, so it's a bit of a wash there. [/un-needed cheapshot]
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 13, 2015 14:57:20 GMT -5
Replace "fun" with "boring and done to death" and you've got my view on most western gaming heroes today. Ah, but you like Cena, so it's a bit of a wash there. [/un-needed cheapshot] You're right, that wasn't needed at all.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on May 13, 2015 14:59:36 GMT -5
Ah, but you like Cena, so it's a bit of a wash there. [/un-needed cheapshot] You're right, that wasn't needed at all. But, in all seriousness, I would say most Western heroes are more snarky then grim nowadays. Like Nathan Drake and MCU Iron Man, for example.
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Post by chrom on May 13, 2015 15:00:08 GMT -5
There was plans for him to have a little dog that he had with him and show care for, that reminded him of better times and his last link to humanity. During the game the dog would get bitten and infected and start to transform into a Cerberus and Kratos would have to kill it before it did. They scrapped that deeming it too dark. ...that's the line? All the other terrible shit they had him do and THAT is the line. They didn't expect GOW to become such a huge franchise and that was back in development when Kratos still had some human qualities in him. Another plan was for him to carry a baby around on his back which you can find drawings of. Kratos was first expected to be a fully clothed and armored warrior but they didn't think he looked brutal enough so they stripped him of his gear until they got to what he is now.
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Post by The Ichi on May 13, 2015 15:01:17 GMT -5
Sometimes, I just really like playing as an unashamed asshole. It's so much more fun than always being the goody two-shoes who is out to right the wrongs of the world. Sometimes it's just cool to be an unstoppable badass who fights for his own selfish reasons. Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. I'm playing RDR for the first time right now (yeah, yeah, I know) and I think John Marston may be the best of both worlds. He's obviously a gritty badass, but he's trying to put all that behind him and he has qualities of a goody two shoes as well.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on May 13, 2015 15:03:37 GMT -5
Can you elaborate as to why you feel that way? I don't see how playing as Mario or Link or even John Marston or Solid Snake wouldn't be as satisfying as playing with someone so impossible to relate to as Kratos. I'm playing RDR for the first time right now (yeah, yeah, I know) and I think John Marston may be the best of both worlds. He's obviously a gritty badass, but he's trying to put all that behind him and he has qualities of a goody two shoes as well. My all time favorite game heroes are Sonic and Sora (I can take or leave grit), but yeah, Marston's awesome.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on May 13, 2015 16:18:24 GMT -5
Whether or not a protagonist is "likeable" has no bearing on whether or not it's a well-written protagonist. That beig said, it's just annoying to hear Kratos scream and roar at every main character every 5 seconds.
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