StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Jun 14, 2015 22:13:16 GMT -5
dude, you have been a bit dramatic tonight. Hyperbole's my language. And besides that... Honestly, that whole show was just a miserable experience. I kept watching because maybe - maybe - something , but you basically had the opposite of the ideal winner in every single match, said matches were all drawn out and dull, and during that last match in particular I swear I was looking at the clock every thirty seconds wondering how the hell it wasn't 10:55 yet. I feel like I aged 40 years watching that thing. That was agonizingly boring, which I suppose fits with the godawful title reign it wound up continuing. I don't think it's a bit hyperbolic to refer to that show as god awful. It was a rough one.
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andrew8798
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 14, 2015 22:13:30 GMT -5
I am beyond sick of heel champions. Would it really hurt the WWE if a babyface won the title and had a lengthy reign? It's usually Vince's MO. Right now doing mostly a NWA thing
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Post by The Tee Why on Jun 14, 2015 22:13:50 GMT -5
Coulda been nice to see Rollins get a legitimate, convincing win to shake off his whole "goofy chickenshit heel" title reign.
But this is WWE, no one is allowed to be a heel champion without being a chickenshit.
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Post by The Tee Why on Jun 14, 2015 22:14:33 GMT -5
I didnt mind the show but I'm glad I didnt pay for it. To think I was gonna sign up for WWE Network again
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 14, 2015 22:14:47 GMT -5
Seriously, how can this not be bought as the match ender? Like, did you see how glass-eyed and vacant Ambrose was after he took it? Running Lyger Bomb on a ladder sure should be a match ender. Except that it wasn't. Ambrose got up. This would have been a good Falls Count Anywhere No Holds Barred finish. Like I said previously, wrong gimmick for the match. That's my point. Ambrose was pretty much dead on the outside and wouldn't have looked weak if he lost. But he looks dumb when he and Rollins are holding onto the title then he loses it as soon as he hits the ground.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 14, 2015 22:16:50 GMT -5
It has always been the person who comes down from the ladder with the item, both men left the ladder with it but Seth Rollins was the man came down with it. So just have seth kick dean off or have him cap deans knee again instead of that contrived mess they did. What they did made sense though. Seth went out and destroyed his mortal enemy, who somehow stuck around and gave the champ a scare. Seth left with the belt and looked great but Dean can always claim to be screwed by circumstance. Both men leave the ladder with the title but Seth comes away at the landing. Perfect ending.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Jun 14, 2015 22:18:40 GMT -5
Not a great show at all. I don't know if I'd call it worst of the year so far, that honor might belong to Elimination Chamber, but other than Owens/Cena there was nothing of value here. A shame too since MitB has almost consistently been a good to great show.
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Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 14, 2015 22:21:38 GMT -5
The ending was just ridiculous And Im not even talking about the title fall Im talking about the complete no sell Job by Dean, I mean holy hell, that was just ridiculous to me, completely took me out of it... I mock Cena's selling but that was just silly Agreed, and I don't even hate Dean! But I think that TOPPED Cena in the no sell category, in every aspect, especially how his leg as worked over in the match... I mean I can believe guys are durable and have heart and determination and strong will and all that jazz but that was just complete no selling, he shrugged off THREE POWERBOMBS on the outside, one into a bunch of chairs and a Ladder! I mean I can only believe so much guys...
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 14, 2015 22:25:12 GMT -5
I would've liked the ending a lot more if them both grabbing the title meant that it was vacant and they ran a tournament to determine a new champion. Having Seth just retain it like that was kinda boring.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 14, 2015 22:27:35 GMT -5
I would've liked the ending a lot more if them both grabbing the title meant that it was vacant and they ran a tournament to determine a new champion. Having Seth just retain it like that was kinda boring. Or at least an ending where the champ is unclear and the ending's in doubt so we get an interesting cliffhanger ending for Raw. Though, that might've been recycling a similar controversy from just two weeks ago.
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 14, 2015 22:31:57 GMT -5
I would've liked the ending a lot more if them both grabbing the title meant that it was vacant and they ran a tournament to determine a new champion. Having Seth just retain it like that was kinda boring. Or at least an ending where the champ is unclear and the ending's in doubt so we get an interesting cliffhanger ending for Raw. Though, that might've been recycling a similar controversy from just two weeks ago. That itself is another problem about heel champions; they do the usual bullshit endings so much that it's a very real possibility that they'll end up recycling stuff.
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Lancers
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Post by Lancers on Jun 14, 2015 22:35:57 GMT -5
Sheamus is probably holding onto the briefcase for awhile and will likely use it once a face wins the title. Of course, that would mean a third consecutive lengthy title reign for a heel as WWE Champion. Lesnar.. Rollins... Who is the third? Lesnar won the belt from Cena. Sheamus would potentially be the third. It's looking more like NWA booking.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 14, 2015 22:37:35 GMT -5
I would've liked the ending a lot more if them both grabbing the title meant that it was vacant and they ran a tournament to determine a new champion. Having Seth just retain it like that was kinda boring. I really think they went too long and killed the ending. That seemed tailor made for Hunter to come out and call Seth the winner, Seth to cut that little promo and then Brock or more likely Paul E. arrive and put Seth on notice. Once they hit everything seemed to go into rush mode with nothing given a chance to really breathe.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 14, 2015 22:38:04 GMT -5
Lesnar.. Rollins... Who is the third? Lesnar won the belt from Cena. Sheamus would potentially be the third. It's looking more like NWA booking. I see Sheamus actually losing the cash-in, especially if he tried it on Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2015 22:41:14 GMT -5
The entire point is this.
At the end of the whole thing Rollins is still champion, did it on his own terms, without help and he beat Ambrose of all people. Ambrose, Reigns, everyone in the Authority who's not Triple H hell the announcers, they all said Rollins wasn't the best in the Shield, they all said he was carried, they all said it shouldn't be his belt and they all said that he wasn't who he said he was.
Rollins proved all of them wrong and now none of them can say shit about it.
That's what's the most annoying part about this whole thing. Ambrose and Reigns, the babyface heroes, were proven wrong again. Everything Rollins said was justified and now they, the babyfaces, have to say "well I guess I was wrong here" which is utter bullshit. People can say "well Ambrose barely lost" or "it was a fluke win" all they want but Seth's point was proven and they can't really say shit to it. You should never make the babyfaces appear wrong in this type of situation.
It's stupid.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 14, 2015 22:41:37 GMT -5
Lesnar.. Rollins... Who is the third? Lesnar won the belt from Cena. Sheamus would potentially be the third. It's looking more like NWA booking. and even then Bryan and Cena only had it for maybe 4 months total (probably a little longer but Bryan was off TV so long as champ it is hard to give credit) after Orton had a stranglehold on the WWE Title. Since Summerslam 2013, the WWE Title has really been reserved for heels.
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Lancers
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Post by Lancers on Jun 14, 2015 22:42:18 GMT -5
Sheamus would potentially be the third. It's looking more like NWA booking. I see Sheamus actually losing the cash-in, especially if he tried it on Reigns. It's a possibility. Then again, I'd figure the company will do whatever they can to make the fans like Reigns. So having him screwed by someone they like even less (Sheamus) would benefit Reigns. I'm still trying to figure how Brock plays into all of this. I figure the Authority will be like an episode of "Full House" tomorrow and completely do over canon and forget the tension between Rollins and Kane/J&J even existed. I gotta believe he's still gunning for Rollins. It's why I'm thinking Sheamus might hold onto it longer than people expect. He's really out of the loop in the main event picture.
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 14, 2015 22:43:48 GMT -5
I would've liked the ending a lot more if them both grabbing the title meant that it was vacant and they ran a tournament to determine a new champion. Having Seth just retain it like that was kinda boring. I really think they went too long and killed the ending. That seemed tailor made for Hunter to come out and call Seth the winner, Seth to cut that little promo and then Brock or more likely Paul E. arrive and put Seth on notice. Once they hit everything seemed to go into rush mode with nothing given a chance to really breathe. Just a theory here, but maybe they were trying to play to the idea of Sheamus cashing in. I mean, I'll admit that it felt like something was going to happen, and maybe having Ambrose and Rollins spend time outside of the ring was part of that. It very well could've just been poor booking or bad timing on someone's part, but it's something to consider.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jun 14, 2015 22:45:12 GMT -5
I really think they went too long and killed the ending. That seemed tailor made for Hunter to come out and call Seth the winner, Seth to cut that little promo and then Brock or more likely Paul E. arrive and put Seth on notice. Once they hit everything seemed to go into rush mode with nothing given a chance to really breathe. Just a theory here, but maybe they were trying to play to the idea of Sheamus cashing in. I mean, I'll admit that it felt like something was going to happen, and maybe having Ambrose and Rollins spend time outside of the ring was part of that. It very well could've just been poor booking or bad timing on someone's part, but it's something to consider. Yeah, there were a few times I was sure Sheamus (or someone) was supposed to arrive based on the camera angle. While I liked the way it went, it was definitely weird.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Jun 14, 2015 22:45:39 GMT -5
I would've liked the ending a lot more if them both grabbing the title meant that it was vacant and they ran a tournament to determine a new champion. Having Seth just retain it like that was kinda boring. I really think they went too long and killed the ending. That seemed tailor made for Hunter to come out and call Seth the winner, Seth to cut that little promo and then Brock or more likely Paul E. arrive and put Seth on notice. Once they hit everything seemed to go into rush mode with nothing given a chance to really breathe. Heyman showing up to warn Seth of Brock's impending arrival, as I noted before, would've been the perfect hook for Raw tomorrow.
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