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Post by Lazy peon on Jul 27, 2015 22:35:45 GMT -5
That's better... but still stupid.
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Post by Danimal on Jul 27, 2015 23:00:47 GMT -5
Styles Clash / Neutralizer,whatever you wanna call it,you can be the most gifted wrestler,that move never looks like it hurts This The only time it ever looked like a finisher is when Styles did the version that dropped his opponent on their head/neck, which was totally unsafe. It's a crap move both guys are too good for.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 28, 2015 0:43:31 GMT -5
You can basically pick any from the list of moves that WWE constantly recycles
Overdrive The Generic Black Guy Move Pump Handle Slam Full Nelson Slam
All shit moves but it's guaranteed that they're constantly going to be recycled.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 28, 2015 1:03:22 GMT -5
You can basically pick any from the list of moves that WWE constantly recycles Overdrive The Generic Black Guy Move Pump Handle Slam Full Nelson Slam All shit moves but it's guaranteed that they're constantly going to be recycled. Also, Reverse DDT most of the time is a pretty shitty finisher. I think Test is probably the only person who made the Pumphandle Slam and Full Nelson Slam look good as finishers, but in general, he went through like a million finishers, running Big Boot being probably the best one.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jul 28, 2015 1:14:53 GMT -5
Also, Reverse DDT most of the time is a pretty shitty finisher. I think Test is probably the only person who made the Pumphandle Slam and Full Nelson Slam look good as finishers, but in general, he went through like a million finishers, running Big Boot being probably the best one. Ah, forgot that one. It's even worse when they recycled the version with the pointless scoop slam that Kozlov and whats his name used, the big guy who did Midcard Mafia? The version where it lifts for a scoop slam then for some reasons sets them down on their feet before hitting the reverse DDT. The FNS for me is just too boring for a finisher, it'd be OK as a filler move in someone's moveset but as a finisher it's just lame. Same as the Pumphandle slam. It's fine when Wade busts it out as a midmatch move but if it became his finisher it would be lame.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 28, 2015 1:20:02 GMT -5
Also, Reverse DDT most of the time is a pretty shitty finisher. I think Test is probably the only person who made the Pumphandle Slam and Full Nelson Slam look good as finishers, but in general, he went through like a million finishers, running Big Boot being probably the best one. Ah, forgot that one. It's even worse when they recycled the version with the pointless scoop slam that Kozlov and whats his name used, the big guy who did Midcard Mafia? The version where it lifts for a scoop slam then for some reasons sets them down on their feet before hitting the reverse DDT. The FNS for me is just too boring for a finisher, it'd be OK as a filler move in someone's moveset but as a finisher it's just lame. Same as the Pumphandle slam. It's fine when Wade busts it out as a midmatch move but if it became his finisher it would be lame. Yeah, I think the FNS was just a signature move for Test, come to think of it, and it was fine for that. Vance Archer, and yeah, that version is even worse.
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Post by Vern on Jul 28, 2015 2:35:53 GMT -5
This actually makes sense since it covers opponents shoulders, kind of like mini banzai drop. If it makes it worse (and not totally awesome) the move was called a Trip to the Batcave...
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Post by Pipe_Bomb2k13 on Jul 28, 2015 7:36:58 GMT -5
Adam Rose's Party Foul which I think it use to be Dirty Deeds before it became a DDT, but that looks so weak not that Adam Rose ever wins any matches still looks ridiculous.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 28, 2015 10:52:26 GMT -5
Not WWE but... Konnan throwing his shoe at people. The stroke
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:15:55 GMT -5
You can basically pick any from the list of moves that WWE constantly recycles Overdrive The Generic Black Guy MovePump Handle Slam Full Nelson Slam All shit moves but it's guaranteed that they're constantly going to be recycled. Complete Shot? Because yeah, that's pretty much what it is.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 28, 2015 16:20:40 GMT -5
You can basically pick any from the list of moves that WWE constantly recycles Overdrive The Generic Black Guy MovePump Handle Slam Full Nelson Slam All shit moves but it's guaranteed that they're constantly going to be recycled. Complete Shot? Because yeah, that's pretty much what it is. The jumping version. Regular one's not really that great, but for some reason, if you're black or Judas Messias, you also gotta jump.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jul 28, 2015 16:43:30 GMT -5
Adam Rose's Party Foul which I think it use to be Dirty Deeds before it became a DDT, but that looks so weak not that Adam Rose ever wins any matches still looks ridiculous. Not quite. Adam Rose's Party Foul is Cravat/Snapmare Driver, while Dirty Deeds I was a Headlock Driver.
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Post by The Tim Duncan Experience on Jul 28, 2015 16:58:43 GMT -5
I never liked the chokeslam. You have to stand there for like 5 seconds while the person clutches you by the neck before he picks you up.
I'd go all Bad News Brown and give a kick to the balls and get DQ'ed rather than take that pinfall loss. Looking at you Kane especially. Big Show I can believe, but still hate the finisher.
And might take some flak, but the splash after coming from the ropes. Mark Henry, big daddy v, Bundy, and at least Big E were big that I can accept it. Warrior, on the other hand, the Gorilla Press and the Warrior Shoulder Tackle were all better Finishers than the Splash.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Jul 28, 2015 17:22:34 GMT -5
Complete Shot? Because yeah, that's pretty much what it is. The jumping version. Regular one's not really that great, but for some reason, if you're black or Judas Messias, you also gotta jump. PAYDIRT! LIE DETECTOR/WHAT'S UP! (Depending on the week) PLAY OF THE DAY! How many other black guys have had that glorious move gifted to them???
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 28, 2015 17:42:42 GMT -5
I never liked the chokeslam. You have to stand there for like 5 seconds while the person clutches you by the neck before he picks you up. I'd go all Bad News Brown and give a kick to the balls and get DQ'ed rather than take that pinfall loss. Looking at you Kane especially. Big Show I can believe, but still hate the finisher. And might take some flak, but the splash after coming from the ropes. Mark Henry, big daddy v, Bundy, and at least Big E were big that I can accept it. Warrior, on the other hand, the Gorilla Press and the Warrior Shoulder Tackle were all better Finishers than the Splash. Big E isn't that big and I think Warrior in his prime roughly was the same size.
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Post by Vern on Jul 28, 2015 17:43:36 GMT -5
The 'AA': It has mutated from a Death Valley Driver (which loooks fantastic when done correctly), to a Fireman's Carry Takeover to a move I didn't even notice had been used in the last Cena/Owens match. It was almost like Owens had tripped over or something. I'm not being a dick here, but so many people say this, and I have never once seen him do it as a DVD. It's always been a fireman's carry slam when I've seen him do it. Do you have any footage of it being a DVD? Here's his first ever one. The commentators (Cole and Tazz) called it a Death Valley Driver at the time. Cena got on the mic after the match and announced it was called an FU... 'cause Brock. Sorry for the video quality, I'm exhausted and couldn't be bothered seeking out a better video to gif.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 28, 2015 17:46:04 GMT -5
The jumping version. Regular one's not really that great, but for some reason, if you're black or Judas Messias, you also gotta jump. PAYDIRT! LIE DETECTOR/WHAT'S UP! (Depending on the week) PLAY OF THE DAY! How many other black guys have had that glorious move gifted to them??? It's not just a black guy move. Everyone that wrestles Baron Corbin has attempted it but it keeps getting countered.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 28, 2015 17:48:57 GMT -5
Byron Saxton's "Let's Go This Way Just Kidding I Changed My Mind Actually Let's Do This" is the worst finish I've ever seen.
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Post by Pipe_Bomb2k13 on Jul 28, 2015 17:59:31 GMT -5
Adam Rose's Party Foul which I think it use to be Dirty Deeds before it became a DDT, but that looks so weak not that Adam Rose ever wins any matches still looks ridiculous. Not quite. Adam Rose's Party Foul is Cravat/Snapmare Driver, while Dirty Deeds I was a Headlock Driver. All I remember is it being awful and looking weak but glad you cleared it up at least.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Jul 28, 2015 18:16:34 GMT -5
I think the Jumping Complete Shot is slightly worse than the Overdrive as the Overdrive looks like it doesn't do anything, the Jumping Complete Shot looks like it hurts the guy doing it much more than the victim.
I quite like the Inverted Overdrive though...
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