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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 29, 2015 11:52:53 GMT -5
Travel back to the latter era of the Ghostbusters cartoon and the horrible changes done by the Q5 group
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 29, 2015 12:52:18 GMT -5
Ah yes... the terribleness of Slimer and the Real Ghostbusters  |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 29, 2015 13:08:16 GMT -5
No,no, no,no,no. The Coulier era didn't happen. It was Arseno Hall, Lorenzo Music, Frank Welker and Maurice LeMarche and then the show ended. Don't try to tell me otherwise.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 29, 2015 13:26:22 GMT -5
Ah, network interference. The death knell of many a good show.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 29, 2015 13:36:39 GMT -5
Ah, network interference. The death knell of many a good show. Best/worst part of htis is the focus group people brought in to "fix the show" that did absoluteky no research. |
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 29, 2015 13:40:58 GMT -5
Ah, network interference. The death knell of many a good show. Best/worst part of htis is the focus group people brought in to "fix the show" that did absoluteky no research. Due to personal experience, I have a very low opinion of the field of child psychiatry. From what I have seen, more often than not they are a bunch of blusterous a-holes with an over-inflated opinion of their own self worth because they have an utterly useless piece of paper that says they are smart. |
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 29, 2015 16:09:38 GMT -5
Ah the BSNP. Making sure it's fun to play in a nonviolent way
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jul 29, 2015 17:04:58 GMT -5
Geesh, I didn't even watch Real Ghostbusters as a kid but even I can tell what a travesty the "Slimer and the Real Ghostbuster" bullshit was. Gotta love focus groups who decide to make invasive changes without doing the crazy thing of actually asking the audience what they want.
It's especially jarring for this show. They basically went "Hey, this show is a massive success and is praised by both critics and the public! ... ... Let's change EVERYTHING!".
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 29, 2015 18:12:01 GMT -5
I did watch it as a kid and like 90% of other cartoons from the era the first few seasons hold up very well.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 29, 2015 18:27:26 GMT -5
I did watch it as a kid and like 90% of other cartoons from the era the first few seasons hold up very well. pretty much the first few seasons and any of the syndicated episodes hold up... any of the episodes ABC made after trying to "Fix it" pretty much don't. |
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 30, 2015 12:04:07 GMT -5
Why did the GBs need slimer?
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 30, 2015 12:07:14 GMT -5
Why did the GBs need slimer? For the same reason the Thundercats needed Snarf. Try to sell kids on cute, marketable characters |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 30, 2015 12:09:30 GMT -5
Why did the GBs need slimer? I liked slimer. He was decent in his original role as basically the mascot and Peter understandably hating him led to some of the best jokes of the series. and using him sparingly was fine. When it became Slimer is the super important star of the show and everyone loves him was when the problem started. |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jul 30, 2015 12:10:31 GMT -5
By the way, in both this video and the on on the good episodes, Phelous mentioned "syndicated" episodes. It's not the first time I hear that term about TV but I'm still not sure what it means, especially since the way he's talking about it, it sounds like it was something that existed parallel to the regular show.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Jul 30, 2015 12:15:13 GMT -5
By the way, in both this video and the on on the good episodes, Phelous mentioned "syndicated" episodes. It's not the first time I hear that term about TV but I'm still not sure what it means, especially since the way he's talking about it, it sounds like it was something that existed parallel to the regular show. Synidcated episodes were the Monday-Friday episodes that would go on different television affiliates. Like maybe your local ABC or NBC affiliate, or a local channel would pick them up. That's why there's 65 for syndication, to be able to fill about almost a quarter of a year worth of episodes. It also explains the lower quality as more had to be pumped out to make the schedule. The ABC Saturday morning ones were usually given more of a budget considering they were exclusive to ABC and only needed the regular 13 episode length that a regular cartoon season would get. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 30, 2015 12:15:24 GMT -5
By the way, in both this video and the on on the good episodes, Phelous mentioned "syndicated" episodes. It's not the first time I hear that term about TV but I'm still not sure what it means, especially since the way he's talking about it, it sounds like it was something that existed parallel to the regular show. You sell syndicated shows to individual stations. They had seasons basically sold to be played on other stations and some that were ordered and contracted specifically for ABC. |
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 30, 2015 12:24:48 GMT -5
As a semi related note, the comics have a crossover between the classic and Real GBs.
And Peter Venkman hates Peter Venkman. It's great.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Jul 30, 2015 12:29:35 GMT -5
I totally get it when the producers were talking about "A little Slimer here goes a long way." A lot of children's shows seem to do that anymore. There's one thing that the kids like, and then they overuse it to the point that by the end of the show, people are so damn tired of that character, it ruins the entirety of the show.
I didn't watch the Real Ghostbusters that much as a kid, but what I did see, I enjoyed. It was probably the early episodes, but I do remember watching the episode where Peter, Ray, and Egon go to the parallel world where Ghosts are the Ghostbusters. But I remember one of the early episodes being on the Ghostbusters DVD and enjoying the hell out of it. The episode on Ghostbusters 2? Not so much.
But, like what's been said before, too much Slimer is a bad thing. I've seen it happen on other shows where one character becomes so damn popular that the show decides to overuse the character, pissing everyone off.
This is the first time I've heard of them wanting to get rid of Ray, though. That would've been completely asinine.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 30, 2015 12:33:32 GMT -5
I totally get it when the producers were talking about "A little Slimer here goes a long way." A lot of children's shows seem to do that anymore. There's one thing that the kids like, and then they overuse it to the point that by the end of the show, people are so damn tired of that character, it ruins the entirety of the show. I didn't watch the Real Ghostbusters that much as a kid, but what I did see, I enjoyed. It was probably the early episodes, but I do remember watching the episode where Peter, Ray, and Egon go to the parallel world where Ghosts are the Ghostbusters. But I remember one of the early episodes being on the Ghostbusters DVD and enjoying the hell out of it. The episode on Ghostbusters 2? Not so much. But, like what's been said before, too much Slimer is a bad thing. I've seen it happen on other shows where one character becomes so damn popular that the show decides to overuse the character, pissing everyone off. This is the first time I've heard of them wanting to get rid of Ray, though. That would've been completely asinine. I have the DVD set that has the real Ghostbusters Cartoons too ... it's pretty amazing the difference in quality between the two episodes. I also hadn't heard the Ray thing before... it's funny because they made him more "useless" by basically giving one of his big things to Peter. Ray was Slimer's buddy. Also considering it was mostly Akryod's idea and he supposedly watched the show it'd be a pretty big middle finger to him. |
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Post by sternrogers01 on Jul 30, 2015 12:35:38 GMT -5
UK television would show the main episodes of "Slimer And.." but not the spin-off show. As a result, the end credits (which consisted of scenes from the Slimer cartoon and had it's own art style) confused me a bit.
I do remember "Janine, You've Changed", basically a bizzare reverse prototype version of JMS's more infamous ASM story OMD only it fixes continuity and has a happy ending.
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