kidglov3s
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Wants her Shot
Who is Tiger Maskooo?
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 2, 2015 12:30:27 GMT -5
Pro wrestling is a work. The matches aren't legitimate contests. Winners and losers are predetermined. It's fake. That doesn't mean it's not dangerous.
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ZERO
Don Corleone
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Post by ZERO on Aug 2, 2015 12:52:42 GMT -5
*shrugs* It's Dana White. He's basically Vince without the sympathetic charm. I like Vince because he's a crazy old man. He was also, once upon a time, a genius and incredible businessman. Dana White is just a dick. I wish PRIDE were still around. Worked fights, Yakuza involvement and whatever other weirdness aside, that s**t was entertaining. I've tried with UFC, it bores me more often than it grips me.
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SAJ Forth
Wade Wilson
Jamaican WCF Crazy!
Half Man-Half Amazing
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Post by SAJ Forth on Aug 2, 2015 13:44:35 GMT -5
Three things:
I find it funny he disparages WWE when it took one of their wrestlers to generate hype for his Heavyweight division.
Was it really necessary to mock WWE when his biggest star dedicated a match to her namesake, who was one of their biggest stars?
There are a lot of things about UFC that are fake: Overeem and Jon Jones' drug tests. War Machine's anger management. The first 3-5 opponents of CM Punk.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Aug 2, 2015 14:00:04 GMT -5
Fake is a trigger word to Wrestling fans.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 2, 2015 14:05:11 GMT -5
Three things: I find it funny he disparages WWE when it took one of their wrestlers to generate hype for his Heavyweight division. Was it really necessary to mock WWE when his biggest star dedicated a match to her namesake, who was one of their biggest stars? There are a lot of things about UFC that are fake: Overeem and Jon Jones' drug tests. War Machine's anger management. The first 3-5 opponents of CM Punk. "3-5"? Man, he makes it 2 fights in before he decides it's "too hard" and quits. If he thought wrestling was rough, wait until he's in an environment where people are actually TRYING to give him a concussion.
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 2, 2015 14:20:47 GMT -5
Fake and pre-determined is crossing hairs
You are also looking at a guy who gets into flame wars with 12 year olds
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Aug 2, 2015 14:25:56 GMT -5
Three things: I find it funny he disparages WWE when it took one of their wrestlers to generate hype for his Heavyweight division. Was it really necessary to mock WWE when his biggest star dedicated a match to her namesake, who was one of their biggest stars? There are a lot of things about UFC that are fake: Overeem and Jon Jones' drug tests. War Machine's anger management. The first 3-5 opponents of CM Punk. Wait, their drug tests were fake? Like, the ones they got busted on? So they weren't on drugs? [8]
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SAJ Forth
Wade Wilson
Jamaican WCF Crazy!
Half Man-Half Amazing
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Post by SAJ Forth on Aug 2, 2015 14:29:27 GMT -5
Three things: I find it funny he disparages WWE when it took one of their wrestlers to generate hype for his Heavyweight division. Was it really necessary to mock WWE when his biggest star dedicated a match to her namesake, who was one of their biggest stars? There are a lot of things about UFC that are fake: Overeem and Jon Jones' drug tests. War Machine's anger management. The first 3-5 opponents of CM Punk. Wait, their drug tests were fake? Like, the ones they got busted on? So they weren't on drugs? [8] It was mean't to be half-comedic. I imagine CM Punk faces at the most, 2 "tomato cans" before calling Jarrett.
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Post by The Legendary Ring Troll {BLM} on Aug 2, 2015 14:36:19 GMT -5
Wait, their drug tests were fake? Like, the ones they got busted on? So they weren't on drugs? [8] It was mean't to be half-comedic. I imagine CM Punk faces at the most, 2 "tomato cans" before calling Jarrett. CM Punk vs. Jeff Jarrett for the GFW Global Title in 2017!
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Big Poppa Pumpkin
Dennis Stamp
I'll be in the back polishing............ my belt.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 2, 2015 14:37:50 GMT -5
first of all how dare he
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Aug 2, 2015 14:46:17 GMT -5
JB's on fire in regards to this shit. TNA's sinking, but he's standing atop a lifeboat and swinging for the fences! Also, one of your champions and flagship fighters dedicated her match last night to one of those "fake" pro wrestlers, as well as showing herself to be a fan in the past.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Aug 2, 2015 14:52:06 GMT -5
No, it's not going to damage wrestling in any way. I'll give you that much. But that's not what this is about. It's just enormously disrespectful, and you'd think someone in his standing would know a lot better than to make a statement of this nature publicly. It's not even a matter of placing someone or a group of people on a pedestal, or changing the perception of everyone outside professional wrestling, it's a simple matter of respect, something he illustrated precious little of making such an ignorant statement. Well he did eventually back up and say he respects what wrestlers do and never had a problem with them. You're never gonna get an outright apology from White but he did expand a little. There's also the fact that the only reason he went down that road was because someone else poked at him in the first place. I'm more forgiving because I think we're all guilty of what he did one way or another. If I'm in a room and my family is there watching some dumb reality show I'll be the first to groan at the first sight of any overblown manufactured drama. Like my Dad watches Ice Road Truckers, and that's a dangerous job with its own sacrifices, for sure, but I always laugh at the way they make it seem like literally every time they go out there is a near death experience. People will call a Michael Bay movie a waste of time in spite of probably taking years off of stunt doubles' lives and sometimes outright killing them. Similar to how wrestling fans are now giving Dana White shit because his main events are considered too short when the reality is it's a sport where people are beating the shit out of each other. Yeah, I'm not really expecting an apology, but the guy, especially with his experience with professional wrestlers, should've known better. "Fake" has always been considered a very offensive term to wrestlers and fans alike, because it implies there are literally no dangers whatsoever and it's as safe as a pillow fight. If you wanna say scripted, predetermined, staged, choreographed, whatever your term of choice is, use that and don't say fake, because there are unspoken implications that come with that word, and both wrestlers and fans are not going to think you mean anything else.
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The Ichi
Patti Mayonnaise
AGGRESSIVE Executive Janitor of the Third Floor Manager's Bathroom
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 2, 2015 15:09:13 GMT -5
Whilst Punk probably wont say anything, I bet Ronda's chewed him out for it.
Infact, we'd best check if the guy's okay.
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Professor Chaos
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bringer of Destruction and Maker of Doom
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 2, 2015 15:15:03 GMT -5
Whilst Punk probably wont say anything, I bet Ronda's chewed him out for it. Infact, we'd best check if the guy's okay. Ronda vs Punk would be epic. She'd whoop his ass.
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Post by Cela on Aug 2, 2015 15:17:51 GMT -5
It is... the punches are not supposed to connect, and virtually all the moves require opponents helping the person doing it. People get injured, yes. Michael J. Fox nearly died making Back to the Future 3, it doesn't mean it's real.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Aug 2, 2015 15:17:52 GMT -5
I'm more forgiving because I think we're all guilty of what he did one way or another. If I'm in a room and my family is there watching some dumb reality show I'll be the first to groan at the first sight of any overblown manufactured drama. Like my Dad watches Ice Road Truckers, and that's a dangerous job with its own sacrifices, for sure, but I always laugh at the way they make it seem like literally every time they go out there is a near death experience. People will call a Michael Bay movie a waste of time in spite of probably taking years off of stunt doubles' lives and sometimes outright killing them. Similar to how wrestling fans are now giving Dana White shit because his main events are considered too short when the reality is it's a sport where people are beating the shit out of each other. An excellent point. I was thinking to myself when reading the first few pages this morning how the most ardent "Wrestling is fake?!? How DARE you??" champions here have also most likely trashed any number of films, TV shows, actors, musicians, etc in some Off Topic thread in the same offhand manner Dana White dismissed wrestling.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Aug 2, 2015 15:25:00 GMT -5
I'm of two minds of this. One, it's kinda bad he is somewhat insulting wrestling considering many of his fighters are huge wrestling fans, and take a lot from wrestling to help build up their fights, be they legitimately hating their opponent or Chael Sonnening fights and making up problems with his promos.
On the other hand, Jim Cornette has said the best pro wrestling promoter is Dana White. WWE and TNA for instance say they're product is fake more often by what they present on television. What happens on Raw is 10 times more insulting to wrestling then anything Dana White could say.
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Professor Chaos
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Bringer of Destruction and Maker of Doom
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Post by Professor Chaos on Aug 2, 2015 15:28:22 GMT -5
JB's on fire in regards to this shit. TNA's sinking, but he's standing atop a lifeboat and swinging for the fences! Also, one of your champions and flagship fighters dedicated her match last night to one of those "fake" pro wrestlers, as well as showing herself to be a fan in the past. JB standing up for THE SPORT of Professional Wrestling. #ShowYourImpact
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Evil Homer
Hank Scorpio
I am Evil Homer, I am Evil Homer.
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Post by Evil Homer on Aug 2, 2015 15:34:51 GMT -5
I was considering buying the ppv that Punk will make his debut , this has changed my mind . Dana & crew can go screw themselves
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 2, 2015 15:36:01 GMT -5
People say wrestling is fake all the time, hell a lot of us say it on a daily basis and no one bats an eye.
I'm a bit shocked to see this level of ire over this.
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