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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 16, 2015 11:51:02 GMT -5
Erick Rowan joining Team Cena for Survivor Series. It lead to 6 months of floundering.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 16, 2015 12:08:12 GMT -5
Undertaker randomly turning on Jake Roberts.
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Post by 67 more on Aug 16, 2015 12:17:16 GMT -5
Carlito turning face by stabbing Chris Masters in the back with the uh, backstabber.
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Post by Macho Pichu on Aug 16, 2015 17:12:02 GMT -5
Erick Rowan joining Team Cena for Survivor Series. It lead to 6 months of floundering. As deserving as Harper was for the IC title, I think it would have been better had he also gone nowhere. Then, when the Wyatt Family reunites, emphasize the lack of direction that Harper and Rowan had without Bray.
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Post by hassanchop on Aug 16, 2015 17:26:41 GMT -5
Millionaire's Club. Weren't like two or three of the members feuding with each other like weeks or months prior to the WCW reboot without any resolution?
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 16, 2015 18:22:44 GMT -5
Millionaire's Club. Weren't like two or three of the members feuding with each other like weeks or months prior to the WCW reboot without any resolution? Hogan and Flair were feuding prior to the reboot, as were Sting and Luger. They also broke up Sting and Vampiro's Brothers in Paint alliance to do goofy fake blood from the ceiling bullshit and the Human Torcg match.
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Post by warriorthug4edge on Aug 16, 2015 22:57:33 GMT -5
Randy Orton in 2004. His character didn't change any, he just got jumped by other bad guys.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 16, 2015 23:16:00 GMT -5
Didn't Prime Time Players turn Face via Darren Young coming out?
After that, they started having matches with other heels instead of faces, and we're just turned by sort of by default.
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Post by eJm on Aug 16, 2015 23:32:43 GMT -5
Randy Orton in 2004. His character didn't change any, he just got jumped by other bad guys. Replace the year with "2010" and replace the last part with "attacked by people he abused for half a year in Legacy" and you can pretty much keep this statement the same.
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Post by Reflecto on Aug 16, 2015 23:34:19 GMT -5
The Usos' face turn- literally came about by the announcers saying "oh, they're good guys now" one week for no apparent reason.
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Post by somsta on Aug 17, 2015 0:22:39 GMT -5
Randy Orton in 2004. His character didn't change any, he just got jumped by other bad guys. Replace the year with "2010" and replace the last part with "attacked by people he abused for half a year in Legacy" and you can pretty much keep this statement the same. Isn't that how he turned face this year, just with the Authority beating him up?
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Post by Reflecto on Aug 17, 2015 0:36:05 GMT -5
Replace the year with "2010" and replace the last part with "attacked by people he abused for half a year in Legacy" and you can pretty much keep this statement the same. Isn't that how he turned face this year, just with the Authority beating him up? The fact he was offscreen for a few months and then came back almost changed it a bit- with the 2004 or 2009 ones, he was attacked by bad people, but was still there and suddenly good for it. By being offscreen and returned, it made the face turn suddenly "he gets his revenge and attacks the bad people", which is a perfectly cromulent way to turn face as a whole.
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Post by Ronny Rayguns Is All Elite on Aug 17, 2015 0:46:48 GMT -5
Didn't Prime Time Players turn Face via Darren Young coming out? After that, they started having matches with other heels instead of faces, and we're just turned by sort of by default. They'll turn heel by Darren getting caught kissing a girl
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 17, 2015 5:38:23 GMT -5
Undertaker randomly turning on Jake Roberts. I agree 100% . People seem to forget that when Jake The Snake Roberts crashed the Savage-Elizabeth wedding, Undertaker was the one who knocked Savage out. 6 months later, Undertaker has a change of heart without explanation.
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 17, 2015 8:49:19 GMT -5
Randy Orton in 2004. His character didn't change any, he just got jumped by other bad guys. TBF, they might have been jealous over him wrestling and pinning himself to win his first WHC.
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Post by auph10imitated on Aug 17, 2015 9:06:07 GMT -5
Havent The Bellas switched back and forth from heel to face a million times since last year when they began to get pushed, Im pretty sure they didnt even explain why Brie went back to heel when she rejoined Nikki and recently they have been playing babyface when they were heels against Aj and Paige at Mania. Confusing much.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 17, 2015 11:41:56 GMT -5
Undertaker randomly turning on Jake Roberts. I agree 100% . People seem to forget that when Jake The Snake Roberts crashed the Savage-Elizabeth wedding, Undertaker was the one who knocked Savage out. 6 months later, Undertaker has a change of heart without explanation. People started cheering Undertaker. Like a lot of people. So they turned him. face. But he was still a supernatural character. So it was never explained in promos, just in actions. Any promo to turn him face would have sucked as the less time spent on reminding people of the fact that he was an undead western Undertaker the better.
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Post by Reflecto on Aug 17, 2015 12:31:53 GMT -5
Havent The Bellas switched back and forth from heel to face a million times since last year when they began to get pushed, Im pretty sure they didnt even explain why Brie went back to heel when she rejoined Nikki and recently they have been playing babyface when they were heels against Aj and Paige at Mania. Confusing much. This- of the whole list, you can possibly justify the Brie heel thing as "blood is thicker than water", but that middle-ground for the Bellas' brief face turn while Paige was filming the movie counts in here, where the Bellas' turned face because Naomi turned heel on Paige, someone the Bellas themselves were feuding against, over Naomi wanting a title shot and never getting it [in itself a justifiable heel turn, since she beat the Bellas a few times and the shot was put up for grabs for no reason], in an attack that had nothing to do with the Bellas by any means whatsoever and also had nothing to do with the Bellas coming to Paige's defense in the process. The Bellas' face turn did boil down to "they're faces because Naomi's a heel."
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Post by MrElijah on Aug 17, 2015 13:56:32 GMT -5
I agree 100% . People seem to forget that when Jake The Snake Roberts crashed the Savage-Elizabeth wedding, Undertaker was the one who knocked Savage out. 6 months later, Undertaker has a change of heart without explanation. People started cheering Undertaker. Like a lot of people. So they turned him. face. But he was still a supernatural character. So it was never explained in promos, just in actions. Any promo to turn him face would have sucked as the less time spent on reminding people of the fact that he was an undead western Undertaker the better. Plus it helped Jake was the most evil man ever at that point.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Aug 17, 2015 14:03:30 GMT -5
Undertaker randomly turning on Jake Roberts. I agree 100% . People seem to forget that when Jake The Snake Roberts crashed the Savage-Elizabeth wedding, Undertaker was the one who knocked Savage out. 6 months later, Undertaker has a change of heart without explanation. Seems to me, that Taker had no problem messing with Savage, but Roberts threatening to hit Elizabeth with the chair didn't sit well with him. Even zombies have standards, you know!
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