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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 27, 2015 14:02:28 GMT -5
Whenever Storm posts anything, I always imagine him getting serious for a moment, even while typing.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 14:12:51 GMT -5
This thing just never gets better. Never did I imagine it would screw up this bad.
Lord. I almost wish these girls debuted one at a time to saves themselves from this.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Aug 27, 2015 14:53:20 GMT -5
I just remember Sasha being fed the line saying that the Bellas weren't sure whether they wanted to be "Divas" or "Kardashians" and I am sure everyone was wondering WHAT IS THE f***ING DIFFERENCE??? The term Divas needs to go now.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Aug 27, 2015 15:00:51 GMT -5
A revolution isn't a revolution if you got to constantly keep reminding people it's a revolution.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 27, 2015 15:07:57 GMT -5
Just get Lance Storm to write Diva angles and storylines. He can e-mail them to WWE HQ.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 27, 2015 18:49:54 GMT -5
Is there any reason for it to be a three way feud? Instead of creating Team BAD solely because they didn't want Sasha to be left out, Sasha should've been on Team Bella, that way the sole heel team controls both championships.
Alicia, as underrated as she is, didn't need to be part of this and neither did Naomi and Tamina.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Aug 27, 2015 18:51:43 GMT -5
A revolution isn't a revolution if you got to constantly keep reminding people it's a revolution. This thing is basically the wrestling equivalent of big corporations trying to be all "counter-culture" and all that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 27, 2015 19:02:51 GMT -5
Is there any reason for it to be a three way feud? Instead of creating Team BAD solely because they didn't want Sasha to be left out, Sasha should've been on Team Bella, that way the sole heel team controls both championships. Alicia, as underrated as she is, didn't need to be part of this and neither did Naomi and Tamina. Characterwise Sasha shouldn't be on anyone's team. She's the boss other people should want to be on HER team not the other way around.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 19:05:19 GMT -5
A revolution isn't a revolution if you got to constantly keep reminding people it's a revolution. A revolution from the top down never made sense in the first place.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Aug 27, 2015 19:09:24 GMT -5
The most mind blowing thing in all this is that nearly everyone has said the same thing. the Dirt sheets, people on here, Lace Storm has all identified the same exact problem.
Yet, despite it being obvious to everyone in here the only ones that appear not to get it are the WWE writers which is just baffling on how inept they have been on such an easy story line.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Aug 27, 2015 19:32:28 GMT -5
The most mind blowing thing in all this is that nearly everyone has said the same thing. the Dirt sheets, people on here, Lace Storm has all identified the same exact problem. Yet, despite it being obvious to everyone in here the only ones that appear not to get it are the WWE writers which is just baffling on how inept they have been on such an easy story line. See: Invasion It's not rare, it's not new, but it's just as completely unfortunate. Tell you what, WWE.... you can have Eva Marie on the main roster, she can feud with Nikki for the next year and a half having shit-tacular, piss-break matches, they can even call it the Diva Revolution. Vince and Kevin Dunn can sit in back, pat themselves on the back and say they're revolutionizing the women's wrestling industry while capitalizing on Total Divas..... go ahead, have fun. See if I f***ing care. Just give us back Charlotte, Becky and Sasha in NXT. They will continue to do what they do best, they will build and cement their legacy, they will become the new pantheon of women wrestlers and, along with Bayley, inspire young girls to become legitimate wrestlers and to blur the line from "men's wrestling" and "women's wrestling" to just plain "wrestling." But go ahead, WWE, create your entertainment, let the E! fanatics have their Total Divas storyline and be just fine with that. Because, while your Divas division will only be remembered for what happened to correspond with Season Whatever of Total Divas.... NXT will be creating wrestling matches, for wrestling fans, who will talk about, debate, and reminisce about for years to come.
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Post by Catchphrase! on Aug 27, 2015 19:45:10 GMT -5
The most mind blowing thing in all this is that nearly everyone has said the same thing. the Dirt sheets, people on here, Lace Storm has all identified the same exact problem. Yet, despite it being obvious to everyone in here the only ones that appear not to get it are the WWE writers which is just baffling on how inept they have been on such an easy story line. It's sad how the oblivious nature of the WWE seems a constant. In addition to Lance Storm (and Foley just a week prior), Batista, New Day, and Paul Heyman have all shared commentary that confirmed the existence of a disconnect between the WWE and its fanbase. I just hope the angle can be salvaged, like the aforementioned examples.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Aug 27, 2015 19:49:46 GMT -5
The most mind blowing thing in all this is that nearly everyone has said the same thing. the Dirt sheets, people on here, Lace Storm has all identified the same exact problem. Yet, despite it being obvious to everyone in here the only ones that appear not to get it are the WWE writers which is just baffling on how inept they have been on such an easy story line. Everyone on the planet knew a month in advance that having Roman win the Rumble was gonna backfire, but they just doubled down with succotash and magic beans. Everyone knew having Batista win the Rumble would backfire, including Batista himself!This is not a company that takes advice well.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Aug 27, 2015 20:31:24 GMT -5
The most mind blowing thing in all this is that nearly everyone has said the same thing. the Dirt sheets, people on here, Lace Storm has all identified the same exact problem. Yet, despite it being obvious to everyone in here the only ones that appear not to get it are the WWE writers which is just baffling on how inept they have been on such an easy story line. Everyone on the planet knew a month in advance that having Roman win the Rumble was gonna backfire, but they just doubled down with succotash and magic beans. Everyone knew having Batista win the Rumble would backfire, including Batista himself!This is not a company that takes advice well. Even Roman, who is still pretty green, said he expected a backlash (just not one that bad). Whenever young wrestlers who are very new to the business can sense something wrong and creative can't then you have a serious problem. The other thing that gets me is that Jimmy Jacobs is on the writing team. Jimmy had a great angle with Lacey and was around some great angles with female talent. I just can't believe that he isn't aware of how to book credible women due to his experiences. Just makes me come to the conclusion that Vince and Dunn are the ones who are stuck in the "divas" mindset. It also gives credibility to the idea that creative is actually quite good but Dunn kills a lot of their good angles.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 27, 2015 20:54:05 GMT -5
The writers get it. They know what isn't going to work.
The problem is Vince. You could have the best idea in the world. If he disagrees, or wants to change it, it will turn to shit.
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Post by HMARK Center on Aug 27, 2015 22:49:38 GMT -5
Yeah "diva" became a thing in modern lexicon as a negative for discussing spoiled music artists who wanted brown M&Ms picked out of their bowls. Then a decade later that Beyonce song to "empower" it or whatever. I agree with every word Storm said there pesonally. Off topic, but I actually saw a pretty fascinating article recently about the whole "I want a bowl of only blue M&Ms waiting for me in my dressing room" thing: turns out it's a trick that band and performer's managers use to see if a venue they're booked at is 100% reliable in terms of not just pampering their acts, but also in just about everything else they do. For example, the article talked about a particular venue and drew a connection between that venue not going along with a silly, stupid request like the M&Ms bowl or whatever, and that venue also being lackadaisical about properly setting up the stage and pyrotechnics for the actual performance. Meanwhile, the venues that take care of the stupid stuff? They also get the important things right. This way, managers learn which venues to trust, and which ones to actively seek out bookings with. Sorry, again, off topic, but I've spent my life since about age 10 wondering about that.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 27, 2015 22:52:10 GMT -5
Yeah "diva" became a thing in modern lexicon as a negative for discussing spoiled music artists who wanted brown M&Ms picked out of their bowls. Then a decade later that Beyonce song to "empower" it or whatever. I agree with every word Storm said there pesonally. Off topic, but I actually saw a pretty fascinating article recently about the whole "I want a bowl of only blue M&Ms waiting for me in my dressing room" thing: turns out it's a trick that band and performer's managers use to see if a venue they're booked at is 100% reliable in terms of not just pampering their acts, but also in just about everything else they do. For example, the article talked about a particular venue and drew a connection between that venue not going along with a silly, stupid request like the M&Ms bowl or whatever, and that venue also being lackadaisical about properly setting up the stage and pyrotechnics for the actual performance. Meanwhile, the venues that take care of the stupid stuff? They also get the important things right. This way, managers learn which venues to trust, and which ones to actively seek out bookings with. Sorry, again, off topic, but I've spent my life since about age 10 wondering about that. This is fascinating sounding, do you know where you found this?
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 27, 2015 23:09:18 GMT -5
Yeah "diva" became a thing in modern lexicon as a negative for discussing spoiled music artists who wanted brown M&Ms picked out of their bowls. Then a decade later that Beyonce song to "empower" it or whatever. I agree with every word Storm said there pesonally. Off topic, but I actually saw a pretty fascinating article recently about the whole "I want a bowl of only blue M&Ms waiting for me in my dressing room" thing: turns out it's a trick that band and performer's managers use to see if a venue they're booked at is 100% reliable in terms of not just pampering their acts, but also in just about everything else they do. For example, the article talked about a particular venue and drew a connection between that venue not going along with a silly, stupid request like the M&Ms bowl or whatever, and that venue also being lackadaisical about properly setting up the stage and pyrotechnics for the actual performance. Meanwhile, the venues that take care of the stupid stuff? They also get the important things right. This way, managers learn which venues to trust, and which ones to actively seek out bookings with. Sorry, again, off topic, but I've spent my life since about age 10 wondering about that. But on the other hand, yknow, venues probably don't staff/budget for M and M picker, and that kind of thing would reasonably take resources away from the essential things.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Aug 27, 2015 23:11:19 GMT -5
Yeah "diva" became a thing in modern lexicon as a negative for discussing spoiled music artists who wanted brown M&Ms picked out of their bowls. Then a decade later that Beyonce song to "empower" it or whatever. I agree with every word Storm said there pesonally. Off topic, but I actually saw a pretty fascinating article recently about the whole "I want a bowl of only blue M&Ms waiting for me in my dressing room" thing: turns out it's a trick that band and performer's managers use to see if a venue they're booked at is 100% reliable in terms of not just pampering their acts, but also in just about everything else they do. For example, the article talked about a particular venue and drew a connection between that venue not going along with a silly, stupid request like the M&Ms bowl or whatever, and that venue also being lackadaisical about properly setting up the stage and pyrotechnics for the actual performance. Meanwhile, the venues that take care of the stupid stuff? They also get the important things right. This way, managers learn which venues to trust, and which ones to actively seek out bookings with. Sorry, again, off topic, but I've spent my life since about age 10 wondering about that. As a guy who used to deal with these contracts and demand riders, with way out there stuff I always just noted it on the contract crossed it out. And told them I wasn't doing it. Which is something they fully expect.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Aug 27, 2015 23:14:01 GMT -5
A revolution isn't a revolution if you got to constantly keep reminding people it's a revolution. But how will the audience know there's a revolution if you don't constantly tell them? The revolution will not be televised.
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