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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 19:52:04 GMT -5
I really don't understand why anybody would be okay with Sting ending Rollins' reign. Basically... 1. I think it'd be a nice gesture and moment. 2. It'd be a logical way to go about building up Triple H / Rollins and turning him face. 3. Sting needs a good win after losing at Mania. 4. I'd settle for just about anybody ending Rollins' reign at this point. 5. Sheamus would probably take the title almost immediately after anyway.
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Post by Palmer on Aug 25, 2015 20:02:05 GMT -5
I really don't understand why anybody would be okay with Sting ending Rollins' reign. Basically... 1. I think it'd be a nice gesture and moment. 2. It'd be a logical way to go about building up Triple H / Rollins and turning him face. 3. Sting needs a good win after losing at Mania. 4. I'd settle for just about anybody ending Rollins' reign at this point. 5. Sheamus would probably take the title almost immediately after anyway. My problems with that are basically: 1)Sure, it'd be a nice gesture, but so would Sting going over at Wrestlemania. If he didn't get it there, he shouldn't get it here. Give him a big win at WM 32 2)There are many ways you can build that without giving the belt to a 56 year old part timer. 3)Good win, yes, title win? No. 4)I would settle for one that made sense. Sting doesn't. 5)Probably my biggest problem with it, I don't want this Sheamus as champion
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Post by abjordans on Aug 25, 2015 20:55:09 GMT -5
I don't understand how Sting getting in really good shape and challenging Rollins for the belt isn't looked at as awesome universally. So e-fedish. Why are wrestling fans so obsessed with only young guys doing anything? I have never understood that mentality. Should be about who is awesome.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 25, 2015 20:58:12 GMT -5
From what I saw, he and Hunter were actually pretty good together before all the dumb shenanigans (mainly the nWo helping Sting. f*** that noise).
A lot of crying because Sting old.
A lot of crying.
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Post by percymania on Aug 25, 2015 21:34:17 GMT -5
I think it's a silly idea, but I could see them doing it. With Sheamus cashing in right after. Since Seth won the US title, I think his days as WWE champ are numbered.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 25, 2015 23:36:58 GMT -5
I don't understand how Sting getting in really good shape and challenging Rollins for the belt isn't looked at as awesome universally. So e-fedish. Why are wrestling fans so obsessed with only young guys doing anything? I have never understood that mentality. Should be about who is awesome. Okay then who puts on awesome matches in 2015, Rollins or Sting?
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 25, 2015 23:38:34 GMT -5
Around this time last year, I'd have never in a million years be able to predict a scenario where Sting wins the WWE title and Sheamus cashes in on him, but that's exactly what's happening.
Holy shit. What is WWE?
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 25, 2015 23:40:31 GMT -5
From what I saw, he and Hunter were actually pretty good together before all the dumb shenanigans (mainly the nWo helping Sting. f*** that noise). A lot of crying because Sting old. A lot of crying. Yeah, my apologies, I am just surprised that so many people seem into the idea of Sting taking the title from Seth, because I figured this board generally regarded putting aged part-timers over young stars/potential stars as a huge symptom of what's wrong with the company. Totally cool with anyone thinking its a good idea, a little surprised but it is what it is. Maybe they'll have a cool feud, who knows. If anyone can get a great match out of Sting in 2015 it's Seth, I guess.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 25, 2015 23:48:21 GMT -5
From what I saw, he and Hunter were actually pretty good together before all the dumb shenanigans (mainly the nWo helping Sting. f*** that noise). A lot of crying because Sting old. A lot of crying. Yeah, my apologies, I am just surprised that so many people seem into the idea of Sting taking the title from Seth, because I figured this board generally regarded putting aged part-timers over young stars/potential stars as a huge symptom of what's wrong with the company. Totally cool with anyone thinking its a good idea, a little surprised but it is what it is. Maybe they'll have a cool feud, who knows. If anyone can get a great match out of Sting in 2015 it's Seth, I guess. WWE's number one problem is booking. Brock's title reign was booked very well. If Sting were to win the belt, he'd be around more than Brock, and hold onto it much shorter. I don't see a problem with it at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 23:50:52 GMT -5
I don't understand how Sting getting in really good shape and challenging Rollins for the belt isn't looked at as awesome universally. So e-fedish. Why are wrestling fans so obsessed with only young guys doing anything? I have never understood that mentality. Should be about who is awesome. Okay then who puts on awesome matches in 2015, Rollins or Sting? The guy who wasn't in two consecutive boring ass matches with Ambrose or a terrible slog of a cage match with Orton?
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Post by Raskovnik on Aug 25, 2015 23:55:28 GMT -5
They booked themselves into a serious corner by having Steve lose at Wrestlemania and since the company doesn't book even 24 hours in advance it's coming back to bite them, hard. Holy shit that loss was so stupid, completely indefensible, and another loss would ruin him for me. Even more than they already have. Yet it does Rollins NO favors if he loses here himself.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Aug 26, 2015 0:03:01 GMT -5
They booked themselves into a serious corner by having Steve lose at Wrestlemania and since the company doesn't book even 24 hours in advance it's coming back to bite them, hard. Holy shit that loss was so stupid, completely indefensible, and another loss would ruin him for me. Even more than they already have. Yet it does Rollins NO favors if he loses here himself. Rollins reign after the first defense against Ambrose hasn't been a favor. It's time to break up the monotony. A 1 month reign with Sting as a transitional champ doesn't hurt him as much as you're thinking it will.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Aug 26, 2015 0:04:04 GMT -5
Okay then who puts on awesome matches in 2015, Rollins or Sting? The guy who wasn't in two consecutive boring ass matches with Ambrose or a terrible slog of a cage match with Orton? Okay, there is really no point in me replying to this, if you regard Sting as a better wrestler than Rollins in 2015 then that's cool. I hope they have a great match at the PPV, regardless. I haven't enjoyed Sting's work in like over a decade which is why I dislike the idea of him taking the title from Rollins. There's no point in discussing it further.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 0:07:15 GMT -5
The guy who wasn't in two consecutive boring ass matches with Ambrose or a terrible slog of a cage match with Orton? Okay, there is really no point in me replying to this, if you regard Sting as a better wrestler than Rollins in 2015 then that's cool. I hope they have a great match at the PPV, regardless. I haven't enjoyed Sting's work in like over a decade which is why I dislike the idea of him taking the title from Rollins. There's no point in discussing it further. Well, yeah, obviously Rollins is the better athlete and wrestler. My point was 1), partially a joke, and 2), more that Sting has had one match that went over very well up until the ending and even then he looked great in and Rollins hasn't exactly been firing on all cylinders all the time this year, so I wouldn't be acting like he's completely out of Sting's league. Plus, I mean, if Sting does win the title then, at most, he'll have it for the duration of one or two title defenses then a Brogue Kick. Not much harm in that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 0:12:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't want Sting to win the title. Sting vs. Triple H was fine but it also carried a lot of smoke and mirrors and Sting still looked pretty rough by the end of it. The thing that bothers me most about this is that they had Sting shake Triple H's hand even though that match was about as unfair as a fight could get, and now here he is getting in Triple H's shit again, doesn't make any sense.
That being said I think the match should be pretty fun, Rollins will be flying all over the place and I'm sure he'll make Sting look as good as possible, but I'm still not convinced that Sting can put out a string of good PPV matches as a champion, he's good enough for one offs.
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Post by doinkmark on Aug 26, 2015 0:13:44 GMT -5
I have no problem with Sting challenging Rollins. First of all, it was a surprise! Going into the segment I expected Cena to find his way back into the building and destroy the Rollins statue, setting up the rematch. Yawn! I'm sure many of you thought that was the predictable way it was going to go too. This is something different. Isn't that what we want from WWE? A little unpredictability?
Secondly, Sting vs the WWF/WWE champion has been a dream match scenario for how long now? Couple decades? As a fan who grew up watching both shows, and as a Sting fan who wants to see WWE do right by him now that he's finally there, this is awesome (clap, clap, clapclapclap)! Rollins isn't the first guy I'd book Sting against, but neither was Triple H. Rollins is the champ now though so that's what we have to work with. From a historical standpoint this is still huge regardless of whether Sting wins or loses. He will once again boost a lesser show's sales while he's at it. No problem with that, either.
Third, I think they can salvage Sting's run with this angle. He "failed" at WrestleMania, so now Sting has to prove to himself and his fans that despite the previous loss he can still hang with the best. So he's going to challenge the best. In this case, the newly crowned double champion of the biggest wrestling company in the world. The Authority can't kayfabe erase Sting from history after beating him if he turns around and beats their guy. Meanwhile, the pressure is really on Rollins. Triple H beat Sting, so Rollins darn sure better be able to. No way is a WCW icon taking the WWE title, and if he does, Rollins is going to get it.
Sounds like a decent build to me.
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Post by Palmer on Aug 26, 2015 0:25:58 GMT -5
Legends challenging young guys is great. Legends beating the young guys is not.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Aug 26, 2015 0:30:43 GMT -5
Basing off the framework of Sting's WM match, I fully expect Rollins/Sting to have The Authority to interfere on Rollins' behalf and to be countered by the 4 Horsemen for Sting.
Sting loses the match, being distracted by the fact the Horsemen haven't turned on him yet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 0:36:27 GMT -5
Legends challenging young guys is great. Legends beating the young guys is not. Every once in awhile, the legends need to win or what's the point? Besides, Rollins is already portrayed as being completely unable to defend himself regardless of who he's facing, Sting is being treated as a serious threat and can still go, it's likely leading up to Rollins beating Triple H at Mania, and Rollins will likely have the excuse of having already defended the US title plus there'll be probably be a run-in from Cena or something in the actual match. I really don't think it'd harm him at all and not just because Rollins has absolutely zilch in the way of credibility anyway.
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Post by Palmer on Aug 26, 2015 0:41:20 GMT -5
Legends challenging young guys is great. Legends beating the young guys is not. Every once in awhile, the legends need to win or what's the point? Besides, Rollins is already portrayed as being completely unable to defend himself regardless of who he's facing, Sting is being treated as a serious threat and can still go, it's likely leading up to Rollins beating Triple H at Mania, and Rollins will likely have the excuse of having already defended the US title plus there'll be probably be a run-in from Cena or something in the actual match. I really don't think it'd harm him at all and not just because Rollins has absolutely zilch in the way of credibility anyway. Sting, in no way, should beat Rollins. Beating a legend clean gives him some credibility. Losing to him is just insulting your fan base.
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