Madagascar Fred
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Sept 1, 2015 16:07:20 GMT -5
So there's a tag team other than New Day that people actually care about? (I don't really count The Wyatt's or Ambrose/Reigns because they're not in the tag division) They care about PTP and the Dragons too |
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Post by Instant Classic on Sept 1, 2015 16:08:12 GMT -5
Well, we'd have a better division, but the WWE only has themselves to blame. The Ascension? Shit all over by the commentary team, buried right off the bat from NXT. Lucha Dragons? Never really given a chance. Los Matadores? Worked well for a time, then the rug was pulled out. 3MB? They release two-thirds of the act right when they were gaining momentum. Besides New Day, the only other team worth anything is the PTP. usos will be back soon. |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 1, 2015 16:09:47 GMT -5
I couldn't be happier that they're here. I've been clamoring for it since their TNA contracts ended.
What I want out of this is a small nostalgia run followed by some heel "Bully Ray" solo work.
New Day won't suffer at all losing any matches here, their gimmick isn't about being ass kickers, they can lose a few here during their upward momentum without it hurting them much at all.
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Madagascar Fred
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Post by Madagascar Fred on Sept 1, 2015 16:10:04 GMT -5
Well, we'd have a better division, but the WWE only has themselves to blame. The Ascension? Shit all over by the commentary team, buried right off the bat from NXT. Lucha Dragons? Never really given a chance. Los Matadores? Worked well for a time, then the rug was pulled out. 3MB? They release two-thirds of the act right when they were gaining momentum. Besides New Day, the only other team worth anything is the PTP. Praise this man Even though I kinda disagree with LD who are only on the roster since post-WM RAW, I believe they will eventually get their chances (if WWE doesnt hire Steiners, WGTT, Bashams, Hardyz.......) |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 1, 2015 16:11:28 GMT -5
Well, we'd have a better division, but the WWE only has themselves to blame. The Ascension? Shit all over by the commentary team, buried right off the bat from NXT. Lucha Dragons? Never really given a chance. Los Matadores? Worked well for a time, then the rug was pulled out. 3MB? They release two-thirds of the act right when they were gaining momentum. Besides New Day, the only other team worth anything is the PTP. Yeah they're missing the boat with Lucha Dragons especially. Kalisto is a f***ing star waiting to shine. |
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 1, 2015 20:36:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I was gonna say. I'm not even one of those "EVERYONE IS TOO NEGATIVE" types, but I'm still wondering what makes this different than any other time lol. To be fair, this place used to be a lot less passive-aggressive and a lot less focused on trying to find ways to get shots in at people without technically breaking the rules than it is now. I disagree. Passive-agression has always been arife (am I spelling that right?) here. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 1, 2015 20:39:21 GMT -5
To be fair, this place used to be a lot less passive-aggressive and a lot less focused on trying to find ways to get shots in at people without technically breaking the rules than it is now. I disagree. Passive-agression has always been arife (am I spelling that right?) here.  WE'VE NEVER SEEN HIM THIS PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE BEFORE!!!!  |
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Post by The Ichi on Sept 1, 2015 20:41:25 GMT -5
I do agree that newer, more modern gear might help. The camo can still be there, but just...something that doesn't look like you stumbled onto an early 00s Raw.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 1, 2015 22:44:04 GMT -5
I disagree. Passive-agression has always been arife (am I spelling that right?) here. WE'VE NEVER SEEN HIM THIS PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE BEFORE!!!! Even YOU end up picking the pictures where it's Ryder suffering another embarrassing defeat. |
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Post by corndog on Sept 3, 2015 13:21:30 GMT -5
I liked this board better before it became constant bitching and bellyaching. Tell WWE to start booking things better and pushing more talents then. Lol, if you told someone two or three years ago that Tyler Black would be WWE Champion for 6 months and going, and Claudio Castagnoli and Kevin Steen had a top of the card feud, also Steen beat Cena they would lose it. If you aren't seeing change and new talents being pushed, I don't know what to tell you. Really the only old guard is Cena, but he is having awesome matches with young talent, proving he still belongs here. It's not the Cena, Orton and Bautista show anymore, that everyone complained about. |
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Post by Dave at the Movies on Sept 3, 2015 21:06:06 GMT -5
I do agree that newer, more modern gear might help. The camo can still be there, but just...something that doesn't look like you stumbled onto an early 00s Raw. At least they didn't go back to the tie dye.  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2015 21:39:23 GMT -5
I'm very cool with the Dudleys coming back. They shouldn't be beating all the other teams all the time though, it should be like "they're back! can they hang with this hungry new tag team scene?" They already came back and beat the top 2 teams in the division. And sure, New Day will likely get their win back, maybe even the Prime Time Players. But in the end, if they have to put the Dudleys over first, it's a wash.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 3, 2015 21:50:08 GMT -5
There's only about 4 over teams in the division. And considering we've already seen those teams face each other a million times before, the tag division needed someone like the Dudleys.
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Post by Derk! on Sept 3, 2015 23:47:39 GMT -5
I love The Dudleys as much as the next guy, but it for all the work that he did as Bully Ray, it seems like a waste for him to devolve back into Bubba. Granted, it was in a different company and the current gimmick is the one paying the bills....
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Post by nate5054 on Sept 4, 2015 0:17:27 GMT -5
Count me as another who's for their return. All of a sudden New Day can feud with someone who actually is kind of a big deal.
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Post by Mackenzie Gorn on Sept 4, 2015 0:49:13 GMT -5
Guys somebody in here said that the Matadores were over. CALL ATTENTION TO THIS!
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Post by benstudd on Sept 4, 2015 11:23:06 GMT -5
It's a good addition but it does feel like it came out of nowhere. Like Vince was taking a dump, looked at the ratings and then thought "yea let's get the Dudleys!".
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Sept 4, 2015 11:29:22 GMT -5
If the dudleys win the tag titles itndoesnt.mean new day disappears
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2015 11:51:56 GMT -5
The Dudleyz were more an early 2000s thing, but I like the idea that people unhappy with them being here will push it back further and further to illustrate resentment. "And here we have Captain f***ing Ahab and Ishmael, here to rub their old man smell all over New Day!" The Dudleys were the hottest tag team in ECW starting around 1996. Then they came to WWE around '99/00. People aren't pushing back dates to be convenient for their argument. Even if you count only their WWE stuff the height of their popularity was a dozen years ago. Think about how many TLC matches there have been over the years, and then remember that they were in the first one. Also remember that they left WWE before Money In The Bank matches existed (or at least right around when they were invented), before WWECW, etc. They are an old tag team. People don't need to fudge dates for that to be the case. Now, there is an argument to be made that they can still go. This would be totally fine if WWE wasn't already relying on other nostalgia acts. They are getting a title shot the same night as Sting for example. Instead of the Dudleyz getting the honor of being "THE vets" they instead look like another old act WWE has dug up to try to win fans back. People that are sick of the over reliance on established stars of the past will naturally be harsher on them than they would be if they were the only vets being pushed. As for this helping with the casual audience, I was watching tv with an old man a week ago and when he saw that Sting was on the show he literally laughed and said "What the hell is his old ass still doing around?" And my mother laughs at the Undertaker for being old. So even some old southerners that grew up thinking wrestling was real want these guys to go away. I'm sure there are people that are happy to see them, but these seem to be people that would have bought a ticket or ordered the Network anyway without the legends. Obviously, I'm generalizing and everyone has their own specific thoughts about it. But this is how it appears to me at least. |
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Post by joeiscool on Sept 4, 2015 14:44:28 GMT -5
I couldn't be happier that they're here. I've been clamoring for it since their TNA contracts ended. What I want out of this is a small nostalgia run followed by some heel "Bully Ray" solo work. New Day won't suffer at all losing any matches here, their gimmick isn't about being ass kickers, they can lose a few here during their upward momentum without it hurting them much at all. Yeah New Day don't need the belts, they just need to be doing something. Anything really |
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