Big Names Returning? Los Matadores Repackaged?

[Abdullah]

This news item is one big 'may or not' so forgive the question marks. But it's worth noting that the last time Meltzer said the Colons were being repackaged, we ended up where we are today.

As noted late last night here on the website and to the surprise of few, Rey Mysterio and Alberto El Patron are not looking to come back to WWE. It had been previously reported that there have been some very vague discussions with Mysterio but he isn’t big on the idea, with neither man interested in anything unless there’s a reduced schedule as both are doing fine with where they’re currently at.

WWE has been looking at creating a bilingual Latino star to replace Mysterio for some time, but hasn’t been able to, with Alberto being the closest that they came. Vince McMahon liked Alberto because he was tall and had the “WWE look.”

Also, there is discussion within the company about repackaging Los Matadores. The report doesn’t say whether it would be a complete gimmick change or just an updating of their current gimmick.

www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/backstage-wwe-news-rey-mysterio-alberto-el-patron-returning-the-los-matadores-futures-more

I doubt we'll be seeing those two return and it shouldn't surprise anyone that Del Rio doesn't want back in. The other part of the article is a total tease for me. For reasons that are readily apparent.

There's also Kalisto. I feel like New Day blowing up on the same night he debuted has temporarily hurt his chances because WWE only runs so many angles.

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so the "big names returning" news is basically, no big name is returning? wow..

[keezy]

New Los Boricuas?

[Toilet Paper Roll]

Lol Alberto Del Rio

[RadcapRadsley]

Rey hasn't been good the last few years but I would love to see him get some sort of SS or WM retirement match eventually with how great his overall career was.

[Bang Bang Bart]

Alberto "Fired for Standing Up For Himself To A Racist Employee" Del Rio returning to the company that wrongfully terminated him? Quite a stretch.

[Allie Kitsune]

At this point, just bring back Carlito to manage Primo and Epico and run his mouth. Don't make him wrestle if he's going to half-ass it, just have him be a loud-mouthed manager to the rest of his family.

[I'm Team Bayley and Indi]

I have some breaking news... CM Punk is not returning

That is the level of this "news"

[Prince Petty]

Vince McMahon liked Alberto because he was tall

In other words, not one of those damned, flippy-floppy luchadors? Look, lucha is far from my favourite style of wrestling, even while it's impressive as a feat of athleticism, but the audience that Vince is trying to reach likes it. That's why Mysterio was a big star.

He has a Mysterio clone (but with added knees) in Kalisto, so why not push him?

Yes, the Matadores need a repackage, but that was obvious to every single person other than Vince from the moment they debuted in those roles. That gimmick sucks. It sucks hard.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Vince, buddy, not sure if you know this but you literally have this generation's Rey Mysterio on your roster. His name is Kalisto.

[Sephiroth]

Uh, Vince...you have a guy named Calisto on you're payroll right now.

[Brood Lone Wolf Funker]

Sept 4, 2015 6:59:56 GMT -5 Allie Kitsune said:

At this point, just bring back Carlito to manage Primo and Epico and run his mouth. Don't make him wrestle if he's going to half-ass it, just have him be a loud-mouthed manager to the rest of his family.

Bring that youngster Carlos Colon as well

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Sept 4, 2015 7:13:25 GMT -5 Prince Petty said:

Vince McMahon liked Alberto because he was tall

In other words, not one of those damned, flippy-floppy luchadors? Look, lucha is far from my favourite style of wrestling, even while it's impressive as a feat of athleticism, but the audience that Vince is trying to reach likes it. That's why Mysterio was a big star.

He has a Mysterio clone (but with added knees) in Kalisto, so why not push him?

Yes, the Matadores need a repackage, but that was obvious to every single person other than Vince from the moment they debuted in those roles. That gimmick sucks. It sucks hard.

I could see why he wants more the tall, handsome, leading man, "WWE version" of a luchador, but yeah, push Kalisto. Can't see why on earth they wouldn't.

Also agree that Los Matadores was a bad idea, and it was obvious from their first painfully long entrance. At least WWE realized "wait, we're pushing this over the Real Americans, who are actually getting over?" and scaled it back. But since then, when their music hits its a signal that there's nothing to see here.

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Is Kalisto invisible to Vince?

[Allie Kitsune]

Sept 4, 2015 7:40:11 GMT -5 @doge said:

Is Kalisto invisible to Vince?

He's like 4'10", so probably.

Vince hates short people (no, not the Randy Newman song [insert Rob Conway joke here]).

[Abdullah]

Sept 4, 2015 7:39:11 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Also agree that Los Matadores was a bad idea, and it was obvious from their first painfully long entrance. At least WWE realized "wait, we're pushing this over the Real Americans, who are actually getting over?" and scaled it back. But since then, when their music hits its a signal that there's nothing to see here.

What bothers me most about the Los Matadores gimmick is that there isn't even any room to standout or gain traction, to the point where the announcers don't know which guy is which. That has to be deflating as a performer. Primo saved a crucial spot at Summerslam. He wrestled for over twenty minutes with Cesaro at Beast in the East. He should get recognition for that. It's a gimmick that, as presented, could be done by literally anyone. He deserves better than that whether it's working with more freedom in the ring or even better just taking off the stupid mask.

Hell, Epico deserves better too I guess. He was showing some personality in FCW but I imagine he was signed to give Primo a new tag partner and nothing else.

["Gentleman" AJ Powell]

"Big Names returning?" "NAH!"

[A Platypus Rave]

Sept 4, 2015 6:51:01 GMT -5 Bang Bang Bart said:

Alberto "Fired for Standing Up For Himself To A Racist Employee" Del Rio returning to the company that wrongfully terminated him? Quite a stretch.

No, it's Alberto "Fired for assaulting a coworker that even he agrees was something he should have been fired over" Del Rio.

Dude he hit was a racist asshole by all accounts but that doesn't give you the right to assault them.

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Sept 4, 2015 8:02:15 GMT -5 Abdullah said:

Sept 4, 2015 7:39:11 GMT -5 @lovehater said:

Also agree that Los Matadores was a bad idea, and it was obvious from their first painfully long entrance. At least WWE realized "wait, we're pushing this over the Real Americans, who are actually getting over?" and scaled it back. But since then, when their music hits its a signal that there's nothing to see here.

What bothers me most about the Los Matadores gimmick is that there isn't even any room to standout or gain traction, to the point where the announcers don't know which guy is which. That has to be deflating as a performer. Primo saved a crucial spot at Summerslam. He wrestled for over twenty minutes with Cesaro at Beast in the East. He should get recognition for that. It's a gimmick that, as presented, could be done by literally anyone. He deserves better than that whether it's working with more freedom in the ring or even better just taking off the stupid mask.

Hell, Epico deserves better too I guess. He was showing some personality in FCW but I imagine he was signed to give Primo a new tag partner and nothing else.

Is there footage of the 20 minute Cesaro/Primo match from Beast in the East? That sounds really good.

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

You want to replace Rey, use a guy who can sell merchandise like Rey. Rey draw because kids love the masks and all the different colors. Kalisto could do that. Talented in the ring and not much different in size then Rey was.