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Post by wallabylikeyou on Sept 30, 2015 3:25:54 GMT -5
What's up with all this "Paige takes selfies, so she's a shitty person" nonsense I keep seeing? She's not allowed because she's pale, has dark hair and was briefly called the anti-Diva in developmental. People really took that gimmick to heart.
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Post by schma on Sept 30, 2015 3:33:55 GMT -5
I'm not sure but did she think it was great? I got the feeling she might?
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Sept 30, 2015 11:57:04 GMT -5
The Revolution hasn't been all bad. Longer matches means I now have time to go to the bathroom AND make a sandwich during RAW. You can eat your sandwich in the bathroom. In one end and out the other. The circle of life right there in my middle.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Sept 30, 2015 14:42:40 GMT -5
What's up with all this "Paige takes selfies, so she's a shitty person" nonsense I keep seeing? I can only speak for myself, but I find vanity to be a terrible peronality trait and Paige has it in spades. Constantly taking pouty photos of yourself with your arse sticking out is a large part of the reason women aren't taken seriously in a lot of things. Paige is by no means the only one guilty of this, but she's the one I see doing it most.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Sept 30, 2015 18:47:23 GMT -5
Seriously the only person that seems to get shoot promos right is CM Punk. Usually when he shoots he's still in character and makes sense within the storyline or character motivations. It's not a "hahahaha im clever and desperately winking to the audience for a reaction" and more like I'm pissed off and here's why. When he shoots someone in burying them at least there is some kayfabe to it that makes sense. Like Paige saying Nikki is only the divas champion and made it so far because who she is sleeping with doesn't make any sense kayfabely at all. In kayfabe Nikki was the champ for so long because she kept beating Paige and others in decisive finishes. A better shoot comment would be the only reason why Nikki is the star of Total Divas is because who she is dating because at least that makes sense or you can work an angle about it. It's like how when CM Punk buried Big Johnny Ace as a stupid corporate stooge so they bring up Johnny Ace as a dumb corporate stooge. Like we didn't have CM Punk shooting the only reason why Cena is always the champ because Vince McMahon likes him the best, no that wouldn't make sense kayfabely. Instead it was shooting on how Cena is given all the opportunities because WWE views him as the top draw and he's sick of Cena acting like he's a underdog all the time when in reality he is the corporate favorite franchise whether he likes it or not hence why he's bitter and pissed. It was an angle that worked because the emotions felt real that goes all the way backstage but you still had workable storyline that kayfabe works. Bingo, and that's why I think most people should outright avoid shooting. Especially most of the divas in this case, until they are WAY more comfortable on the mic and learn how to weave kayfabe in.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Sept 30, 2015 18:51:04 GMT -5
"Shoot" promos are one of the worse things about wrestling along with...terrible booking. That's not the only way to get a point across and it's not the only way to add an edge to a feud/story/angle.
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Post by benstudd on Sept 30, 2015 23:12:41 GMT -5
I'll take a few realistic elements in a promo over cartoonish stuff that Seth Rollins comes up with. But Shoot or no shoot, I feel like it was a good heel turn at the right time.
It gives Paige a character away from the others and also sort of make the babyface the underdogs given that they are just two right now.
She's right in that this was the right time to do it. Already last week it felt like those Diva matches meant a little more than what they usually are.
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Post by benstudd on Sept 30, 2015 23:17:14 GMT -5
Paige isn't wrong about it being stale. She is wrong for wanting to "shoot" more to spice it up. It's just as shitty as it was a few weeks ago. I see nothing wrong with this promo. She added a few "realistic" elements in what she had to say and it made what she was saying more convincing. She's right that she was there before them and therefore she felt like this Diva Revolution was fake. Hell Nikki Bella said the same thing recently. Also her crapping on the Bellas for who they know was precious.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 1, 2015 15:20:25 GMT -5
Paige isn't wrong about it being stale. She is wrong for wanting to "shoot" more to spice it up. It's just as shitty as it was a few weeks ago. I see nothing wrong with this promo. She added a few "realistic" elements in what she had to say and it made what she was saying more convincing. She's right that she was there before them and therefore she felt like this Diva Revolution was fake. Hell Nikki Bella said the same thing recently. Also her crapping on the Bellas for who they know was precious. But everyone craps on the Bellas, AJ even straight up said "talent isn't sexually transmitted". It's old ground, why would it be any better now? Like Supersweet said, it doesn't make sense, because no matter who they're sleeping with, Nikki held that belt for a record length, including beating Paige multiple times, and Cena was never seen, what does bringing him up do? Plus as multiple people have said, she's trying to cement a heel turn.. by cutting promos on the other heels. This was the right turn at the right time, but why couldn't they make it a simple "you were here to help me win. not win yourself" angle than brining in nonsensical played out shooting.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Oct 1, 2015 16:49:05 GMT -5
It got stale? "No f---in' s--- lady, do the fans sound like they're ordering a pizza"!
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Post by idislikeeverything on Oct 3, 2015 15:51:40 GMT -5
MADUSA RIPS ON WWE DIVAS, SAYS HALF OF THEM CAN’T WRESTLE
Madusa, the WWE Hall of Famer who was inducted under her WWE name of Alundra Blayze, did her own “pipe bomb” on her Facebook page talking about the current WWE Divas. “Well let's just call it like I see it.... Most of you are over rated! Half of you cannot wrestle, some just sound illiterate as soon as you open your pie hole, all so disrespectful,” Madusa wrote, adding that she threw up in her mouth when Nikki Bella threw up her hand when someone from the audience mentioned Alundra Blayze’s name during the Divas segment. She said she was the real revolutionary that started this women’s revolution and also dissed Paige for calling the NXT women’s title as “the” title.
Madusa knocked Paige for her own “pipe bomb” saying she’s not AJ, who followed her husband’s footsteps by doing her own “shoot” interview in the middle of the ring. “Oh and where in the hell is #teambad #tobusywithglowsticks and things that #glowinthedark?” she questioned. She added that as far as she is concerned, Charlotte, Becky Lynch, and Natalya are the ones to look out for. “But what the hell do I know...... I am 50, past my time and have been reported as an ugly bitch! I have three words you can call me #Bossassbitch!”
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Oct 3, 2015 16:09:36 GMT -5
It got stale? "No f---in' s--- lady, do the fans sound like they're ordering a pizza"!
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Oct 3, 2015 16:11:18 GMT -5
MADUSA RIPS ON WWE DIVAS, SAYS HALF OF THEM CAN’T WRESTLE Madusa, the WWE Hall of Famer who was inducted under her WWE name of Alundra Blayze, did her own “pipe bomb” on her Facebook page talking about the current WWE Divas. “Well let's just call it like I see it.... Most of you are over rated! Half of you cannot wrestle, some just sound illiterate as soon as you open your pie hole, all so disrespectful,” Madusa wrote, adding that she threw up in her mouth when Nikki Bella threw up her hand when someone from the audience mentioned Alundra Blayze’s name during the Divas segment. She said she was the real revolutionary that started this women’s revolution and also dissed Paige for calling the NXT women’s title as “the” title. Madusa knocked Paige for her own “pipe bomb” saying she’s not AJ, who followed her husband’s footsteps by doing her own “shoot” interview in the middle of the ring. “Oh and where in the hell is #teambad #tobusywithglowsticks and things that #glowinthedark?” she questioned. She added that as far as she is concerned, Charlotte, Becky Lynch, and Natalya are the ones to look out for. “But what the hell do I know...... I am 50, past my time and have been reported as an ugly bitch! I have three words you can call me #Bossassbitch!” She's playing, stirring the pot. Same thing happened back when AJ was in power.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 3, 2015 16:12:27 GMT -5
Madusa, shut up.
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Post by benstudd on Oct 4, 2015 21:10:03 GMT -5
I see nothing wrong with this promo. She added a few "realistic" elements in what she had to say and it made what she was saying more convincing. She's right that she was there before them and therefore she felt like this Diva Revolution was fake. Hell Nikki Bella said the same thing recently. Also her crapping on the Bellas for who they know was precious. But everyone craps on the Bellas, AJ even straight up said "talent isn't sexually transmitted". It's old ground, why would it be any better now? Like Supersweet said, it doesn't make sense, because no matter who they're sleeping with, Nikki held that belt for a record length, including beating Paige multiple times, and Cena was never seen, what does bringing him up do? Plus as multiple people have said, she's trying to cement a heel turn.. by cutting promos on the other heels. This was the right turn at the right time, but why couldn't they make it a simple "you were here to help me win. not win yourself" angle than brining in nonsensical played out shooting. They are trying to play her character as being on her own, her shooting on the Bellas was fine. Plus they needed this after months of Nikki whining and saying she build her career all on her own. All Nikki has done for months is go to the ring is walk around like a hooker, not representing the belt well at all. Saying "you are there to help me win, not win yourself" would have been cartoonish as Hell. Go knows, after multiple Rollins promos, we don't need more typical villain dialogue. Going at Charlotte talking about her dad struck at Charlotte's heart right away. Given how hard she worked. Paige also went after the ultimate truth that essentially she was the first NXT Women champ, she was the first that went to the WWE and won the title on her first night. And that she essentially started the revolution. In short, she hates the Bellas cause they represent that has been wrong about the Divas. And she hates Charlotte and Becky cause they are two newcomers stealing her thunder. Character-wise, it all makes sense. Furthermore, it does give this awful "revolution" a shot in the arm. Already, it made things better. And bringing in Nattie was a nice touch also.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2015 21:30:36 GMT -5
Read this in 2012 Dickhead Daniel Bryan's voice.
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Post by schma on Oct 4, 2015 21:53:15 GMT -5
The only other person who won the title on their first night was Gail Kim so that's something.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 5, 2015 7:09:50 GMT -5
She's not allowed because she's pale, has dark hair and was briefly called the anti-Diva in developmental. People really took that gimmick to heart. Not to mention not realising there's a difference between Paige Knight, and Raya Frary
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 5, 2015 11:30:44 GMT -5
People really took that gimmick to heart. Not to mention not realising there's a difference between Paige Knight, and Raya Frary Who the hell is Raya Frary?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 5, 2015 18:58:45 GMT -5
Not to mention not realising there's a difference between Paige Knight, and Raya Frary Who the hell is Raya Frary? That's Paige's real name
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