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Post by sportatorium on Oct 13, 2015 12:04:12 GMT -5
I might be kidding myself, but I have high hopes for this. They seem to be slow burning the turn Memphis-style. Dolph flirting with Nikki on TD. His interaction with Cena during the New Day beat down, his eye rake last night.
They can keep having him come out for Cena's open challenge to have Cena tell him to give someone else a chance etc. If they use him to get Cena off for his break & make him an Eddie Gilbert style dirtbag heel, he'd be great.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 13, 2015 12:07:36 GMT -5
I feel like a heel turn for Dolph right now would just be masking the fact that his character sucks. He's a great wrestler who puts on good matches, but Dolph Ziggler the character needs more than just a quick fix.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Oct 13, 2015 12:22:45 GMT -5
If he's gonna turn heel, he has to go full Shawn Michaels. Lennon shades and all.
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Post by Hickster on Oct 13, 2015 12:45:47 GMT -5
"Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert was such a great heel.
If Dolph is to be a tenth of that, he needs a Bobby Heenan.
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Post by lionelp on Oct 13, 2015 12:52:40 GMT -5
Well we have 2 weeks of Cena left so hopefully Dolph puts him 'on the shelf'
Although that's probably the pre requisite of a face turn at the moment.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 13, 2015 12:58:25 GMT -5
Dude sucks ass as a heel though. He was so lame.
"Look, I'm a cocky cocky heel that brags about being more athletic than everybody else when I actually am a better athlete than 99% of the roster. I also have great matches, do lots of cool looking stuff, and the most dastardly thing I do is headlocks. Please boo me though."
Nah, I'm straight, b.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 13, 2015 13:06:34 GMT -5
He's better as a face because of how athletic he is. He just doesn't have a character besides being a jackass and he's a very good face in peril. I don't understand why they didn't follow up too much on the concussion storyline and build him sympathy points. If a heel turn means a whole new different character i'm all for it. If it's still the same nah i'm good.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Oct 13, 2015 20:08:22 GMT -5
He needs to sort out his ugly hair and his crappy theme if does turn heel. No matter what he does he will still seem stale if he doesn't change those two things.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Oct 13, 2015 20:23:20 GMT -5
In an ill-advised means to differentiate this Ziggler heel run from his last, I'd like to introduce y'all to the oncoming of SRS Ziggler.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Oct 13, 2015 20:40:18 GMT -5
Pass. Ziggler works far better as a face than a heel, and he's still very over with the fans.
So I expect him to be a heel by the end of the month.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 21:15:45 GMT -5
Pass. Ziggler works far better as a face than a heel, and he's still very over with the fans. Exactly. He was born to play the scrappy babyface which is one reason why the angle with Summer, Lana and Rusev didn't work. He was doing shit that people simply couldn't get behind. |
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Post by Zenengage on Oct 14, 2015 2:43:39 GMT -5
In an ill-advised means to differentiate this Ziggler heel run from his last, I'd like to introduce y'all to the oncoming of SRS Ziggler.  |
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 14, 2015 2:47:23 GMT -5
In an ill-advised means to differentiate this Ziggler heel run from his last, I'd like to introduce y'all to the oncoming of SRS Ziggler. I honestly thought that the haircut was fine, the problem was Evan Bourne was on the roster and looked like his little brother. It'd be a little wiser now. Honestly, I think he could stand to show a mean streak if he's going heel again, or even if he's a face. I think that's part of his problem, he can take abuse in the ring with the best of them, but his finisher blows and he hasn't been able to get mean. |
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Post by Racksman on Oct 14, 2015 2:56:27 GMT -5
You're not wrong, but the fact that Total Divas and Memphis style booking was just used in the same sentence makes me want to cry.
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Post by RBD on Oct 14, 2015 8:53:29 GMT -5
I feel like a heel turn for Dolph right now would just be masking the fact that his character sucks. He's a great wrestler who puts on good matches, but Dolph Ziggler the character needs more than just a quick fix. Absolutely. I'm for a heel turn because he's lost all momentum as a face and has been straight up unlikable recently, but he needs a character tweak most of all. Just have him go full sleaze. Every now and again he shows these kind of traits and it's the most character he's had for ages. I'm imagining a bit of hybrid of old school HBK and Rated R Edge. Pair him with Summer and have her fawn over him like she did for Rusev during the proposal. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 14, 2015 8:55:59 GMT -5
I honestly thought that the haircut was fine, the problem was Evan Bourne was on the roster and looked like his little brother. It'd be a little wiser now. Honestly, I think he could stand to show a mean streak if he's going heel again, or even if he's a face. I think that's part of his problem, he can take abuse in the ring with the best of them, but his finisher blows and he hasn't been able to get mean. The Evan Bourne thing and I think since he both stopped dying his hair and cut it at the same time didn't help the look either. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 14, 2015 9:46:59 GMT -5
I feel like a heel turn for Dolph right now would just be masking the fact that his character sucks. He's a great wrestler who puts on good matches, but Dolph Ziggler the character needs more than just a quick fix. Absolutely. I'm for a heel turn because he's lost all momentum as a face and has been straight up unlikable recently, but he needs a character tweak most of all. Just have him go full sleaze. Every now and again he shows these kind of traits and it's the most character he's had for ages. I'm imagining a bit of hybrid of old school HBK and Rated R Edge. Pair him with Summer and have her fawn over him like she did for Rusev during the proposal. Hell, make him a Dirty Curty-style Creeper. |
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Post by somsta on Oct 14, 2015 9:51:48 GMT -5
They should give him a male cheerleader gimmick.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Oct 14, 2015 9:53:27 GMT -5
In an ill-advised means to differentiate this Ziggler heel run from his last, I'd like to introduce y'all to the oncoming of SRS Ziggler. We cannot have him using this look again. He looks too much like Craig from parks & Recreation  |
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Post by Old Baby on Oct 14, 2015 10:20:48 GMT -5
His theme is terrible, so definitely change that. I don't think he needs a new character so much as he needs a new motivation. The whole "I'm so cocky and I'm the best" is a personality, not a direction. It doesn't matter what changes they make if he's just going to float around in the midcard and do nothing.
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