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Post by psychokiller on Oct 17, 2015 20:03:57 GMT -5
What do you think they could have done to have his 1 year with the company be better?
I think for one, they should have had Goldberg compete in a match at Judgment Day 2003. I still remember wondering why he wasn't even booked on that PPV when it was the PPV right after he beat The Rock.
He should have won the title at SummerSlam 2003 & held it until the Rumble. Him winning at Unforgiven didn't have the same affect. Than he lost the title way too soon.
Should have had matches with Kurt Angle & The Undertaker. I know they were on separate brands, but they should have found a way to make these matches happen.
More meaningful matches, instead of having him wrestle in complete meaningless matches a lot of weeks on Raw.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 20:08:22 GMT -5
Orthodox curls while still having the bald head.
More seriously I wouldn't be at all surprised if some of the top guys(like Taker) didn't want to work with him and have to put him over due to residual WCW hate and his perceived sloppiness/stiffness.
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Post by Sam Punk on Oct 17, 2015 20:08:41 GMT -5
They should have booked to his strengths. He's a guy that runs over people. No reason for him to be involved in comedy skits with goldust.
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Post by Cela on Oct 17, 2015 20:20:33 GMT -5
They should have booked to his strengths. He's a guy that runs over people. No reason for him to be involved in comedy skits with goldust. WWE was always a smaller company employment wise. So Goldberg running over 160 people worked without skits. WWE and their 30 people is a little bit harder to do unless you bring in Ryback jobbers. Plus, all successful WWE guys have to be a combination of bad ass and jokester. Demon Kane has hugged it out, HHH had a bouncy house segment with Eugene, Dean Ambrose used mustard as a weapon. It's their way. And it was one skit. It did nothing to him. |
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Post by Instant Classic on Oct 17, 2015 20:21:19 GMT -5
Taking on Undertaker at Wrestlemabia would have been sweet.
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Post by repomark on Oct 17, 2015 20:25:02 GMT -5
I don't view Goldberg's WWE run as the complete catastrophe a lot of people do. In one year he was never pinned clean one on one, or arguably at all given the losses in the Chamber and in the Armageddon triple threat were due to outside interference.
He was World Champion and during that year he cleanly defeated The Rock, Triple H, Chris Jericho, an up and coming Batista and Brock Lesnar. He looked like a monster in the Elimination Chamber, mowing through HBK, Randy Orton and Jericho again with ease.
Still, in terms of improving his run, as many have said, I think he should have won the belt at Summerslam. However, I think a bigger mistake was not having any reference to or attempt to establish a "streak" for Goldberg in WWE. Really that was what he was best known for in WCW and it seemed a no brainer.
Had he stayed longer, streak still in tact, a potential Undertaker mania match would have been a marketing open goal, but it was not to be.
Always liked Goldberg.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2015 20:27:48 GMT -5
Goldberg run was no where near as bad as sometimes it is perceived. However, another year could of been good for him.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2015 20:29:28 GMT -5
They should have booked to his strengths. He's a guy that runs over people. No reason for him to be involved in comedy skits with goldust. I agree to a certain extent. But in WWE you have to come out of your "shell" to a certain extent. Show your not just a badass on camera but at least can bring a laugh and poke a lil fun at yourself. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 17, 2015 20:33:26 GMT -5
Not have HHH tear him down immediately after The Rock put him over.
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Post by Defrebel - White Pony on Oct 17, 2015 20:58:21 GMT -5
Should have been an angry banker named Goldberg Sachs.
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Post by schma on Oct 17, 2015 21:07:14 GMT -5
I suspect that match at the end of his run with Lesnar did a lot to diminish his run. Some of the heels who did silly skits didn't actually do them until years after they and their characters had been established. I think they should have secured him for more than a year though.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Oct 17, 2015 21:10:32 GMT -5
Looking back I thought he had a pretty good run, a lot better then people make it out to be. He was treated a lot better then the other WCW castoffs like Kevin Nash and Scott Steiner. I think the two losses to Triple H and the fact that he was only there for a year overshadow the positives. He was very protected as the two losses to Triple H (both in extremely shady fashion I might add) were the only times he was pinned, had a World Title run, and was pushed as the top face on the flagship show Raw for nearly his entire time there.
As far as what could've been done to make his run better, I definitely would've had him win the title at Summerslam in the chamber as the timing was perfect for it and his run would be remember a lot more fondly had he won there. Having him the next month at Unforgiven was too little too late. I also would've just did a straight up one on one feud with him and Kane for Armageddon instead of shoehorning Triple H into it. Kane had been built up pretty well during this period as a crazed monster heel so I think a feud with him against Golberg, who had always been booked as almost invincible, would've done pretty good business I think. Having Evolution win all the titles on that show was cool but still. They could've just had Triple H win the belt back from Goldberg at Royal Rumble instead of doing yet another Triple H/HBK match which had been beaten into the ground at that point.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 17, 2015 22:37:35 GMT -5
Should have been an angry banker named Goldberg Sachs. ...that's actually pretty freaking offensive, heh. So I'm surprised that Vince didn't actually do it. |
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 17, 2015 22:43:35 GMT -5
Basically, he should have wrestled more. That's it. He is just kind of lazy in that regard. I say this as a guy that was 11 years old sitting in the crowd screaming when Goldberg beat Hogan for the belt on Nitro. The dude had the easiest career of all time IMO.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 17, 2015 22:44:33 GMT -5
Win at the logical point in the feud with Hunter, rather than delaying it and losing a lot of the heat/interest.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 17, 2015 23:29:31 GMT -5
Following his debut again the Rock, have him kill everybody in the company starting from the bottom. Fairly quick midcard matches that would absolutely get eyes on that part of the show. Once he murdered all the lower card guys, he could do the same to most of the tag teams. Then, and only then, would he go on to take the title from HHH at the Rumble. The same Rumble that Brock Lesnar would go on to win. Goldberg stays undefeated until the match with Brock.
Had he been booked like that, there's decent chance that he wouldn't have decided that there wasn't enough money in the world to stick around.
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Post by lebuddha on Oct 17, 2015 23:39:37 GMT -5
Following his debut again the Rock, have him kill everybody in the company starting from the bottom. Fairly quick midcard matches that would absolutely get eyes on that part of the show. Once he murdered all the lower card guys, he could do the same to most of the tag teams. Then, and only then, would he go on to take the title from HHH at the Rumble. The same Rumble that Brock Lesnar would go on to win. Goldberg stays undefeated until the match with Brock. Had he been booked like that, there's decent chance that he wouldn't have decided that there wasn't enough money in the world to stick around. Brock Lesnar won the 2003 Royal Rumble. Goldberg wasn't signed to WWE yet. Maybe you're confusing it with the 2004 Royal Rumble where Benoit won? |
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 18, 2015 0:58:46 GMT -5
Following his debut again the Rock, have him kill everybody in the company starting from the bottom. Fairly quick midcard matches that would absolutely get eyes on that part of the show. Once he murdered all the lower card guys, he could do the same to most of the tag teams. Then, and only then, would he go on to take the title from HHH at the Rumble. The same Rumble that Brock Lesnar would go on to win. Goldberg stays undefeated until the match with Brock. Had he been booked like that, there's decent chance that he wouldn't have decided that there wasn't enough money in the world to stick around. Brock Lesnar won the 2003 Royal Rumble. Goldberg wasn't signed to WWE yet. Maybe you're confusing it with the 2004 Royal Rumble where Benoit won? D'oh! You're right, of course. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2015 2:33:29 GMT -5
Thrown a shitton of money at him during the InVasion to buy out his Time Warner contract, and have him lead WCW in kicking the WWF's ass and getting its own show.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Oct 18, 2015 7:18:48 GMT -5
It's almost like they ruined his run and preferred to spit on money just to show that this WCW guy was "not that great after all"
Goldberg was only good at two things: come out super intense and pumped and wreck people like a tank. So why not simply do that? He should have destroyed Triple H that one time in the chamber, beat two or three more guys in the next PPVs (say, Kane, Booker T) and put over a younger guy on his way out.
That's super simple, super efficient, but of course Triple H's ego...
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