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Post by Starshine on Nov 5, 2015 0:29:49 GMT -5
Graduating from NXT to the main roster can be a very hit or miss occasion. What worked there may not work on the big shows. Also not everyone can have that big time Kevin Owens run against the top guy right away. A lot of them have to slum it in the undercards, dance with Santino/R-Truth, or feud with their anthropomorphic rabbit.
So out of the NXT graduates we've seen in the past two years or so, who has had the worst run at getting over on the main shows? Is it Emma, dancing in the crowd? Is it the Ascension getting squashed by retired wrestlers? Is it Adam Rose and his... just about everything? Who has had it worse?
Please note, I specifically didn't include Charlotte, Becky and Sasha since I feel there's still a chance at redeeming their runs thus far (although I'd be worried if I was Becky). Same thing for the Lucha Dragons. I'm not comfortable calling them busts based on the fact they haven't really been given any opportunities in the relatively short time they've been on the main shows. Everyone else has either had a good run (i.e. Rusev, The Wyatts, Rollins, Reigns, Owens etc.), managed to recover from bad runs (Xavier Woods, Big E), or haven't had enough time to create a strong impression one way or the other (Tyler Breeze).
So, what say you? Who has had the weakest run on the main stage?
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Post by StormanReigns on Nov 5, 2015 0:34:59 GMT -5
Emma. Was pretty over in NXT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 0:35:33 GMT -5
Bo Dallas.
Summer Rae is killing it career-wise since she's always linking up with a superstar to be a valet. Adam Rose was doing well for a good while with the promotional tactics, random matches and whole thing with the Bunny on-screen, he had some major screen time, I mean the guy had a segment with Kevin Hart. Emma did ok with Santino but she at least popped up every once in a while to be in a squash match, alliance with Paige or even be highlighted a bit before she went back to NXT.
Bo Dallas is a former NXT Champion. He didn't really do much for his first few months, lost to R-Truth and then basically disappeared doing damn near nothing since. He's had a horrible drop from where he used to be. Absolutely horrible.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 5, 2015 0:38:12 GMT -5
Bo Dallas. Summer Rae is killing it career-wise since she's always linking up with a superstar to be a valet. Adam Rose was doing well for a good while with the promotional tactics, random matches and whole thing with the Bunny on-screen, he had some major screen time. Emma did ok with Santino but she at least popped up every once in a while to be in a squash match, alliance with Paige or even be highlighted a bit before she went back to NXT. Bo Dallas is a former NXT Champion. He did nothing for his first few months, lost to R-Truth and then basically disappeared doing nothing serious since then. He's had a horrible drop from where he used to be. Absolutely horrible. Bo Dallas' NXT gimmick was literally "average talent being pushed above his station" which he milked to get huge heat. He's in his rightful spot on the card. The main roster equivalent of "where he used to be" would've been to put him in feuds with upper midcard or higher guys and they just weren't going to do that. Hell even feuding with a guy like Swagger, who got buried so far he found China, he looked awkward and out of place. R-Truth beating Bo was the right call, and I say that as someone who absolutely hates R-Truth as the designated undercard face who gets shoehorned into everything. Having Bo be "undefeated" only to have him get crushed as soon as he faces someone "relevant" would've just buried everyone he beat to get to that point |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 0:53:24 GMT -5
Bo's run has been depressing. They obviously still have faith in him, given how often they have him interact with huge names like Lesnar and Sting, but he's too entertaining to just be doing absolutely nothing like he is right now.
Which I guess makes him the perfect Heath Slater 2.0 since he's much like Slater in both being so obnoxious he's amazing and in being treated like shit despite his talent. Really should just make them an unbearable douche tag team or something.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 5, 2015 0:54:40 GMT -5
Bo's run has been depressing. They obviously still have faith in him, given how often they have him interact with huge names like Lesnar and Sting, but he's too entertaining to just be doing absolutely nothing like he is right now. Which I guess makes him the perfect Heath Slater 2.0 since he's much like Slater in both being so obnoxious he's amazing and in being treated like shit despite his talent. I think Slater has more actual wrestling talent than Bo though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 0:56:18 GMT -5
Bo Dallas. Summer Rae is killing it career-wise since she's always linking up with a superstar to be a valet. Adam Rose was doing well for a good while with the promotional tactics, random matches and whole thing with the Bunny on-screen, he had some major screen time. Emma did ok with Santino but she at least popped up every once in a while to be in a squash match, alliance with Paige or even be highlighted a bit before she went back to NXT. Bo Dallas is a former NXT Champion. He did nothing for his first few months, lost to R-Truth and then basically disappeared doing nothing serious since then. He's had a horrible drop from where he used to be. Absolutely horrible. Bo Dallas' NXT gimmick was literally "average talent being pushed above his station" which he milked to get huge heat. He's in his rightful spot on the card. The main roster equivalent of "where he used to be" would've been to put him in feuds with upper midcard or higher guys and they just weren't going to do that. Hell even feuding with a guy like Swagger, who got buried so far he found China, he looked awkward and out of place. He was a former NXT Champion however regardless what his gimmick was. None of the other NXT Champions, even Big E before New Day, had as bad of a post-NXT run. Beyond that, out of all the people on this list he's the one guy who we never see on any of the shows besides being in random holiday jokes (I'm Boo Dallas Renee). He also debuted April 7, 2014, nah. There's nobody like Bo on this list. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 0:59:03 GMT -5
Bo's run has been depressing. They obviously still have faith in him, given how often they have him interact with huge names like Lesnar and Sting, but he's too entertaining to just be doing absolutely nothing like he is right now. Which I guess makes him the perfect Heath Slater 2.0 since he's much like Slater in both being so obnoxious he's amazing and in being treated like shit despite his talent. I think Slater has more actual wrestling talent than Bo though. Bo's still at least passable, and ring work is a pretty small part of the job description so long as you're at least competent. Not saying I'd push him to the moon or anything, but I see no reason why he couldn't at least be doing a Honky Tonk Man thing with one of the midcard belts or something, or at the very least being a thorn in the side of someone like, say, Cesaro instead of just being trotted out to lose to R-Truth once every couple of months. Plus I can think of a lot worse than he is who are pushed far beyond him. |
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Post by Racksman on Nov 5, 2015 1:06:33 GMT -5
Bo's run has been depressing. They obviously still have faith in him, given how often they have him interact with huge names. So did Just Joe. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 1:10:33 GMT -5
I don't see how one could think Bo Dallas has had a worse run than Adam Rose. Bo still has his will to live, had a segment with Sting, got a decent push for a few months, and wrestles on Smackdown once in a while. Adam Rose's main roster run is one of the most depressing things I've seen in wrestling, taking out things like career-ending injuries and death of course.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 5, 2015 1:22:50 GMT -5
I don't see how one could think Bo Dallas has had a worse run than Adam Rose. Bo still has his will to live, had a segment with Sting, got a decent push for a few months, and wrestles on Smackdown once in a while. Adam Rose's main roster run is one of the most depressing things I've seen in wrestling, taking out things like career-ending injuries and death of course. To be fair Adam Rose was one of the few midcarders (read. they don't do that thing where they half ass pretend he's a "top" guy) consistently on TV for a time and got to interact with celebrities. As panned as the Kathie Lee and Hova segment was, it was still a sign that they saw something in him. And the E:60 Special pretty much guarantees he has a job for life. |
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Post by slappy on Nov 5, 2015 1:24:36 GMT -5
Considering she's gone back to NXT, I'd say Emma.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 1:26:09 GMT -5
I don't see how one could think Bo Dallas has had a worse run than Adam Rose. Bo still has his will to live, had a segment with Sting, got a decent push for a few months, and wrestles on Smackdown once in a while. Adam Rose's main roster run is one of the most depressing things I've seen in wrestling, taking out things like career-ending injuries and death of course. Thing is Adam Rose 1), wasn't in NXT (in that form) for very long anyway and didn't have anything close to the level of success there Bo did, and 2), is just kind of shitty anyway. I mean, the writing has done him absolutely no favors at any point and I do feel some sympathy for the guy, but I'd be hardpressed to name a single thing he does particularly well or a reason why he should be on TV. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 5, 2015 1:27:13 GMT -5
Personally I think the worse was Summer Rae. Yeah she's used as a valet but when she isn't, she goes through long periods of jack shit, like not even being on C-shows.
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Post by FinalGwen on Nov 5, 2015 1:32:04 GMT -5
I gave my vote to Emma because she had so much potential and the main roster wasted it. Thankfully she's had her revival in NXT.
But I feel the Ascension have to be mentioned, because while the others might have been squandered, it's never seemed as petty as 'yeah, these guys are going to get squashed by whichever Attitude Era/New Generation/earlier team that still has two surviving members' and the constant burials on commentary by JBL. The only good thing that came from that part of their run is the jokes on NL streams.
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Post by Dang! on Nov 5, 2015 1:34:09 GMT -5
I'd tending towards Adam Rose because he really hasn't done anything remarkable and was stuck with a horrible gimmick from the beginning.
This list is weird. I loved Bo Dallas, Adam Rose and Emma in NXT while their main roster runs were all terrible. Bo Dallas at least had some potential to be great, but has been floundering aroung since then. I blame the retarded monkeys on crack that WWE calls writers or the senile owner for this failure. I don't know why NXT's writing and booking is THAT much superior to the awful writing and booking of the main roster.
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 5, 2015 2:53:52 GMT -5
Neville, honestly. He had about one decent month and then...
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Post by Dang! on Nov 5, 2015 2:55:12 GMT -5
Neville, honestly. He had about one decent month and then... He's still better off than Adam Rose, Bo Dallas or Emma. |
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Post by Starshine on Nov 5, 2015 3:05:09 GMT -5
Neville, honestly. He had about one decent month and then... Neville has had stuff going on at least and is treated as a guy who can hang with the midcard on RAW. It's a hell of a lot better than what the above have had. |
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 5, 2015 4:41:24 GMT -5
Neville, honestly. He had about one decent month and then... He's still better off than Adam Rose, Bo Dallas or Emma. Neville, honestly. He had about one decent month and then... Neville has had stuff going on at least and is treated as a guy who can hang with the midcard on RAW. It's a hell of a lot better than what the above have had. But none of the above, with the possible exception of Emma for the divas division, were probably going to be featured stars on the main roster. Neville honestly was and can be a big deal and their refusal to do much with him will be a shame if it continues. |
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