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Post by paperbackhero on Nov 8, 2015 20:39:29 GMT -5
Toronto, 1986, MLG, Piper led the homophobic hater chant against Adonis. My 6th grade teacher was gay. It was distressing.
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Post by Jake, The Jake, Jake on Nov 8, 2015 21:01:56 GMT -5
Telling a little kid that John Cena sucks and bragging about it on the internet (Yes, I've seen that before) doesn't make you funny it makes you sad. This reminds me of one my proudest moments of being a fan. A couple of weeks after '18 seconds' I went to a house show which was main evented by Sheamus defending against Daniel Bryan. I did the 'YES' in D-Bry's entrance (as did a few others) but I had about 5 or 6 kids in the row ahead of me who all gave me death stares so I thought I could have fun with this. I duel chanted Daniel Bryan with Let's go Sheamus with them and a kid about 3 rows back told me to shut up which got a good laugh in the section. In the end Sheamus won with the Brogue kick as you'd expect, the kids went crazy and gloated at me while I feigned my devastation. A couple of the parents gave me a knowing nod and smile and overall it was just a very enjoyable moment for me. That's always fun. I did the same thing in, like, 2011(?), cheering the hell out of the Miz and letting the kid in front of me trash talk me when Cena beat him.
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Post by Reflecto on Nov 8, 2015 21:16:54 GMT -5
This reminds me of one my proudest moments of being a fan. A couple of weeks after '18 seconds' I went to a house show which was main evented by Sheamus defending against Daniel Bryan. I did the 'YES' in D-Bry's entrance (as did a few others) but I had about 5 or 6 kids in the row ahead of me who all gave me death stares so I thought I could have fun with this. I duel chanted Daniel Bryan with Let's go Sheamus with them and a kid about 3 rows back told me to shut up which got a good laugh in the section. In the end Sheamus won with the Brogue kick as you'd expect, the kids went crazy and gloated at me while I feigned my devastation. A couple of the parents gave me a knowing nod and smile and overall it was just a very enjoyable moment for me. That's always fun. I did the same thing in, like, 2011(?), cheering the hell out of the Miz and letting the kid in front of me trash talk me when Cena beat him. By the same token of these- I've always been steadfast a great thought exercise for older fans is: Explain why you're a fan of a certain heel as if you're defending why you like that heel to a little kid in the crowd at a live show. Rules of that: -You have to explain why you're a fan of the heel in 100% kayfabe.-Only reasons from the promotion you're watching count- whatever they did outside that exact promotion in question "never happened." -You can ONLY use a heel performer's talent in the ring or on the mic as an excuse for why you like them IF their gimmick has anything to do with that talent (so think "Jericho or Punk calling themselves 'Best in the World', for example...)
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Post by JTG Fan on Nov 8, 2015 21:54:16 GMT -5
"FAGGOT!" chants were very prevalent in the 90s, Alex Wright was still getting a lot of them in 1997 as well as Syxx after he would do a bronco buster. Thankfully by the turn to the year 2000 they died out.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Nov 8, 2015 22:02:54 GMT -5
Worst I've seen were the "Eddie, mow my lawn" signs when Eddie Guerrero first came to the WWF. It's funny, because when Eddie wrestled for WCW, I never saw a single sign like that. Did the WWF go to KKK territory when it signed Eddie Guerrero? Probably because the WWF turned him into a stereotype. In fact he was throughout his entire WWE career. He just went from pervert sleazeball to lying, cheating and stealing as a life motto.
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Post by Dang! on Nov 8, 2015 23:13:55 GMT -5
One time at an indy show, one of the Local Men had a match against his real life stepson, and cut a promo beforehand about how he gets to beat his stepson "legally". The crowd went crazy. Pretty sure I left early. Damn it! The Local Men REALLY ruin everything. Was it Kane or Big Show?
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Post by jimmyjames on Nov 8, 2015 23:23:12 GMT -5
Worst I've seen were the "Eddie, mow my lawn" signs when Eddie Guerrero first came to the WWF. It's funny, because when Eddie wrestled for WCW, I never saw a single sign like that. Did the WWF go to KKK territory when it signed Eddie Guerrero? They had those kind of idiots in WCW too. On one Nitro back in '97 when the NWO was about to come out the camera panned to the fans behind the ramp and one of them had a sign that said Vince wsa Hogans slave, and quickly panned away. To his credit, when they were going to the ring, someone pointed it out to Bischoff and he went off there and took it from the guy and tore it up and started yelling at him.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Nov 8, 2015 23:29:26 GMT -5
Toronto, 1986, MLG, Piper led the homophobic hater chant against Adonis. My 6th grade teacher was gay. It was distressing. I don't mean to derail the topic, but was your 6th grade teacher OPENLY gay? That would be very brave of him; there's this unfounded prejudice that gay men should not be around men because they're pedophiles. It would also be brave of him to be openly gay in 1986 - a time when homosexuality was associated with HIV/AIDS, and there was the (false) belief that you could catch aids just by shaking hands or hugging a person infected with HIV.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Nov 8, 2015 23:35:04 GMT -5
Actually, scratch what I said about the 'Eddie, mow my lawn' signs. What was even worse was Austin's (and the audience's) response to Muhammad Hassan, who made legitimate complaints about muslims receiving generalized discrimination and got BOOED for championing the American principle that ALL people deserve a fair shot at liberty and happiness regardless of their appearance or creed (or lack thereof).
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Post by eDemento2099 on Nov 8, 2015 23:38:24 GMT -5
Worst I've seen were the "Eddie, mow my lawn" signs when Eddie Guerrero first came to the WWF. It's funny, because when Eddie wrestled for WCW, I never saw a single sign like that. Did the WWF go to KKK territory when it signed Eddie Guerrero? They had those kind of idiots in WCW too. On one Nitro back in '97 when the NWO was about to come out the camera panned to the fans behind the ramp and one of them had a sign that said Vince wsa Hogans slave, and quickly panned away. To his credit, when they were going to the ring, someone pointed it out to Bischoff and he went off there and took it from the guy and tore it up and started yelling at him. If that's true, that was hella awesome of Easy-E. He should have mentioned that in his autobiography.
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Post by Mr T L Wolf on Nov 9, 2015 6:47:49 GMT -5
One time at an indy show, one of the Local Men had a match against his real life stepson, and cut a promo beforehand about how he gets to beat his stepson "legally". The crowd went crazy. Pretty sure I left early. Damn it! The Local Men REALLY ruin everything. Was it Kane or Big Show? It was our own Local Men. Larry Huntley and Sonny Roselli. Always hovered around the main event even though they weren't great wrestlers. They could both work the crowd well and Huntley had the hardest chops I've ever seen/heard. Saw the aftermath on a trainee once and you could literally see the lines of Huntley's hand imprinted into the kid's chest.
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Post by eJm on Nov 9, 2015 6:55:51 GMT -5
It wasn't as bad as others but when John Cena as basically tearing apart Eve Torres, what made it even more uncomfortable was that the crowd was going bezerk at this. Made me squirm and wonder what I was doing watching this.
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Post by thegame415 on Nov 9, 2015 11:23:48 GMT -5
Sometimes, depends how big the people next to me are, or how much leg room by the seats.
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Post by Woo on Nov 9, 2015 12:20:18 GMT -5
That's one of my favourite chants in wrestling. Melina's character was that of a whore, sleeping with Batista so he goes easy on MNM one time. So I think she was fair game. I think it's good to get a reminder of why no one takes wrestling seriously and why the stereotype of the wrestling fans as fat, pathetic, socially inept, bigoted white trash virgins without a braincell between any of them is still valid, no matter how much us so-called "smart" fans try to tell ourselves otherwise. Not sure what exactly you are trying to say here, but okay. But I do think that chant was good in the Melina context. It was an amusing kayfabe-keeping insult at her and her whorish ways. If it was done to a Brie Bella, Eva Marie or someone else who's character wasn't a slut then I'd object to it, but with Melina's whore gimmick so I can't see much wrong with it aside from the 'crack' part I suppose.
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Post by Hickster on Nov 9, 2015 12:55:25 GMT -5
ECW show in Revere, MA, not the Mass Transit show but the US debut of the Michinoku Pro guys. The crowd was rowdy from the time they let us in the "arena". This is a Greyhound Racing Park function hall and people seemed nuts. Michinoku Guys came out and a group of guys started saying things like "AHHH GODZILLA" and "Me So Horny" they were lit, taking their shirt off and acting crazy. A few brave (and obnoxious) souls stood up and tried to start a "MARKS SUCK" chanr, yelling "MARKS!!!!" and the tension through the night was so uncomfortable. Just waiting for a fight Just be glad you weren't in Lowell.
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Post by lws on Nov 10, 2015 10:51:16 GMT -5
In retrospect, the crowd during the Smackdown with the Billy & Chuck wedding "We're going to give our vows and join in commitment!" "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!" "Whoa, whoa, hold on, we're not really gay!" *loud, relieved-sounding pop* Billy - "Now don't get me wrong. We've got nothing against gay people..." *crowd still cheering Taz - "Lotta gay people here!" i'm gonna post in this topic about homophobia, but before i do, i want to point out that sentence by tazz might be the funniest line of commentary ever. i had to look it up to watch it, and i don't know if its sweetened, but i would say the crowd doesn't simply keep cheering, they genuinely loudly pop at the line, which is nice, all things considered. and for tazz to justify the pop in that manner...i can't stop laughing. i miss tazz and his brooklyn humor. anyway. homophobia. yes. the most uncomfortable a crowd ever made me was when during the dustin rhodes promo on raw where he renounced goldust, someone in the crowd loudly and repeatedly yells "you're a faggot, rhodes!" i know i've heard "faggot" chants for any kind of effeminate gimmick, or even just...dudes with long hair (goldust probably got the worst, but shawn michaels got them, and stevie richards in ecw), and that's always the absolute low point of wrestling to me. harlem heat at hog wild 96 is another famous example of just a terrible crowd, though for racist reasons instead of homophobic ones. or anytime xenophobia is called patriotism, thats pretty horrible. hassan, as mentioned. chris nowinski-scott steiner debate, where nowinski gave solid intellectual points and steiner counterargued/quote rambo "f*** YOU BUDDY THIS IS AMERICA WE GOTTA BOMB IRAQ FOR FREEDOM THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD" and the crowd went wild. basically any times crowds are aggressively and offensively stupid.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 10, 2015 11:08:01 GMT -5
I went to the four NXT events in Ohio this year. I always got stuck next to someone annoying but it was at the third show, second in Cleveland, that I was really uncomfortable. During a tag match of Emma and Dana Brooke against Bayley and Carmella, the girls would work on the mat and these drunk dudes near us were just shouting incredibly offensive sexual remarks. "Lick her p****", "eat her ass", etc. Not only was it uncomfortable for myself and my girlfriend next to me, but there were kids nearby who loved Bayley and had to hear these things.
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Nov 10, 2015 12:15:38 GMT -5
I went to the four NXT events in Ohio this year. I always got stuck next to someone annoying but it was at the third show, second in Cleveland, that I was really uncomfortable. During a tag match of Emma and Dana Brooke against Bayley and Carmella, the girls would work on the mat and these drunk dudes near us were just shouting incredibly offensive sexual remarks. "Lick her p****", "eat her ass", etc. Not only was it uncomfortable for myself and my girlfriend next to me, but there were kids nearby who loved Bayley and had to hear these things. It never ceases to blow my mind that we all follow a business that can have drunken grown-ass men acting like that in the same audience as kids who are into Dora and shit. What a unique form of entertainment! (I should probably mention at this point that I once accidentally spilled beer on the kid in the seat on front of me at a WWE event, whoops...)
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Post by Frizzle Fry on Nov 11, 2015 10:14:15 GMT -5
I went to the four NXT events in Ohio this year. I always got stuck next to someone annoying but it was at the third show, second in Cleveland, that I was really uncomfortable. During a tag match of Emma and Dana Brooke against Bayley and Carmella, the girls would work on the mat and these drunk dudes near us were just shouting incredibly offensive sexual remarks. "Lick her p****", "eat her ass", etc. Not only was it uncomfortable for myself and my girlfriend next to me, but there were kids nearby who loved Bayley and had to hear these things. Has wwe have some no cursing rule like in chikara ?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 11, 2015 10:16:32 GMT -5
I went to the four NXT events in Ohio this year. I always got stuck next to someone annoying but it was at the third show, second in Cleveland, that I was really uncomfortable. During a tag match of Emma and Dana Brooke against Bayley and Carmella, the girls would work on the mat and these drunk dudes near us were just shouting incredibly offensive sexual remarks. "Lick her p****", "eat her ass", etc. Not only was it uncomfortable for myself and my girlfriend next to me, but there were kids nearby who loved Bayley and had to hear these things. Has wwe have some no cursing rule like in chikara ? I don't believe WWE has a no cursing rule.
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