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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 0:41:33 GMT -5
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Post by PsychoGoatee on Nov 28, 2015 0:48:19 GMT -5
Admittedly, having Cena get his win back and whatnot was a poor move as usual. But overall Owens is doing pretty well, booked quite strongly with plenty of potential.
That said, guy is better as a babyface, and in my opinion is held back by his somewhat derivative heel role. As much as I know people do dig it.
"Fight Owens Fight", much like "We Want Sasha", it goes to show even in this role the crowd respects him. And I've preferred him as a babyface personally.
So if they keep booking him as they are lately (an IC champ who beats lots of people), I say just turn him face at an opportune time and we've got a great fighting champion.
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Nov 28, 2015 0:48:59 GMT -5
Ah yes, Dave Melter.
He tends to get a little hot-headed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 0:49:16 GMT -5
Admittedly, having Cena get his win back and whatnot was a poor move as usual. But overall Owens is doing pretty well, booked quite strongly with plenty of potential. That said, guy is better as a babyface, and in my opinion is held back by his somewhat derivative heel role. As much as I know people do dig it. "Fight Owens Fight", much like "We Want Sasha", it goes to show even in this role the crowd respects him. And I've preferred him as a babyface personally. So if they keep booking him as they are lately (an IC champ who beats lots of people), I say just turn him face at an opportune time and we've got a great fighting champion. Tbh, I just posted the Owens gif as my reaction to the quote rather than it being about him. But yeah I can see what you're saying here. I personally think they can put Owens in the main event of WM33 and be fine if they keep this up. He's good. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 0:50:21 GMT -5
The WWE has been "WCW" for a while now. Way longer than WCW was "WCW".
The WWE's top stars are the same as they were in 05 (Cena, HHH, Orton, Undertaker). If Batista and Michaels were still active, they'd be right there with them.
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Post by The Yes Man on Nov 28, 2015 0:52:36 GMT -5
Admittedly, having Cena get his win back and whatnot was a poor move as usual. But overall Owens is doing pretty well, booked quite strongly with plenty of potential. That said, guy is better as a babyface, and in my opinion is held back by his somewhat derivative heel role. As much as I know people do dig it. "Fight Owens Fight", much like "We Want Sasha", it goes to show even in this role the crowd respects him. And I've preferred him as a babyface personally. So if they keep booking him as they are lately (an IC champ who beats lots of people), I say just turn him face at an opportune time and we've got a great fighting champion. Tbh, I just posted the Owens gif as my reaction to the quote rather than it being about him. But yeah I can see what you're saying here. I personally think they can put Owens in the main event of WM33 and be fine if they keep this up. He's good. They could put him in the main event of WM32 and they'd be golden. |
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Post by Sam Punk on Nov 28, 2015 0:53:02 GMT -5
Those that don't learn from history...
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Post by Paco on Nov 28, 2015 1:08:56 GMT -5
The WWE has been "WCW" for a while now. Way longer than WCW was "WCW". The WWE's top stars are the same as they were in 05 (Cena, HHH, Orton, Undertaker). If Batista and Michaels were still active, they'd be right there with them. I've always said when WWE bought WCW, they became WCW. Not to mention the D-List Celeb worship and occasional music concerts... |
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Nov 28, 2015 1:21:22 GMT -5
Admittedly, having Cena get his win back and whatnot was a poor move as usual. But overall Owens is doing pretty well, booked quite strongly with plenty of potential. That said, guy is better as a babyface, and in my opinion is held back by his somewhat derivative heel role. As much as I know people do dig it. "Fight Owens Fight", much like "We Want Sasha", it goes to show even in this role the crowd respects him. And I've preferred him as a babyface personally. So if they keep booking him as they are lately (an IC champ who beats lots of people), I say just turn him face at an opportune time and we've got a great fighting champion. I think you're right. As great a heel as Owens is and he is very, very good, I think he works even better as a babyface. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 28, 2015 1:23:15 GMT -5
If you created a list of all the things that WWE runs WCW down for in Monday Night Wars/Rise and Fall of WCW that they now themselves do, you'd be sad when you were done.
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Post by Chiral on Nov 28, 2015 1:29:17 GMT -5
It's fun to watch WWE's WCW documentaries now, even the one that came out last year (I think) where every negative statement about WCW is incredibly hypocritical as they do the same things and in a lot of cases worse now.
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Post by Dub H on Nov 28, 2015 1:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 28, 2015 2:21:48 GMT -5
Hmm... Are they literally taking that quote from The Dark Knight and "living long enough to become the villain" here?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 7:42:34 GMT -5
Hmm... Are they literally taking that quote from The Dark Knight and "living long enough to become the villain" here? Christopher Nolan must have been a huge WCW fan. |
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Post by JCBaggee on Nov 28, 2015 10:41:34 GMT -5
Admittedly, having Cena get his win back and whatnot was a poor move as usual. But overall Owens is doing pretty well, booked quite strongly with plenty of potential. That said, guy is better as a babyface, and in my opinion is held back by his somewhat derivative heel role. As much as I know people do dig it. "Fight Owens Fight", much like "We Want Sasha", it goes to show even in this role the crowd respects him. And I've preferred him as a babyface personally. So if they keep booking him as they are lately (an IC champ who beats lots of people), I say just turn him face at an opportune time and we've got a great fighting champion. Tbh, I just posted the Owens gif as my reaction to the quote rather than it being about him. But yeah I can see what you're saying here. I personally think they can put Owens in the main event of WM33 and be fine if they keep this up. He's good. I could definitely seeing Owens being this year's Mr. Money in the Bank. |
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Post by gr1990 on Nov 28, 2015 10:43:05 GMT -5
As soon as there was no WCW to jump to and a log-jam at the top of the card as a result, WWE was always going to end up with a similar kind of glass ceiling. They might not have a load of egomaniacs with creative control hellbent on protecting their spot, but they do have a man in charge who is extremely distrustful and sceptical of anything new and only changes direction when forced.
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Post by thirteen3 on Nov 28, 2015 10:48:32 GMT -5
The WWE has been "WCW" for a while now. Way longer than WCW was "WCW". The WWE's top stars are the same as they were in 05 (Cena, HHH, Orton, Undertaker). If Batista and Michaels were still active, they'd be right there with them. I've always said when WWE bought WCW, they became WCW. Not to mention the D-List Celeb worship and occasional music concerts... They even started copying their corporate culture. Even going so far as to make Johnny Ace head of talent. Conquerors copying the conquered. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Nov 28, 2015 11:18:28 GMT -5
It still astounds me that they can even DARE make the Monday Night Wars show, and then go out and make RAW the way it is. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 28, 2015 11:31:13 GMT -5
Admittedly, having Cena get his win back and whatnot was a poor move as usual. But overall Owens is doing pretty well, booked quite strongly with plenty of potential. That said, guy is better as a babyface, and in my opinion is held back by his somewhat derivative heel role. As much as I know people do dig it. "Fight Owens Fight", much like "We Want Sasha", it goes to show even in this role the crowd respects him. And I've preferred him as a babyface personally. So if they keep booking him as they are lately (an IC champ who beats lots of people), I say just turn him face at an opportune time and we've got a great fighting champion. I can't see him really being much of a face. I can see them booking him against heels while cutting the same "I'm going to bury your entire gimmick"-style promos like the one he did on Ryback, and while plenty of people would consider that face-ish, I wouldn't. |
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Post by krozor on Nov 28, 2015 11:54:36 GMT -5
Those that don't learn from history... ...are destined to keep trying to rewrite history by claiming some dumb, meaningless segment with a jeep was a huge deal. |
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