What if Scott Steiner had the Lex Luger push in 1993?

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I was thinking about Scott Steiner potential to be a massive face/heel in his earlier years and I think the right time to be pushed would be around 1993. You had people lining up to bodyslam Yokuzona, and I think Steiner was strong enough to do it. He had a gimmick similiar to Mr America and I think he could do just fine, and even have kickass fueds with Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels.

What do you guys think?

[Mozenrath]

I think he'd have probably been a good candidate. That said, not sure where the mid-90s steroid trial would leave him.

[Deleted]

He could get away with it just like how Lex Luger did.

[OGBoardPoster2005]

Only if its Big Poppa Pump vs Yoko

[Kevin Hamilton]

He had no personality at all at that point. I realize Lex wasn't a whole lot better, but in that era he was 'Steiner that doesn't wear headgear'.

[Doctor Of Style]

Nov 28, 2015 22:24:45 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

He had no personality at all at that point. I realize Lex wasn't a whole lot better, but in that era he was 'Steiner that doesn't wear headgear'.

What was his gimmick, mullet with letterman jacket?

[Kevin Hamilton]

Nov 28, 2015 22:31:01 GMT -5 Doctor Of Style said:

Nov 28, 2015 22:24:45 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

He had no personality at all at that point. I realize Lex wasn't a whole lot better, but in that era he was 'Steiner that doesn't wear headgear'.

What was his gimmick, mullet with letterman jacket?

If I had to call it anything, it's "Ric's brother".

I mean, he was GREAT in the ring at that point, but there wasn't a character there.

[Doctor Of Style]

Nov 28, 2015 22:34:23 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Nov 28, 2015 22:31:01 GMT -5 Doctor Of Style said:

What was his gimmick, mullet with letterman jacket?

If I had to call it anything, it's "Ric's brother".

I mean, he was GREAT in the ring at that point, but there wasn't a character there.

Yeah, he was bland as hell back then.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

In the early 90s he was getting a push. Jim Herd wanted him to be champion. Then he had a match with Ric Flair in a Clash of Champions, that was so bad that his push got squashed. Steiner always resented him for that, maybe that's why he shot on Flair cutting that promo and threatening him behind the scenes.

Kevin Sullivan said that in the match Flair didn't gave Scott enough, like implying that Flair screwed him. Lance Storm also said that he watched the match and that in his opinion Flair screwed spots on purpose.

[toodarkmark]

He had the same personality, it's just Vince didn't want him showing it. He was pushing them as All American college types, and didn't exploit Scotts intensity or Ricks comedic stupidity.

I personally think had they been agreeable to a tag team split and swore off Japan, Scott could have been up there with Michaels and Bret, having amazing matches. But Scott has always had issues with authority, so Japan as a tag was just a better fit in the mid 90s.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 29, 2015 4:57:32 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

In the early 90s he was getting a push. Jim Herd wanted him to be champion. Then he had a match with Ric Flair in a Clash of Champions, that was so bad that his push got squashed. Steiner always resented him for that, maybe that's why he shot on Flair cutting that promo and threatening him behind the scenes.

Kevin Sullivan said that in the match Flair didn't gave Scott enough, like implying that Flair screwed him. Lance Storm also said that he watched the match and that in his opinion Flair screwed spots on purpose.

More or less, yeah, seemingly, Scott was just the casualty of the Herd vs Flair feud. Flair was put in a difficult position of "make your replacement look good" and dragged his heels as much as he could to prevent that. Steiner rightfully took offense to that, but I don't think Flair was trying to f*** him over, so much as to protect himself, given Herd and Flair's difficulties grew to be too much and Herd wanted to even f*** him on pay, leading to the "Real World Champion" WWF mess. Scott was in the crossfire, and unfortunately for him, it set him back years as a singles guy.

[The Dark Order Inferno]

It would have sucked. The matches would have been better than Luger's, however, Steiner is in the same boat as Nash, his kind of charisma is not the kind that Vince knows how to handle. Steiner would be smiling, slapping hands and blander than a vaseline on whitebread sandwich, only without Rick by his side.

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He would have donned his American flag singlet and been "the All-American" Scott Steiner or something equally as lame.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Nov 29, 2015 7:09:11 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Nov 29, 2015 4:57:32 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

In the early 90s he was getting a push. Jim Herd wanted him to be champion. Then he had a match with Ric Flair in a Clash of Champions, that was so bad that his push got squashed. Steiner always resented him for that, maybe that's why he shot on Flair cutting that promo and threatening him behind the scenes.

Kevin Sullivan said that in the match Flair didn't gave Scott enough, like implying that Flair screwed him. Lance Storm also said that he watched the match and that in his opinion Flair screwed spots on purpose.

More or less, yeah, seemingly, Scott was just the casualty of the Herd vs Flair feud. Flair was put in a difficult position of "make your replacement look good" and dragged his heels as much as he could to prevent that. Steiner rightfully took offense to that, but I don't think Flair was trying to f*** him over, so much as to protect himself, given Herd and Flair's difficulties grew to be too much and Herd wanted to even f*** him on pay, leading to the "Real World Champion" WWF mess. Scott was in the crossfire, and unfortunately for him, it set him back years as a singles guy.

I wonder why Steiner never beat Flair up seeing as how he was such a hot head that he would get in fights with little provocation.

I'll always side with Steiner in this feud seeing that Flair screwed him over of getting a better spot on the card.

[Deleted]

You could have held off on the Backlund heel turn for a bit and had Bob mentor Scott. Steiner does his own stuff and Bob would have a reason to snap at how this New Generation won't heed to authority figures.

[Mozenrath]

Nov 29, 2015 13:18:41 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

Nov 29, 2015 7:09:11 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

More or less, yeah, seemingly, Scott was just the casualty of the Herd vs Flair feud. Flair was put in a difficult position of "make your replacement look good" and dragged his heels as much as he could to prevent that. Steiner rightfully took offense to that, but I don't think Flair was trying to f*** him over, so much as to protect himself, given Herd and Flair's difficulties grew to be too much and Herd wanted to even f*** him on pay, leading to the "Real World Champion" WWF mess. Scott was in the crossfire, and unfortunately for him, it set him back years as a singles guy.

I wonder why Steiner never beat Flair up seeing as how he was such a hot head that he would get in fights with little provocation.

I'll always side with Steiner in this feud seeing that Flair screwed him over of getting a better spot on the card.

It's a shame that Flair couldn't have just put him over, if he'd have known he was just going to go to WWF before too long, anyway, or that Herd would get replaced by Watts.

[Tony Schiavontay]

If he had, everybody would have knooooooowwwn or at least would have wanted to knooooow.

[karl100589]

If he did get the Luger push against Yoko we would have heard this a lot earlier:
youtu.be/dZqo4OZ0Pqs

[auph10imitated]

In hinsight he was a very good candidate, but to be fair back in those days with tag teams like LOD, Steiners etc they just come as an automatic package, they were so well known long terms tag teams its was so rare for them to get singles runs, Bret and Shawn were rare cases, at the time it really wouldnt have even crossed my mind

[2coldMack is even more baffled]

Nov 28, 2015 22:34:23 GMT -5 Kevin Hamilton said:

Nov 28, 2015 22:31:01 GMT -5 Doctor Of Style said:

What was his gimmick, mullet with letterman jacket?

If I had to call it anything, it's "Ric's brother".

I mean, he was GREAT in the ring at that point, but there wasn't a character there.

Yeah, "Big Poppa Pump" kind of erased that perceptions, but people forget that for YEARS, even though Scott was better in the ring, Rick was thought of as "the more interesting" Steiner brother, and that if the team ever broke up, he'd be the guy on the upward trajectory, not Scott.