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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 2:03:24 GMT -5
I always wondered what Pittsburgh Penguins be like if they drafted Jonathan Toews instead of Jordan Steal? Would they be a dynasty franchise? Would Chicago be a dominant franchise or a respected franchise or a cess pool franchise? Hell what if Pittsburgh chose Backstrom and Kessel instead of Jordan Steal.
Hell I would normally question what if St. Louis picked one of those three instead of Erik Johnson but they did quite well flipping him into Shattenkirk who is an elite franchise defenseman
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 27, 2016 9:05:25 GMT -5
Biggest that doubles as a What If Draft and Trade:
According to Hakeem Olajuwon's book, during the 1984 draft, the Rockets and Portland Trailblazers were dangerously close to a deal where Ralph Sampson would go to Portland in exchange for Clyde Drexler and the number 2 pick (which Houston would have used on Michael Jordan.)
Mother of God.
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Post by karl100589 on Jan 27, 2016 19:01:51 GMT -5
NFL: What if the Colts drafted Ryan Leaf and the Chargers took Payton Manning.
What if the Jets chose Marino over Ken O'Brien
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jan 27, 2016 19:16:19 GMT -5
Biggest that doubles as a What If Draft and Trade: According to Hakeem Olajuwon's book, during the 1984 draft, the Rockets and Portland Trailblazers were dangerously close to a deal where Ralph Sampson would go to Portland in exchange for Clyde Drexler and the number 2 pick (which Houston would have used on Michael Jordan.) Mother of God. Jordan would have literally killed Drexler if he took more than 10 shots a game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2016 20:26:53 GMT -5
Two on Lew Alcindor:
1) What if the Phoenix Suns won the coin flip instead of Milwaukee for the #1 pick?
Next one involves a bidding war between the ABA & NBA. Alcindor said he will meet with each team once and that's all. Give me your best offer. The Nets drew up a certified check for a million dollars. They figured this was a way to cut through the bull.
2) What if the New York Nets actually laid the $1 Million certified check they had in front of Lew like they intended? (Instead of laying the check down, then-ABA commissioner George Mikan offered 4 years/$250,000, expecting him to haggle. Milwaukee's offer was similar, so he went there.)
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Post by Cyno on Jan 27, 2016 21:50:38 GMT -5
What if the Jets had a history of successful draft picks instead of some of the most mind-boggling blunders ever made?
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Jan 27, 2016 22:38:28 GMT -5
Biggest that doubles as a What If Draft and Trade: According to Hakeem Olajuwon's book, during the 1984 draft, the Rockets and Portland Trailblazers were dangerously close to a deal where Ralph Sampson would go to Portland in exchange for Clyde Drexler and the number 2 pick (which Houston would have used on Michael Jordan.) Mother of God. So...Portland would have essentially traded both Clyde Drexler and Michael Jordan to Houston for Ralph Sampson? They were interested in trading two future HoF players to pair with another future HoF (Hakeem Olajuwon)? Houston could have had an unstoppable dynasty had that happened.
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Post by Sam Punk on Jan 27, 2016 22:54:11 GMT -5
The Reds could have drafted Derek Jeter.
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Jan 27, 2016 23:18:04 GMT -5
Here's a 49ers Draft What If?
What if...
In 2012, the Niners used their 1st round pick on Alshon Jeffery instead of AJ Jenkins? In 2011, selected JJ Watt in the 1st round instead of Aldon Smith, then drafted Richard Sherman in the 3rd round instead of Kendall Hunter?
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What if Andrew Luck entered the 2011 NFL Draft instead of a year later? Would Cam have still went #1? Or would Denver have drafted him? Would he slip to either Buffalo, Arizona, or Tennessee?
What would've the Colts done then in 2012? Would they have kept Manning? Would the Redskins make a bigger trade for the #1 pick instead of the #2 like they did with St Louis to get RGIII? If they kept the #1 pick, who would they have taken? Would they have taken the plunge on Trent Richardson? Protect Manning by drafting Matt Kalil?
If they had traded with the Redskins, would they have kept the 6th pick to draft Luke Kuechly?
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Jan 28, 2016 0:24:44 GMT -5
How good are the Redskins if they don't trade for RGIII. Instead they stick with Cousins. Flip side, say the Rams draft RGIII in 2012, what happens there?
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Jan 28, 2016 0:53:07 GMT -5
How good are the Redskins if they don't trade for RGIII. Instead they stick with Cousins. Flip side, say the Rams draft RGIII in 2012, what happens there? They wouldn't have made the playoffs the next season and would've gotten a Top 10 pick. 2014 would've been pretty much the same, so they would've kept the 2nd pick, which Khalil Mack would've made sense for them. Defense would've been slightly improved, but overall results would be the same.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jan 28, 2016 1:42:41 GMT -5
The Reds could have drafted Derek Jeter. Houston had the number 1 pick that year, and their top scout (Hal Newhouser) was credited with finding Jeter. He told the Astros to take Jeter, and told them that they'd build championship teams around him. Houston took Phil Nevin, and the Yankees actually listened to their scout who told them "The only place Jeter is going is Cooperstown." Listening to their scouts worked out pretty freaking well for the Yankees. Just think if Houston had listened to Newhouser and had a lineup that had Jeter, Biggio, Bagwell, and Berkman all in their primes.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 28, 2016 2:24:24 GMT -5
Biggest that doubles as a What If Draft and Trade: According to Hakeem Olajuwon's book, during the 1984 draft, the Rockets and Portland Trailblazers were dangerously close to a deal where Ralph Sampson would go to Portland in exchange for Clyde Drexler and the number 2 pick (which Houston would have used on Michael Jordan.) Mother of God. Jordan would have literally killed Drexler if he took more than 10 shots a game. Only Problem is, unless Jordan took off extremely fast the fanbase would not be on his side if he lashed out. Not only was Clyde a UH grad, but he is also from Houston. Going against Hometown is always a dangerous fight, even for a legend.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 28, 2016 6:42:38 GMT -5
NFL: What if the Colts drafted Ryan Leaf and the Chargers took Payton Manning. What if the Jets chose Marino over Ken O'Brien I actually have a book written by Leaf's agent. Apparently the Colts were heavily leaning towards taking Leaf but Ryan wanted no part of Indy so they went out of their way to do things to convince the Colts to take Manning. Speaking of Manning and the Colts. What if John Elway agreed to play for the Baltimore Colts when they drafted him? Same with Eli and the Chargers (though I understand why Eli didn't want to go to San Diego)
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 28, 2016 7:05:37 GMT -5
Jordan would have literally killed Drexler if he took more than 10 shots a game. Only Problem is, unless Jordan took off extremely fast the fanbase would not be on his side if he lashed out. Not only was Clyde a UH grad, but he is also from Houston. Going against Hometown is always a dangerous fight, even for a legend. But on the other side, the trade only looked lopsided in hindsight- the year before, Sampson was the number one pick and marked as the greatest college player in history, while Drexler was nothing to write home about after his rookie year. Put the fact he didn't become, well, Clyde Drexler yet into the mix, and there could have been a more pro-Jordan level. EDIT: To add another Sampson-related double What If: Sampson was so widely regarded as a college player that after his freshman season, Red Auerbach tried to get Sampson to declare for the draft in 1980 to be the Celtics' number one pick. Sampson refused and went back to college (where he would have overtures to leave early the next two years.) The 1980 aborted attempt to get him to declare is doubled, though- since the Celtics not getting Sampson led to them going with their plan B for the pick: Trading the number one to Golden State for Robert Parish and the number 3 pick (to use on Kevin McHale.)
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Post by sfvega on Jan 29, 2016 4:32:12 GMT -5
The only one I really hated remembering was the rumors of the Buccaneers going to draft Aaron Rodgers in 2005, which I was vehemently against being a Tedford QB. Luckily, we drafted the guy I wanted in Cadillac Williams who proceeded to blow out his knee his 2nd year in and never was the same again. 4 coaches later, we might have a guy.....
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Post by sfvega on Jan 29, 2016 4:36:58 GMT -5
Also, the above are completely right. Clyde was a god at UH, Jordan would have had to find a way to fit in. Also, Jordan didn't really become a picky guy (nice way of saying diva) until the 90's IIRC. And Ralph Sampson was the man at UVA. Like, I don't even have someone off hand to compare him to in recent college ball, albeit wildly different eras.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 2, 2016 22:03:47 GMT -5
Also, the above are completely right. Clyde was a god at UH, Jordan would have had to find a way to fit in. Also, Jordan didn't really become a picky guy (nice way of saying diva) until the 90's IIRC. And Ralph Sampson was the man at UVA. Like, I don't even have someone off hand to compare him to in recent college ball, albeit wildly different eras. Jordan was acting that way almost immediately in the NBA. Also, he was much better than Drexler at that point.
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Post by sfvega on Feb 2, 2016 22:46:53 GMT -5
Also, the above are completely right. Clyde was a god at UH, Jordan would have had to find a way to fit in. Also, Jordan didn't really become a picky guy (nice way of saying diva) until the 90's IIRC. And Ralph Sampson was the man at UVA. Like, I don't even have someone off hand to compare him to in recent college ball, albeit wildly different eras. Jordan was acting that way almost immediately in the NBA. Also, he was much better than Drexler at that point. Jordan has always been an uncompromising guy, but his booming success and fame in the NBA gave him the unlimited clout to do whatever he wanted. I don't think it's unfair to say that he ruled the Bulls roster in the 90's in a way he didn't in the 80's. No one is arguing that Jordan wasn't better than Drexler, just that he would have a hard time pushing the local favorite out so easily.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 2, 2016 22:51:27 GMT -5
Jordan was acting that way almost immediately in the NBA. Also, he was much better than Drexler at that point. Jordan has always been an uncompromising guy, but his booming success and fame in the NBA gave him the unlimited clout to do whatever he wanted. I don't think it's unfair to say that he ruled the Bulls roster in the 90's in a way he didn't in the 80's. No one is arguing that Jordan wasn't better than Drexler, just that he would have a hard time pushing the local favorite out so easily. He hand picked a head coach in his fourth year in the league. He was always a transcendent talent and was treated as such immediately.
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