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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 7, 2016 5:00:46 GMT -5
16 Marvel solits for May www.bleedingcool.com/2016/02/06/16-of-marvels-solicitations-for-4th-may-2016-daredevilpunisher-new-wasp-and-deadpool-masacre/So once Peter deals with Zodiac, he's going to reunite with Mary Jane and team with Tony and Miles group of Avengers all to take on Regent in the event "Power Play". Mary Jane in the meantime gets to don armour again over in Tony's book. So much for Bendis' claim that the Spider-Office had "no plans" for Mary Jane. I'm not looking forward to Slott writing the mainstream version of her again...not unless he writes her the way he did in Renew Your Vows anyway. Over in the ASM newspapers, it's the end of the Namor storyline that's been running since later summer 2015: It's nice to see an MJ that still sticks by her man. Take her advise and stay on the pull Namor, you'll find someone. If it hadn't been for that whole month Peter lay down on the pier with everyone yapping away to Namor, I'd have given it a generous C+. Interesting bits were MJ slapping Jonah, Bellman beating up the royal guard, Peter defying the military and smuggling Pharus out of hospital, Namor's ecological agenda creating some compelling scenes at the U.N, and MJ offering to sacrifice her life with Peter to spare his life.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 7, 2016 7:37:05 GMT -5
Been reading Lee and Kirby's Fantastic Four for the first time finally. I was really enjoying it, but I am at issue 62, and despite taking a break to read Simonson's Thor, I'm becoming very bored with it. There were a couple other slow points that were hard to get through, but it picked back up. Am I just in a bad period for the book, or have I already read the essential classic stuff at this point? I don't want to quit if there's still some awesome classic storylines later on I will miss out on. I picked up the first volume of the Silver Surfer Epic Collection and felt the same way about the later stories they presented from the FF issues numbered in the 70's. I think this is around the time the excitement and "newness" of Marvel started its transition into stuff just being cranked out that would hit its nadir in the 70's. And it's really jarring to read all the "Not now, Sue! Go get your hair done, or fix Johnny a sandwich!" dismissals when Sue's now generally considered one of the most powerful heroes of the entire Marvel Universe, let alone the FF.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 11:09:17 GMT -5
Been reading Lee and Kirby's Fantastic Four for the first time finally. I was really enjoying it, but I am at issue 62, and despite taking a break to read Simonson's Thor, I'm becoming very bored with it. There were a couple other slow points that were hard to get through, but it picked back up. Am I just in a bad period for the book, or have I already read the essential classic stuff at this point? I don't want to quit if there's still some awesome classic storylines later on I will miss out on. I picked up the first volume of the Silver Surfer Epic Collection and felt the same way about the later stories they presented from the FF issues numbered in the 70's. I think this is around the time the excitement and "newness" of Marvel started its transition into stuff just being cranked out that would hit its nadir in the 70's. And it's really jarring to read all the "Not now, Sue! Go get your hair done, or fix Johnny a sandwich!" dismissals when Sue's now generally considered one of the most powerful heroes of the entire Marvel Universe, let alone the FF. My favorite was "You're not a fool Sue, merely a woman. You couldn't have reacted differently!" That Reed Richards sure was a good husband.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Feb 7, 2016 13:14:13 GMT -5
I picked up the first volume of the Silver Surfer Epic Collection and felt the same way about the later stories they presented from the FF issues numbered in the 70's. I think this is around the time the excitement and "newness" of Marvel started its transition into stuff just being cranked out that would hit its nadir in the 70's. And it's really jarring to read all the "Not now, Sue! Go get your hair done, or fix Johnny a sandwich!" dismissals when Sue's now generally considered one of the most powerful heroes of the entire Marvel Universe, let alone the FF. My favorite was "You're not a fool Sue, merely a woman. You couldn't have reacted differently!" That Reed Richards sure was a good husband. Wives should be kissed--and not heard!
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 8, 2016 4:14:11 GMT -5
Massive sales spikes for the Spider-Books and Iron Man last week
1. Spider-Man #1 2. Amazing Spider-Man #7 3. Walking Dead #151 4. Obi-Wan and Anakin #2 5. Invincible Iron Man #6 6. Doctor Strange #5 7. Batman Europa #4 8. Uncanny Avengers #5 9. Uncanny X-Men #3 10. Detective Comics #49
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Post by JDviant on Feb 8, 2016 5:15:04 GMT -5
Been reading Lee and Kirby's Fantastic Four for the first time finally. I was really enjoying it, but I am at issue 62, and despite taking a break to read Simonson's Thor, I'm becoming very bored with it. There were a couple other slow points that were hard to get through, but it picked back up. Am I just in a bad period for the book, or have I already read the essential classic stuff at this point? I don't want to quit if there's still some awesome classic storylines later on I will miss out on. By the time the 70's issues of F4 hit, Jack Kirby had become less and less interested in the series and thats probably why you're able to feel it. I don't know where I saw it, but I once read a terrific article detailing the decline of new characters and concepts into the series over its last 20+ issues of Kirby's run. I believe the line of thinking was he was waiting to use his original ideas in series he would be in control of, which of course happened when he left Marvel. As far as whats left in the initial run, 65/66 introduces Adam Warlock, 74/75 have Galactus, and Crystal is in at 81. I'm a F4 guy so I think they're all worth reading, but if you're feeling bored then you can stop knowing you've read all the best. 25-60 is probably the best run of the classic Fantastic Four.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 11:06:08 GMT -5
Been reading Lee and Kirby's Fantastic Four for the first time finally. I was really enjoying it, but I am at issue 62, and despite taking a break to read Simonson's Thor, I'm becoming very bored with it. There were a couple other slow points that were hard to get through, but it picked back up. Am I just in a bad period for the book, or have I already read the essential classic stuff at this point? I don't want to quit if there's still some awesome classic storylines later on I will miss out on. By the time the 70's issues of F4 hit, Jack Kirby had become less and less interested in the series and thats probably why you're able to feel it. I don't know where I saw it, but I once read a terrific article detailing the decline of new characters and concepts into the series over its last 20+ issues of Kirby's run. I believe the line of thinking was he was waiting to use his original ideas in series he would be in control of, which of course happened when he left Marvel. As far as whats left in the initial run, 65/66 introduces Adam Warlock, 74/75 have Galactus, and Crystal is in at 81. I'm a F4 guy so I think they're all worth reading, but if you're feeling bored then you can stop knowing you've read all the best. 25-60 is probably the best run of the classic Fantastic Four. I already got Masterworks Vol 7 which goes up to issue 71. I will definitely check out the Adam Warlock intro. I will certainly be checking out the Byrne stuff though. I never was a big FF fan, but reading these for historical purposes also made me into a huge fan of the Thing.
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Post by JDviant on Feb 8, 2016 18:09:45 GMT -5
I will certainly be checking out the Byrne stuff though. I never was a big FF fan, but reading these for historical purposes also made me into a huge fan of the Thing. I LOVE John Byrne. His run isn't perfect, but it does so many cool things. I know they're like 40 years old now but I don't want to spoil stuff just in case you're not versed in the intricacies of the continuity. I will say one of the highlights is a short story of Trapster trying to break into the F4 headquarters XD After Byrne you have the non-essential but awesome Walt Simonson run, now easily available in 'Fantastic Four Epic Collection: Into the Time Stream'. Mark Waid's run would be the next actually ESSENTIAL F4, because he captures the perfect Reed Richards. Too many people don't get Reed write, but the ones that do make him one of the best characters in comics. That run is collected in a variety of different formats, but I'm hoping for an omnibus eventually.
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Post by Crimson on Feb 8, 2016 19:37:23 GMT -5
Massive sales spikes for the Spider-Books and Iron Man last week 1. Spider-Man #1 2. Amazing Spider-Man #7 3. Walking Dead #151 4. Obi-Wan and Anakin #2 5. Invincible Iron Man #6 6. Doctor Strange #5 7. Batman Europa #4 8. Uncanny Avengers #5 9. Uncanny X-Men #3 10. Detective Comics #49 I was pleasantly surprised by how well Miles' #1 sold on Comixology. I'm pretty sure once it stablizes, it'll probably ranking below Amazing and Invincible Iron Man in the future, but I get the feeling that the comic will regularly sell well.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Feb 8, 2016 19:45:26 GMT -5
I will certainly be checking out the Byrne stuff though. I never was a big FF fan, but reading these for historical purposes also made me into a huge fan of the Thing. I LOVE John Byrne. His run isn't perfect, but it does so many cool things. I know they're like 40 years old now but I don't want to spoil stuff just in case you're not versed in the intricacies of the continuity. I will say one of the highlights is a short story of Trapster trying to break into the F4 headquarters XD After Byrne you have the non-essential but awesome Walt Simonson run, now easily available in 'Fantastic Four Epic Collection: Into the Time Stream'. Mark Waid's run would be the next actually ESSENTIAL F4, because he captures the perfect Reed Richards. Too many people don't get Reed write, but the ones that do make him one of the best characters in comics. That run is collected in a variety of different formats, but I'm hoping for an omnibus eventually. I loved the Waid/Wieringo run up until the incredibly heavy-handed "Latveria as Iraq" storyline after the big battle with Dr. Doom. I have the two hardcover collections of the run and the first includes Waid's proposal for what he wanted to do. He just got those characters so well.
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Post by JDviant on Feb 8, 2016 19:55:14 GMT -5
I loved the Waid/Wieringo run up until the incredibly heavy-handed "Latveria as Iraq" storyline after the big battle with Dr. Doom. I have the two hardcover collections of the run and the first includes Waid's proposal for what he wanted to do. He just got those characters so well. Yeah Authoritative Action isn't that great, but the run rebounds nicely after it I think. The Spider-Man 2 parter is just funny, they managed to avoid the mess of Disassembled well with that Galactus story, and the power-switching thing brings back the theme's from Waid's first issue nicely. An omnibus would also include the Jeff Parker/Weiringo mini Spider-Man/Fantastic Four: Silver Rage please.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:21:08 GMT -5
I will certainly be checking out the Byrne stuff though. I never was a big FF fan, but reading these for historical purposes also made me into a huge fan of the Thing. I LOVE John Byrne. His run isn't perfect, but it does so many cool things. I know they're like 40 years old now but I don't want to spoil stuff just in case you're not versed in the intricacies of the continuity. I will say one of the highlights is a short story of Trapster trying to break into the F4 headquarters XD After Byrne you have the non-essential but awesome Walt Simonson run, now easily available in 'Fantastic Four Epic Collection: Into the Time Stream'. Mark Waid's run would be the next actually ESSENTIAL F4, because he captures the perfect Reed Richards. Too many people don't get Reed write, but the ones that do make him one of the best characters in comics. That run is collected in a variety of different formats, but I'm hoping for an omnibus eventually. I've read the Waid stuff, and I did like it. I didn't know Simonson had an FF run, I'm currently reading his Thor stuff and am really liking it so I might check that out. I am familiar with Byrne from growing up on his version of Superman, I just haven't gotten around to his FF stuff yet, but I will, it's on my To Read list. When it comes to older comics, I grew up on 80's and 90's comics, so even if stuff from that era feels dated it's still easy for me to get into usually, since those were the type of comics I was first exposed to. It's the really old stuff like from the 50's and 60's that I have a harder time reading. Aside from my love of Kirby's artwork, much of that stuff is a little too dated for me. Like 10 years ago, I made a list of every comic book run I ever wanted to read, and am near completion. I saved 60's-80's Marvel stuff I wanted to read for last because I want Claremont's X-Men to be my grand finale. Now that I've read most Lee and Kirby stuff I've pretty much got the 60's covered. In addition to FF I read most of their other stuff too, like X-Men, Hulk, early Avengers, Thor, etc. I enjoyed most of it quite a bit it's just these later FFs that got kind of dull. Johnny searching for the Inhumans for what felt forever and things like that just got really old after awhile. I do still need to read the Lee and Romita Spider-Man stuff to complete my 60's reading, but I'm going to read some other stuff first. I do have a question about Byrnes FF since you are such a big fan: I know he replaced Thing with She-Hulk for awhile while he was writing it, and that he also did a She-Hilk series. Did the She-Hulk series come after his FF run, or should I read both at the same time alternating issues?
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Post by JDviant on Feb 8, 2016 20:33:37 GMT -5
I do have a question about Byrnes FF since you are such a big fan: I know he replaced Thing with She-Hulk for awhile while he was writing it, and that he also did a She-Hilk series. Did the She-Hulk series come after his FF run, or should I read both at the same time alternating issues? She-Hulk came out some years later, so you can read it at anytime. How are you going to read Byrne? He also wrote a Thing series, but if you're reading the omnibuses the important ones that crossover are included.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 9, 2016 15:57:49 GMT -5
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 10, 2016 8:32:54 GMT -5
Over in the newspapers yesterday, MJ told Peter that sometimes he can be as dense as his webbing. I didn't really have a problem with that since the art and wording meant it was clearly a warm hearted rib and not mean-spirited in any way. Over in ANAD Avengers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}The team find out who Lady Thor is
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 10, 2016 11:19:33 GMT -5
Also: {Spoiler}Vision is acting really, really, really creepy. Not sure if that relates to the things happening over to him over on his solo title, though. I also suspect that he'll be the one whose responsible for the new Wasp showing up, along with others.
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Post by sternrogers01 on Feb 10, 2016 11:22:45 GMT -5
There will be over 23 "Apocalypse War" variants for various issues starting in May.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 10, 2016 11:33:41 GMT -5
Also: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Vision is acting really, really, really creepy. Not sure if that relates to the things happening over to him over on his solo title, though. I also suspect that he'll be the one whose responsible for the new Wasp showing up, along with others. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Well have you seen the cover for the next all new all different? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Also Jan appears to be back in Wolverine today... so... I guess they are completely dropping the end of Axis.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 10, 2016 11:39:41 GMT -5
Do they explain why she retired from being a hero (if they even touch upon that) or do they hint at what happens next?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 10, 2016 11:41:17 GMT -5
Do they explain why she retired from being a hero (if they even touch upon that) or do they hint at what happens next? Haven't read it yet... but she's suited up as the wasp still. So I don't think she's retired (yet at least). She is the current owner of Pym Laboratories (Since Hank is still thought to be dead on Earth I'd imagine and as his ex-wife I'd imagine he'd leave it to her) so that probably has something to do with why there'd be a new Wasp. {Spoiler} Speaking of is this the longest Jan's stuck with a look or what?
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