Burst
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Post by Burst on Jan 31, 2016 15:12:57 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think MLP is in danger of going anywhere any time soon. There's just been too much fandom 'infrastructure' built up so to speak and so far as I can tell, the actual intended audience is still eating it up like crazy. That's something that inexplicably seems to get overlooked in terms of fandoms, you're always going to need new blood coming in as fans either age out or get bored, and when that dries up, it's almost always the beginning of an inevitable decline.
MLP is nowhere near having literally one forum left as an outpost for fans of a given thing, by any means.
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Malcolm
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 31, 2016 15:16:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I don't think MLP is in danger of going anywhere any time soon. There's just been too much fandom 'infrastructure' built up so to speak and so far as I can tell, the actual intended audience is still eating it up like crazy. That's something that inexplicably seems to get overlooked in terms of fandoms, you're always going to need new blood coming in as fans either age out or get bored, and when that dries up, it's almost always the beginning of an inevitable decline. MLP is nowhere near having literally one forum left as an outpost for fans of a given thing, by any means. I think that's how the Sonic fandom still survives. While you still got the crazies and the jaded older fans, kids still seem to love the 'hog(thanks to the cartoons and comics). |
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Post by wildojinx on Jan 31, 2016 16:02:25 GMT -5
While his show is still popular, the rabid following Conan O'Brien had has definitely toned down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 18:30:46 GMT -5
G.I. Joe fandom seems to still be around, but dying a slow death. GI Joe fandom was alive and very well in the '80s and into the '90s. When A Real American Hero ended, it died off a lot but still exists on the toy collector level. The comics came back and were fine for a while, still being published but the numbers are low and alive basically to keep the name out there. Transformers died off a lot after the Movie in '86 but the toys kept coming for 5 years or so, and the comics went a while too. It flatlined for almost 10 years (at least in the States - I believe it still did very well in Japan for quite a while) but boy, it came back (thanks to those Dreamwave comics, maybe more so than Beast Wars) and became something fierce huh? |
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Vern
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Almighty Malachi.
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Post by Vern on Jan 31, 2016 18:37:41 GMT -5
Gaga.
I mean... wow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 18:38:11 GMT -5
Currently watching as Youtube's Finebros are losing subscribers left and right. Shit was all good a week ago, then they put out a video about how they're gonna copyright their format--which isn't original---and bam!  |
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Vern
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Post by Vern on Jan 31, 2016 18:43:19 GMT -5
Currently watching as Youtube's Finebros are losing subscribers left and right. Shit was all good a week ago, then they put out a video about how they're gonna copyright their format--which isn't original---and bam! Yeah, I said that earlier. It's like a bush fire. I've always found their shows entertaining but disliked them, so I'm watching with popcorn. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 19:15:07 GMT -5
Currently watching as Youtube's Finebros are losing subscribers left and right. Shit was all good a week ago, then they put out a video about how they're gonna copyright their format--which isn't original---and bam! Yeah, I said that earlier. It's like a bush fire. I've always found their shows entertaining but disliked them, so I'm watching with popcorn. I'd like the gaming ones but this is as bad as Microsoft or Sony (I can't remember which) trying to copyright Let Plays. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 31, 2016 19:16:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I said that earlier. It's like a bush fire. I've always found their shows entertaining but disliked them, so I'm watching with popcorn. I'd like the gaming ones but this is as bad as Microsoft or Sony (I can't remember which) trying to copyright Let Plays. Sony, |
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Post by horseface on Jan 31, 2016 20:13:46 GMT -5
I witnessed the Rock & Wrestling boom of the mid '80s flame out really quickly, I'll say when I was in 8th grade. (Late 1987/early 1988). WrestleMania III was definitely the peak. People just stopped paying attention to it. Seemed like me and my friend were the only ones who still admitted to being fans. For me, it was the Attitude Era. I was always a wrestling fan growing up, but it felt like from the day I showed up for the first day of school in August 1997 to my last day of school in June 2000, WWF and WCW were the biggest things going. Then, almost as if everyone in my school collectively stopped caring over the summer of 2000, I strolled into school for the first day of class in August 2000 and wrestling was completely passe. School was like this with a lot of stuff. It was like one day everyone was talking about it, wearing the shirts, then it was like everyone except you got together one weekend and decided no we're not doing this anymore. Then you come in on monday with your wrestling/south park shirt on and feel like everyone is looking at you weird when those same people were wearing the shirts and talking about it still just on friday. |
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Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 31, 2016 20:30:16 GMT -5
Endless Eight. Week to week you could just see all the life leaving the Haruhi season and fans quickly ceasing to give a shit about it. Hell, to this day I've not bothered to watch the episodes that came after it. Have read the book, saw the movie, and I've rewatched the first season since, but it poisoned the well on season two for me. Pity that this was the end, because I thought it was a pretty brilliant (and even necessary) take on the Groundhog Day formula. Particularly galling that the main complaints online were that they weren't going to get to the Vanishment arc in Series 2, even though that was because we were getting it in movie form instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 20:35:16 GMT -5
Endless Eight. Week to week you could just see all the life leaving the Haruhi season and fans quickly ceasing to give a shit about it. Hell, to this day I've not bothered to watch the episodes that came after it. Have read the book, saw the movie, and I've rewatched the first season since, but it poisoned the well on season two for me. Pity that this was the end, because I thought it was a pretty brilliant (and even necessary) take on the Groundhog Day formula. Particularly galling that the main complaints online were that they weren't going to get to the Vanishment arc in Series 2, even though that was because we were getting it in movie form instead. Honestly, I think that's a perfectly valid problem with the season, because they spent basically the entire two year gap between seasons hyping up, "We're doing Disappearance, guys," and then just wound up doing the same episode over and over and over instead then adapting the good but ultimately largely meaningless Sigh to end the series on. The Disappearance movie is a quality adaptation to be sure, and very good, but there wasn't really anything in it that couldn't have been done in the show. Other than the reference to them getting shitfaced in Remote Island Syndrome given they had to cut that from the adaptation of that for censorship reasons, anyway. As for Endless Eight being necessary... Ehhhhh... I understand what they were trying for, but of course giving people the same episode eight times in a row (and even the first episode was pretty dull honestly, about the only episode I'd call worse taken strictly on its own is Someday in the Rain) was just going to piss them off and tank the ratings and DVD sales. Even if you wanted to build up the restlessness and really let the magnitude of how horrible this was to go through sink in, I think the point could have been made just as easily in three or four episodes without spending over half the season on it. Plus the novels didn't even do that much, you only see the last cycle and it came out after Disappearance did. |
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legendkiller1985
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Jan 31, 2016 20:42:30 GMT -5
I would have to say Glam Metal from the 80's and 90's. It seems one year a lot of people in my town had the Poison/Motley Crue makeup & big hair. By the next year these same kids were all flannel and pierced.
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FinalGwen
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 31, 2016 20:54:59 GMT -5
Pity that this was the end, because I thought it was a pretty brilliant (and even necessary) take on the Groundhog Day formula. Particularly galling that the main complaints online were that they weren't going to get to the Vanishment arc in Series 2, even though that was because we were getting it in movie form instead. Honestly, I think that's a perfectly valid problem with the season, because they spent basically the entire two year gap between seasons hyping up, "We're doing Disappearance, guys," and then just wound up doing the same episode over and over and over instead then adapting the good but ultimately largely meaningless Sigh to end the series on. The Disappearance movie is a quality adaptation to be sure, and very good, but there wasn't really anything in it that couldn't have been done in the show. Other than the reference to them getting shitfaced in Remote Island Syndrome given they had to cut that from the adaptation of that for censorship reasons, anyway. As for Endless Eight being necessary... Ehhhhh... I understand what they were trying for, but of course giving people the same episode eight times in a row (and even the first episode was pretty dull honestly, about the only episode I'd call worse taken strictly on its own is Someday in the Rain) was just going to piss them off and tank the ratings and DVD sales. Even if you wanted to build up the restlessness and really let the magnitude of how horrible this was to go through sink in, I think the point could have been made just as easily in three or four episodes without spending over half the season on it. Plus the novels didn't even do that much, you only see the last cycle and it came out after Disappearance did. When I say necessary, I don't just mean for an adaptation of Haruhi, I mean for Groundhog Day style stuff in general, because honestly, they were always kind of meh before that got over the true horror and frustration of being stuck in a loop. Bill Murray does stuff for 101 minutes and then it's done, that kind of thing. I feel like it's a plotline that doesn't work as a self contained story. The episodic format, and coming back with the slightly different plots and moods was something that properly showed it to its full potential for maybe the first time in history. Ultimately, it seemed like it was judged to be an interesting gimmick for the second series in the same way that the non-sequential order of the first series was (something else that the books didn't use). In retrospect, maybe they should have gone for something else given how it did break the fandom, but I'll always think it was a pretty neat choice. Plus, I also think that the interesting parts of a series/story/life can be the bits where life just goes on and we see characters acting normally, to the sides of the big adventure, so ones like that and Someday In The Rain are to my tastes, so that probably has an impact. Maybe I'm just weird.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2016 21:16:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I think that's a perfectly valid problem with the season, because they spent basically the entire two year gap between seasons hyping up, "We're doing Disappearance, guys," and then just wound up doing the same episode over and over and over instead then adapting the good but ultimately largely meaningless Sigh to end the series on. The Disappearance movie is a quality adaptation to be sure, and very good, but there wasn't really anything in it that couldn't have been done in the show. Other than the reference to them getting shitfaced in Remote Island Syndrome given they had to cut that from the adaptation of that for censorship reasons, anyway. As for Endless Eight being necessary... Ehhhhh... I understand what they were trying for, but of course giving people the same episode eight times in a row (and even the first episode was pretty dull honestly, about the only episode I'd call worse taken strictly on its own is Someday in the Rain) was just going to piss them off and tank the ratings and DVD sales. Even if you wanted to build up the restlessness and really let the magnitude of how horrible this was to go through sink in, I think the point could have been made just as easily in three or four episodes without spending over half the season on it. Plus the novels didn't even do that much, you only see the last cycle and it came out after Disappearance did. When I say necessary, I don't just mean for an adaptation of Haruhi, I mean for Groundhog Day style stuff in general, because honestly, they were always kind of meh before that got over the true horror and frustration of being stuck in a loop. Bill Murray does stuff for 101 minutes and then it's done, that kind of thing. I feel like it's a plotline that doesn't work as a self contained story. The episodic format, and coming back with the slightly different plots and moods was something that properly showed it to its full potential for maybe the first time in history. Ultimately, it seemed like it was judged to be an interesting gimmick for the second series in the same way that the non-sequential order of the first series was (something else that the books didn't use). In retrospect, maybe they should have gone for something else given how it did break the fandom, but I'll always think it was a pretty neat choice. Plus, I also think that the interesting parts of a series/story/life can be the bits where life just goes on and we see characters acting normally, to the sides of the big adventure, so ones like that and Someday In The Rain are to my tastes, so that probably has an impact. Maybe I'm just weird. Honestly my biggest issue with Someday in the Rain is that it completely breaks the show's format and doesn't feel like a regular episode at all. It just doesn't feel like the show not having Kyon perpetually onscreen and not seeing everything through him. Also the books actually did do the non-sequential thing, they just didn't use the same order the show did. |
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Got fined anyway.
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James Franco is the white Donald Glover
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jan 31, 2016 21:29:37 GMT -5
The Ben 10 Franchise
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 31, 2016 22:06:40 GMT -5
Currently watching as Youtube's Finebros are losing subscribers left and right. Shit was all good a week ago, then they put out a video about how they're gonna copyright their format--which isn't original---and bam! Yeah, I said that earlier. It's like a bush fire. I've always found their shows entertaining but disliked them, so I'm watching with popcorn. TheFineBros may come out of this surviving in some form, but either way this whole incident is gonna be the thing they talk about in PR/business classes about how fragile reputation is, and how one bad announcement can potentially tank your entire company. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2016 0:07:49 GMT -5
TMNT became so monstrously huge in the late '80s then died such a slow, painful death in the mid-'90s that I assumed it would never be relevant again.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 1, 2016 1:04:26 GMT -5
The Matrix
The first one was big and revolutionary, the second one was big although not as good as the first, and the third one just killed the franchise and fandom after the opening weekend.
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on Feb 1, 2016 2:27:06 GMT -5
There was a small fan community for The Dreamstone I was a part of, I even got to strike up a friendship with it's creator, but over the years the community dwindled. I finally got back in contact with Mike via Facebook. I loved that show as a kid. |
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