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Post by Red Impact on Feb 14, 2016 23:30:00 GMT -5
Paywise per injury, golf has to be on top. That's not to say golf is a walk int he park on the body, because it's really, raelly not, but the payment per the significant injury has to be higher than anything else.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Feb 17, 2016 15:39:17 GMT -5
Scrabble? It's on ESPN.
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Post by Ganon83 on Feb 17, 2016 15:55:45 GMT -5
I want to say NASCAR if only because most of their legends aren't suffering from aftermath/effects ala the NFL. That we know of. I do wonder how many pit crew workers died of mesothelioma breathing in brake dust, or drivers dying early due to breathing in carbon monoxide thru the years. Also, outside of a rare occurrence, in the major sports, I have never see anyone die on the field of play or track. Never have heard of pit crew members dying because of that. There was a longtime journeyman driver by name of Rick Mast who had to retire after doctors diagnosed him with carbon monoxide poisoning. He's still alive however, and since 2007 they have re-developed air intake systems now that are designed to keep fumes out of the cockpit
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Post by Session Moth is over on Feb 19, 2016 7:45:06 GMT -5
Darts pays pretty well for the top guys.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 19, 2016 17:40:14 GMT -5
Poker? I don't call it a sport but some do.
Bowling? You can do it while you drink.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2016 3:21:36 GMT -5
NFL placekickers?
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Post by Nickybojelais on Feb 21, 2016 8:08:55 GMT -5
Yeah I'd say Darts. The top two players in the world have won over or close to £1 million in the past two years.
Not bad pay for moving your arm and walking 5 paces to retrieve the darts from the board.
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Post by RadcapRadsley on Feb 24, 2016 9:06:34 GMT -5
For those who say Poker I feel you are downplaying the effects of paper cuts.
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Post by Push R Truth on Feb 24, 2016 11:59:37 GMT -5
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Feb 28, 2017 20:30:35 GMT -5
There is no easy way for me to say this ... The thing is a quick search cracking the top ten in golf makes you 15 million in 2015. 73 making at least 15 million based on contracts in 2016 in MLB (including pitchers catchers but still) and 50 plus more going to make 10 million plus those are guaranteed years. So yeah if you can be the top guy in golf vs. baseball you'll make more but there is more room in baseball to make the great money then there is in golf. Sorry to bump, but out of the major American team sports yeah baseball seems like the answer still. Sure golf and darts would be better, but like you said there's so little room in either. From most wear and tear to least out of the major American team sports (and soccer) would it go: Football Basketball Soccer Hockey Baseball
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 13:18:27 GMT -5
The thing is a quick search cracking the top ten in golf makes you 15 million in 2015. 73 making at least 15 million based on contracts in 2016 in MLB (including pitchers catchers but still) and 50 plus more going to make 10 million plus those are guaranteed years. So yeah if you can be the top guy in golf vs. baseball you'll make more but there is more room in baseball to make the great money then there is in golf. Sorry to bump, but out of the major American team sports yeah baseball seems like the answer still. Sure golf and darts would be better, but like you said there's so little room in either. From most wear and tear to least out of the major American team sports (and soccer) would it go: Football Basketball Soccer Hockey Baseball It's really hard to compare. Like hockey is a way rougher game to play than Basketball where more kinds of injuries and freak accidents can occur. But I think the injury rate of Basketball to Hockey is very close and that's because just simply being tall and carrying all that weight and doing all that running and jumping takes a toll on your knee's/ankles/hamstrings/etc faster. But in hockey you can get a concussion from a bodycheck to the head from a 240lb forward skating 60km/h, falling on the ice, blocking a 100mph shot with your face, getting punched in the face in a fight, getting checked into the boards, having your face or throat sliced by a skate, etc. I think a more appropriate question would be which sports have the least amount longer term damages. It would probably be: Football Hockey Baseball Soccer Basketball
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Mar 1, 2017 14:17:54 GMT -5
Well ESPN DID show a scrabble tournaments, so I'm going to say that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 1, 2017 17:59:25 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind having David Ortiz's situation. Make nearly $200 million to bat four times a game and occasionally (as in maybe 15-20 games per season) play first base. His feet and knees are trashed though. That is a major reason why he retired because his feet and legs was giving out on him. He essentially had to prepare 2 hours before everyone else just so he can play in the game. A rod sort of in same situation with his hips being trashed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 20:31:46 GMT -5
You forgot the National Spelling Bee.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 3, 2017 0:22:47 GMT -5
The thing is a quick search cracking the top ten in golf makes you 15 million in 2015. 73 making at least 15 million based on contracts in 2016 in MLB (including pitchers catchers but still) and 50 plus more going to make 10 million plus those are guaranteed years. So yeah if you can be the top guy in golf vs. baseball you'll make more but there is more room in baseball to make the great money then there is in golf. Sorry to bump, but out of the major American team sports yeah baseball seems like the answer still. Sure golf and darts would be better, but like you said there's so little room in either. From most wear and tear to least out of the major American team sports (and soccer) would it go: Football Basketball Soccer Hockey Baseball It's really not; baseball grinds a body down. It's not because the game itself is as physical as, say, football or hockey, but because of the types of motion necessary to perform as a pitcher or a hitter/fielder/base runner wear down on muscles, cartilage, ligaments, etc. Pitching, for example, is an unnatural motion, but so is the type of routine throwing that fielders do, so is the type of rotation necessary to produce the torque needed to be a good hitter, and so is the constant stop-and-start style of base running and quick twitch reactions on many infield defensive plays. It is very difficult to keep playing the game at a high level once you're in your upper 30s. Oddly enough, of the "big four" sports in North America the answer might be hockey. Obviously it's a sport that comes with a ton of high risk situations; guys who are often 210+ pounds of muscle skating around at very high speeds and bodying each other for puck possession and defense can easily lead to hard checks and, in bad situations, concussions. Yet, more than the other sports, you'll see players remain effective well into their 30s, or even in some cases their 40s (or, if you're Jaromir Jagr, even after your eleventy-first birthday), likely because skating allows for less direct impact and grinding wear and tear on players' knees and comes with the added bonus of providing constant cardio exercise. So it's a sport with a lot of high risk potential, but also the sport where most guys end up walking away from the game without too much in the way of, say, degenerative physical conditions and delayed surgeries.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 3, 2017 0:48:47 GMT -5
Sorry to bump, but out of the major American team sports yeah baseball seems like the answer still. Sure golf and darts would be better, but like you said there's so little room in either. From most wear and tear to least out of the major American team sports (and soccer) would it go: Football Basketball Soccer Hockey Baseball It's really hard to compare. Like hockey is a way rougher game to play than Basketball where more kinds of injuries and freak accidents can occur. But I think the injury rate of Basketball to Hockey is very close and that's because just simply being tall and carrying all that weight and doing all that running and jumping takes a toll on your knee's/ankles/hamstrings/etc faster. But in hockey you can get a concussion from a bodycheck to the head from a 240lb forward skating 60km/h, falling on the ice, blocking a 100mph shot with your face, getting punched in the face in a fight, getting checked into the boards, having your face or throat sliced by a skate, etc. I think a more appropriate question would be which sports have the least amount longer term damages. It would probably be: Football Hockey Baseball Soccer Basketball Soccer over baseball and hockey is laughable. Hockey is easily the roughest of the 3, and even moreso when you consider that the majority of guys (not named Gaborik or Semin) come back earlier than expected on injuries. If a guy is out 4-6 weeks, it's not surprising to see him back before the 4 week mark. In the NBA, if a guy is out for 4-6 weeks, he returns to 30 minutes over 2 months later. In baseball, at the end of week 6, the guy is usually in AA ball. Hockey players are tougher and get injured more than anybody outside of maybe the NFL. Maybe. Baseball is different in that it starts in March and ends in late October, and in between is a marathon of games. It's almost impossible for guys to play 145/150 games (with adequate rest) and not get injured in addition to the regular wear and tear soreness of playing pretty much every other day for 7 months. Soccer is a grind, but the two are not really comparable. Your list is pretty spot-on. Basketball outside of knees/feet is ridiculously non-physical. The wear and tear on the greats seems so little compared to other sports. Like LeBron, who can go deep into the playoffs every year and play major minutes and play almost every game and he seems every bit as strong as when he came into the league.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2017 1:01:06 GMT -5
Sorry to bump, but out of the major American team sports yeah baseball seems like the answer still. Sure golf and darts would be better, but like you said there's so little room in either. From most wear and tear to least out of the major American team sports (and soccer) would it go: Football Basketball Soccer Hockey Baseball It's really not; baseball grinds a body down. It's not because the game itself is as physical as, say, football or hockey, but because of the types of motion necessary to perform as a pitcher or a hitter/fielder/base runner wear down on muscles, cartilage, ligaments, etc. Pitching, for example, is an unnatural motion, but so is the type of routine throwing that fielders do, so is the type of rotation necessary to produce the torque needed to be a good hitter, and so is the constant stop-and-start style of base running and quick twitch reactions on many infield defensive plays. It is very difficult to keep playing the game at a high level once you're in your upper 30s. Oddly enough, of the "big four" sports in North America the answer might be hockey. Obviously it's a sport that comes with a ton of high risk situations; guys who are often 210+ pounds of muscle skating around at very high speeds and bodying each other for puck possession and defense can easily lead to hard checks and, in bad situations, concussions. Yet, more than the other sports, you'll see players remain effective well into their 30s, or even in some cases their 40s (or, if you're Jaromir Jagr, even after your eleventy-first birthday), likely because skating allows for less direct impact and grinding wear and tear on players' knees and comes with the added bonus of providing constant cardio exercise. So it's a sport with a lot of high risk potential, but also the sport where most guys end up walking away from the game without too much in the way of, say, degenerative physical conditions and delayed surgeries. Two things I do want to point out about skating is it does have a higher risk in wrecking your foot or achellis tendon. When it's wrecked your career is over see Forsberg or Ryan Whitney or Heatley. Also two Jagr is probably a cyborg and if he was skilled in any other sport he will still be playing at 45 because he's f***ing Jagr. He probably has at least another 25 more years left in playing career.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 3, 2017 1:17:12 GMT -5
Sorry to bump, but out of the major American team sports yeah baseball seems like the answer still. Sure golf and darts would be better, but like you said there's so little room in either. From most wear and tear to least out of the major American team sports (and soccer) would it go: Football Basketball Soccer Hockey Baseball It's really not; baseball grinds a body down. It's not because the game itself is as physical as, say, football or hockey, but because of the types of motion necessary to perform as a pitcher or a hitter/fielder/base runner wear down on muscles, cartilage, ligaments, etc. Pitching, for example, is an unnatural motion, but so is the type of routine throwing that fielders do, so is the type of rotation necessary to produce the torque needed to be a good hitter, and so is the constant stop-and-start style of base running and quick twitch reactions on many infield defensive plays. It is very difficult to keep playing the game at a high level once you're in your upper 30s. Oddly enough, of the "big four" sports in North America the answer might be hockey. Obviously it's a sport that comes with a ton of high risk situations; guys who are often 210+ pounds of muscle skating around at very high speeds and bodying each other for puck possession and defense can easily lead to hard checks and, in bad situations, concussions. Yet, more than the other sports, you'll see players remain effective well into their 30s, or even in some cases their 40s (or, if you're Jaromir Jagr, even after your eleventy-first birthday), likely because skating allows for less direct impact and grinding wear and tear on players' knees and comes with the added bonus of providing constant cardio exercise. So it's a sport with a lot of high risk potential, but also the sport where most guys end up walking away from the game without too much in the way of, say, degenerative physical conditions and delayed surgeries. Baseball has tons of players effective into their 30's and some play into their 40's, as well as guys like Franco and Moyer who are basically on social security, but can still comes out and play.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 3, 2017 8:27:48 GMT -5
It's really not; baseball grinds a body down. It's not because the game itself is as physical as, say, football or hockey, but because of the types of motion necessary to perform as a pitcher or a hitter/fielder/base runner wear down on muscles, cartilage, ligaments, etc. Pitching, for example, is an unnatural motion, but so is the type of routine throwing that fielders do, so is the type of rotation necessary to produce the torque needed to be a good hitter, and so is the constant stop-and-start style of base running and quick twitch reactions on many infield defensive plays. It is very difficult to keep playing the game at a high level once you're in your upper 30s. Oddly enough, of the "big four" sports in North America the answer might be hockey. Obviously it's a sport that comes with a ton of high risk situations; guys who are often 210+ pounds of muscle skating around at very high speeds and bodying each other for puck possession and defense can easily lead to hard checks and, in bad situations, concussions. Yet, more than the other sports, you'll see players remain effective well into their 30s, or even in some cases their 40s (or, if you're Jaromir Jagr, even after your eleventy-first birthday), likely because skating allows for less direct impact and grinding wear and tear on players' knees and comes with the added bonus of providing constant cardio exercise. So it's a sport with a lot of high risk potential, but also the sport where most guys end up walking away from the game without too much in the way of, say, degenerative physical conditions and delayed surgeries. Baseball has tons of players effective into their 30's and some play into their 40's, as well as guys like Franco and Moyer who are basically on social security, but can still comes out and play. Gonna need evidence on the "tons", especially in the post-ubiquitous-PED-and-amphetamine era. Some guys are able to slot into an AL team and DH to save on the wear and tear, but the era of guys like Bonds dominating into old age is pretty much over. The game is currently pretty much dominated by players in their 20s, which wasn't the case a bit over a decade ago.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 3, 2017 9:44:03 GMT -5
Baseball has tons of players effective into their 30's and some play into their 40's, as well as guys like Franco and Moyer who are basically on social security, but can still comes out and play. Gonna need evidence on the "tons", especially in the post-ubiquitous-PED-and-amphetamine era. Some guys are able to slot into an AL team and DH to save on the wear and tear, but the era of guys like Bonds dominating into old age is pretty much over. The game is currently pretty much dominated by players in their 20s, which wasn't the case a bit over a decade ago. Ummm....do your own research maybe? Effective does not mean dominating. In baseball, if you're a very good player, it's pretty much a given that you'll be around until you're 40. And for the most part, still somewhat effective. Some guys move to the pen and some guys DH, but I don't think it's crazy to say that there are a LOT of guys who have a measure success in baseball past 35. And you're also kind of moving the goal posts by saying that more recently it's been dominated by young players. That really wasn't the discussion. Hockey has plenty of guys who stick around and some are still good like Lidstrom, but he is an extreme minority. Baseball might not have players at the same rate, but that could also be due to the fact that they also have a way more competitive minor league system that always has players ready to push guys out of a job whereas a veteran like let's say Jarome Iginla is hard to push out just on name value alone.
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