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Post by RadcapRadsley on Mar 3, 2017 23:50:00 GMT -5
One of the reasons players decline in their late 30's in baseball is simply reflexes get slower as you age.This is a sport where you are hitting a ball coming at you at 90-100mph so even your reflexes declining even 5% or so will erode you as a hitter. A lot of guys who cant hang in MLB still can play in lower divisions.
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Mar 4, 2017 7:10:11 GMT -5
WE can add curling onto the list, unless there is a high risk of carpal tunnel or stress injuries due to the sweeping.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 4, 2017 7:51:51 GMT -5
Baseball has a very high level of physical wear and tear for a lot of positions, especially pitchers, a large part of it being just how many games they play in a season. It may not have as many catastrophic injuries as other sports, but the toll it takes is still very significant, and I don't know any baseball player who played through college who does not have some sort of joint issue.
The thread also wanted to compare the pay, and if you're going to look at that, you have to take into account that most pro baseball players are in the minors and don't make a lot of money. If you make it to the MLB it's great, but very few do and a mid-range pro is probably still in AAA making 90K a year. Whereas a midrange golf pro is probably making in the 500K to 700K range.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 5, 2017 3:34:36 GMT -5
Baseball has a very high level of physical wear and tear for a lot of positions, especially pitchers, a large part of it being just how many games they play in a season. It may not have as many catastrophic injuries as other sports, but the toll it takes is still very significant, and I don't know any baseball player who played through college who does not have some sort of joint issue. The thread also wanted to compare the pay, and if you're going to look at that, you have to take into account that most pro baseball players are in the minors and don't make a lot of money. If you make it to the MLB it's great, but very few do and a mid-range pro is probably still in AAA making 90K a year. Whereas a midrange golf pro is probably making in the 500K to 700K range. But at the same time, MLB players get paid SO much. Relievers get good money, bench players get good money, even a decent number of BAD starting pitchers get paid tons (7-14 mil in numerous cases). Guys on the bench in the NFL or 4th liners in hockey can't even come close to those numbers. If you're the 200th best player in baseball, you're making more money (in straight salary/earnings) than the 200th best golfer in the world.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 5, 2017 11:03:36 GMT -5
Baseball has a very high level of physical wear and tear for a lot of positions, especially pitchers, a large part of it being just how many games they play in a season. It may not have as many catastrophic injuries as other sports, but the toll it takes is still very significant, and I don't know any baseball player who played through college who does not have some sort of joint issue. The thread also wanted to compare the pay, and if you're going to look at that, you have to take into account that most pro baseball players are in the minors and don't make a lot of money. If you make it to the MLB it's great, but very few do and a mid-range pro is probably still in AAA making 90K a year. Whereas a midrange golf pro is probably making in the 500K to 700K range. But at the same time, MLB players get paid SO much. Relievers get good money, bench players get good money, even a decent number of BAD starting pitchers get paid tons (7-14 mil in numerous cases). Guys on the bench in the NFL or 4th liners in hockey can't even come close to those numbers. If you're the 200th best player in baseball, you're making more money (in straight salary/earnings) than the 200th best golfer in the world. If you get into the majors, absolutely. A midrange baseball player will be in the minor leagues earning peanuts though. A midrange golfer probably won't be. You have be better than around 6000 or so minor league players to get into the majors. And you have to compare that to the strain on the body, which you picked the most strenuous baseball position. Pitchers are usually wrecked more than most any other non-contact sport athlete. Whereas the wear and tear on a golfer's body is typically much less than on a baseball players, hence why you even have a senior's tour for older players in a way you never could for baseball.
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Post by sfvega on Mar 6, 2017 7:41:41 GMT -5
But at the same time, MLB players get paid SO much. Relievers get good money, bench players get good money, even a decent number of BAD starting pitchers get paid tons (7-14 mil in numerous cases). Guys on the bench in the NFL or 4th liners in hockey can't even come close to those numbers. If you're the 200th best player in baseball, you're making more money (in straight salary/earnings) than the 200th best golfer in the world. If you get into the majors, absolutely. A midrange baseball player will be in the minor leagues earning peanuts though. A midrange golfer probably won't be. You have be better than around 6000 or so minor league players to get into the majors. And you have to compare that to the strain on the body, which you picked the most strenuous baseball position. Pitchers are usually wrecked more than most any other non-contact sport athlete. Whereas the wear and tear on a golfer's body is typically much less than on a baseball players, hence why you even have a senior's tour for older players in a way you never could for baseball. It's relative to your talent level, though. The top golfers and baseball players, the elite of the elite, probably make comparable money considering the top golfers probably get more endorsements than their baseball counterparts. At least, they did until contracts got out of control (*cough* Bryce *cough*) But on down, the golf counterpart to the career minor league baseball player probably makes even LESS honestly, because there's enough money in baseball to pay guys to be competition for up and comers. Where as, if you can't really hack it in golf, you're gonna be retired or enter tournaments more as a hobby. So pretty much on down the line, the baseball counterpart makes more. The wear and tear is more on baseball, obviously. But the money is tilted towards baseball.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 6, 2017 20:21:24 GMT -5
It's relative to your talent level, though. The top golfers and baseball players, the elite of the elite, probably make comparable money considering the top golfers probably get more endorsements than their baseball counterparts. At least, they did until contracts got out of control (*cough* Bryce *cough*) But on down, the golf counterpart to the career minor league baseball player probably makes even LESS honestly, because there's enough money in baseball to pay guys to be competition for up and comers. Where as, if you can't really hack it in golf, you're gonna be retired or enter tournaments more as a hobby. So pretty much on down the line, the baseball counterpart makes more. The wear and tear is more on baseball, obviously. But the money is tilted towards baseball. I mean, if we're talking the elite of the elite,then baseball is the definite winner. But the drop off for baseball is huge and the competition is greater. Meanwhile the wear and tear is much greater in baseball. So if you were going to make a decision to maximize money made with least amount of wear, golf is likely the best bet, as you have fewer number of people to beat to reach the well-paid level and the wear isn't as bad to get there. As for minor league pay. money.cnn.com/2016/07/01/news/companies/minor-league-baseball-pay/
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Post by sfvega on Mar 6, 2017 22:04:18 GMT -5
It's relative to your talent level, though. The top golfers and baseball players, the elite of the elite, probably make comparable money considering the top golfers probably get more endorsements than their baseball counterparts. At least, they did until contracts got out of control (*cough* Bryce *cough*) But on down, the golf counterpart to the career minor league baseball player probably makes even LESS honestly, because there's enough money in baseball to pay guys to be competition for up and comers. Where as, if you can't really hack it in golf, you're gonna be retired or enter tournaments more as a hobby. So pretty much on down the line, the baseball counterpart makes more. The wear and tear is more on baseball, obviously. But the money is tilted towards baseball. I mean, if we're talking the elite of the elite,then baseball is the definite winner. But the drop off for baseball is huge and the competition is greater. Meanwhile the wear and tear is much greater in baseball. So if you were going to make a decision to maximize money made with least amount of wear, golf is likely the best bet, as you have fewer number of people to beat to reach the well-paid level and the wear isn't as bad to get there. As for minor league pay. money.cnn.com/2016/07/01/news/companies/minor-league-baseball-pay/When you talk about gross numbers, golf is even tougher, because there's SUCH a small number of golfers worldwide who make good money. How many gross golfers make over $300,000 in earnings? There's probably 20x as many baseball players who make comparable money. There's more competition, but there's also more spots and more money in those spots. Again, it's relative. And again, the golf counterpart to the career minor leaguer doesn't make ANY money. They're professionals in name only, because of baseball's bloated minor league system which golf doesn't have.
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Post by vanhyden on Mar 13, 2017 10:28:09 GMT -5
Nah, soccer can get pretty crazy. Yeah, there's a reason so many of them die of heart attacks while playing. Also motorsports requires top fitness as well, especially NASCAR and IndyCar. F1 drivers lose 10 pounds each race, Cockpits are 120 Fahrenheit average
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 17, 2017 23:04:59 GMT -5
I mean, if we're talking the elite of the elite,then baseball is the definite winner. But the drop off for baseball is huge and the competition is greater. Meanwhile the wear and tear is much greater in baseball. So if you were going to make a decision to maximize money made with least amount of wear, golf is likely the best bet, as you have fewer number of people to beat to reach the well-paid level and the wear isn't as bad to get there. As for minor league pay. money.cnn.com/2016/07/01/news/companies/minor-league-baseball-pay/When you talk about gross numbers, golf is even tougher, because there's SUCH a small number of golfers worldwide who make good money. How many gross golfers make over $300,000 in earnings? There's probably 20x as many baseball players who make comparable money. There's more competition, but there's also more spots and more money in those spots. Again, it's relative. And again, the golf counterpart to the career minor leaguer doesn't make ANY money. They're professionals in name only, because of baseball's bloated minor league system which golf doesn't have. But the odds are still that that minor league baseball player earning minimum wage is still wrecking his body a lot more than the golfer at the bottom of the earnings table. That's where you get into the arbitrary trade off of this, yes, more people make money in baseball than in golf, but when you compare body stresses, golf is likely the safer bet.
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