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Post by Throwback on Feb 29, 2016 5:01:21 GMT -5
Well not an off season per say and this is purely hypothetical.
But say they do another Brand Split. Have Raw and the superstars on Raw run from say Jan-March, July-Sept and have Smackdown and it's superstars run April-June, Oct-Dec. Each Brand has it's own PPVs that run in those months except they go back to "The Big 4 " concept where both Brands appear. Which would Mark the end of one season and the beginning of another.
This would give superstars 3 months between seasons to recuperate. As well as not have fans getting tired of seeing the same faces all year.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Feb 29, 2016 6:30:50 GMT -5
Would prefer a brand split, but a three week offseason around the winter holidays would be very welcome and somewhat logical
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Post by lionelp on Feb 29, 2016 6:42:19 GMT -5
No.
They will spend those months wrestling some place else. Not to mention they're going to be hell rusty when they return so the quality of the product is never as good as it was.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 29, 2016 7:17:40 GMT -5
Yes. Just so much yes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 8:12:00 GMT -5
I don't think they need an off season, I just think everyone should have a more reduced achedule. History has shown us a million times that their grueling schedule is not good for the wrestlers.
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 29, 2016 8:25:03 GMT -5
Unless you find a way to make sure the wrestlers get paid the same throughout the year and Vince makes a similar enough profit it will never happen.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 29, 2016 8:26:42 GMT -5
No. One of the major selling points of wrestling is it's on 52 weeks a year and produces a steady rating, if you end one, the other may change also. If you have a long underwhelming 'season' followed by a less than stellar ending, many of those people aren't going to tune back in down the road, all they've really done is accelerate the bleeding of fans for no gain, let's not forget that NBC won't be paying anything while the show is off the air, and there's no income from house shows either.
The WWE need to start giving talent two weeks to a month off each year, with a guaranteed roster spot when they return. Guys could rest up, see their families or work a TV project without really impacting their paydays with the period between. They'd return happier, fresher and the booking team would have had time to make plans for them and the audience will have had some time to start to miss them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 12:41:38 GMT -5
An outright offseason would likely kill them between the lost revenue, the likely huge amount of people running up ring rust, and the quite likely possibility that many of the people watching every week only do so because it's reliable, always there weekly new content that they've gotten into a habit with. Which is also a major selling point to networks for them.
They should, however, look into staggering the roster a bit, so that every two months or so a certain amount of people take off for a bit, and they just rotate that to try and give the whole roster time to rest up at some point during the year. Would make things a lot fresher, likely alleviate a lot of wear and tear (not all, certainly, but some), and not impact things too terribly much.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2016 13:07:02 GMT -5
Financially? I think it would hurt them too much.
Creatively? Health-wise for the workers? I think it could do wonders for that.
I think, especially if you're a heel, once you lose the big match you should go away for a while. So there's an out for the heels to get some off time at least.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 29, 2016 13:49:40 GMT -5
Absolutely. Avoid fan burnout, have time to craft better stories, heal guys up. There are a wealth of positives.
As has been mentioned though, they'd be losing money, so no way it takes place.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 29, 2016 13:52:36 GMT -5
No. They will spend those months wrestling some place else. Not to mention they're going to be hell rusty when they return so the quality of the product is never as good as it was. The only guys who will spend those months wrestling some place else are the lower card guys looking to prove themselves or guys with a chip on their shoulder like Dolph Ziggler trying to show that they can main event SOMEWHERE. Anybody whose spot is secure isn't gonna be doing indy shows. You might see Fandango and Damien Sandow, but not John Cena or The Miz.
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 29, 2016 13:52:57 GMT -5
I'd reduce the house shows and not make people work 2-3 TV Matches a week. If you wrestle on Raw then on SmackDown you should do a promo or something like that. Or if you work Raw and SmackDown you don't work the house shows. I'd make it so there is only one house show a week.
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Post by lionelp on Feb 29, 2016 14:03:40 GMT -5
No. They will spend those months wrestling some place else. Not to mention they're going to be hell rusty when they return so the quality of the product is never as good as it was. The only guys who will spend those months wrestling some place else are the lower card guys looking to prove themselves or guys with a chip on their shoulder like Dolph Ziggler trying to show that they can main event SOMEWHERE. Anybody whose spot is secure isn't gonna be doing indy shows. You might see Fandango and Damien Sandow, but not John Cena or The Miz. Going by that logic it's a company wide off season for 4 guys, Roman Reigns, Ambrose, Cena, Rollins (if healthy ofc). Sorry can't buy the fact that anyone else's spot is 'secure', especially not the Miz! Everyone else bar those 4 guys can go and wrestle and make money for themselves in another company. Hmmm.
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Post by Hit Girl on Feb 29, 2016 14:04:49 GMT -5
They'd benefit from moving beyond Vince's 18th century workhouse mentality when it comes to management and labour.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Feb 29, 2016 14:16:41 GMT -5
Honestly I kind of give them an off season after mania. As in, I just stop watching after mania for about 2-3 months because I know nothing of importance is gonna happen and I just can't physically make myself watch the same show year-round. I understand why they wouldn't do an actual off season, but I sincerely wish they would, for both the workers' sake and just for "I am going to get burned out on watching this"'s sake.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Feb 29, 2016 15:06:44 GMT -5
Honestly I kind of give them an off season after mania. As in, I just stop watching after mania for about 2-3 months because I know nothing of importance is gonna happen and I just can't physically make myself watch the same show year-round. I understand why they wouldn't do an actual off season, but I sincerely wish they would, for both the workers' sake and just for "I am going to get burned out on watching this"'s sake. But dey needs da money
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Post by Joe Neglia on Feb 29, 2016 15:36:54 GMT -5
There aren't any benefits from an off-season. None. Even with the ebbs and flows of WWE's popularity, it has to stay consistent to keep those still watching interested. You give them a break, they'll move on to other things. It's not like "real" sports where's there a real ranking system and final championship game, with the entire thing being more or less set back to zero when the new season starts.
It would kill their merchandise sells for those months, and you'd have an entire roster that was rusty from the layoff.
The best thing they could do to get the same effect is mandatory time off for all the workers, but staggered out so that they aren't all gone at the same time. These five guys get January, these 6 get Feb, these 5 get March, etc.
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Post by JCBaggee on Feb 29, 2016 15:49:51 GMT -5
You know what, I've thought about this, and here it is. No off-season, but talent rotates and spends 2-3 months a year working out of the Performance Center.
No rigorous road travel, no daily house shows, but they're still putting in time. Imagine talent in NXT getting to work with Cena or Orton for 2 months. They can work tapings or help out backstage, knocking out a month of shows in one night, help out daily with training but ultimately kinda take it easy and pitch in without having to worry about rushing to the next town.
An off-season hurts an entertainment based industry like wrestling where it's all about touring and kissing babies, but letting talent cool their heels and help the next wave for a few months wouldn't hurt, and it helps with the process of introducing NXT talent backstage.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Feb 29, 2016 16:51:37 GMT -5
I say there should be a period where WWE has no house shows and focuses only on TV.
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Post by Throwback on Feb 29, 2016 17:03:54 GMT -5
I see what the majority are saying about merchandise sales and what not. What I meant was WWE would still be running all year but Raw and Smackdown would be treated as 2 separate promotions with each running a 3 month on, 3 month off schedule. But I do agree that fans who only tune in for certain superstars would only watch the month they are on.
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