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Post by KofiMania on Feb 29, 2016 23:50:19 GMT -5
Guessing a very short match between HHH and Ambrose at the Toronto special, League interferes for the DQ and Roman saves the day. RAW is in Chicago next week
And also if that is the result, that is the worst possible outcome. But I've seen past posts from you and... I swear you just like going for those...
They didn't announce the match as happening on next week's Raw.
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Post by r. on Feb 29, 2016 23:52:52 GMT -5
Is the forum having seizures?
The first two pages of this thread are duplicates.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Feb 29, 2016 23:55:01 GMT -5
Is the forum having seizures? The first two pages of this thread are duplicates. Merged two threads so some stuff was repeated after being in both.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Feb 29, 2016 23:56:46 GMT -5
I honestly wonder if part of the issue was they had last week's beatdown be too cool. This didn't get blood, pedigree on the steps, etc, he just punched him on a table for saying "Thanks". Dean's more popular with a lot of the audience, but they also didn't do themselves a lot of favors with the way they booked last week's. Yeah I know Triple H is an old pro, so maybe he just goes with the crowd, but this... ...is not what a heel does. Tonight he was being the heel. Last week, he was the babyface. Maybe Triple H is trying to sabotage Roman. Mocking a face's signature taunt is absolutely what a heel does. It's not super common in today's WWE, but Owens has done it plenty, and it draws heat when he does it, even though even as a fan I'll admit he's basically run down the checklist of how to play the "cool heel" role. I can easily buy that as something meant to garner heat given that "the Thundercat" does draw a bit of a pop in pro-Roman cities, but that it went the other way thanks to an anti-Roman crowd.
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Post by xCompackx on Feb 29, 2016 23:57:51 GMT -5
I'll say this regarding the past two endings of Raw: It certainly felt deliberate. It felt like someone was trying to show how terrible Roman Reigns' push is going, and I wouldn't be surprised if Dean Ambrose ends up wrestling twice at WrestleMania.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 29, 2016 23:58:05 GMT -5
RAW is in Chicago next week
And also if that is the result, that is the worst possible outcome. But I've seen past posts from you and... I swear you just like going for those...
They didn't announce the match as happening on next week's Raw. H just said that there will be a title match, but not when it will happen. Popular opinion is that it'll be going down at the Toronto WWE Network special.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 1, 2016 0:01:18 GMT -5
They didn't announce the match as happening on next week's Raw. H just said that there will be a title match, but not when it will happen. Popular opinion is that it'll be going down at the Toronto WWE Network special. That's gonna take the air out of the match hard if it happens on a Network Special, in my opinion anyway... I don't know I guess I want more from the match than to see it happen there, I want more for Dean. Because I don't see him winning it there or really having any follow up... so we'll see
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Mar 1, 2016 0:13:51 GMT -5
You know, I am not sure they aren't calling an audible here. Not necessarily moving to Trips/Ambrose but making Roman/Hunter a crazed brawl while Dean has to survive a title match with Brock. Probably wishful thinking but something real odd about this to me. As much as I think that would be the right decision to make (do they really want Roman's coronation to be in front of 80,000 people booing your new golden child?), considering that Triple H won the Royal Rumble by elimination Ambrose and not Reigns in order to help Hunter get booed, I think they're doing all they can to make Triple H the heel and get heat off of Ambrose. But, everything that's been said about Roman is that he was Triple H's guy and he convinced Vince that Roman was the guy for the future and not Big E. It's like he's actively working against his own interests. The hit is not on Roman, it's on Vince and his backstage people. Roman is just a pawn. Edit: Here is a basic summary of the political hit theory from another board "there is a power struggle between HHH and Kevin Dunn over the future of the company. HHH only wants his pet projects to get over, and Dunn is doing what he can to take them down a notch on the other side, because HHH and Stephanie have made clear that as soon as they get the chance, Dunn is out the door. The more Dunn can make HHH's ideas and judgment of talent seem questionable to Vince, the longer he can put off that happening. HHH was an advocate for Reigns and had no problem with him as the guy for a long time. Then Vince and Dunn got a little too on board with Reigns as the top guy and he was no longer just seen as HHH's project like The Shield was. HHH only wants guys who are HHH projects through and through getting over at the top level because he's planning on taking over the company one day and the transition may or may not be a peaceful one. The more guys who are around that owe him their success, the less resistance he is likely to face. So by getting rid of guys like Dunn, HHH is ultimately neutralizing Vince the same way chemotherapy often neutralizes a tumor by cutting off its blood supply. Vince may be CEO and Chairman of the Board for the next two decades, but when all of Vince's old cronies have been replaced with HHH cronies, Vince's title is just a vanity one because "his" guys are gone. One day, he'll look up and realize he doesn't run his company anymore, and it will have all happened so incrementally that he didn't even notice it until after the fact. It affects Reigns because HHH puts forth ideas that he absolutely knows will hurt Reigns under the guise of helping him."
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Post by "Mr Wonderdick" Dick Dastardly on Mar 1, 2016 0:22:59 GMT -5
You know, I am not sure they aren't calling an audible here. Not necessarily moving to Trips/Ambrose but making Roman/Hunter a crazed brawl while Dean has to survive a title match with Brock. Probably wishful thinking but something real odd about this to me. As much as I think that would be the right decision to make (do they really want Roman's coronation to be in front of 80,000 people booing your new golden child?), considering that Triple H won the Royal Rumble by elimination Ambrose and not Reigns in order to help Hunter get booed, I think they're doing all they can to make Triple H the heel and get heat off of Ambrose. But, everything that's been said about Roman is that he was Triple H's guy and he convinced Vince that Roman was the guy for the future and not Big E. It's like he's actively working against his own interests. As I said earlier in the topic, Haitch thinks Roman should be a heel. So, if he does something that will get him cheered and Roman booed, it gives him the ability to say "Vince, look how the crowd is reacting to him as a babyface, let's turn him heel."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 0:33:46 GMT -5
Another thing about this whole Reigns/HHH and Ambrose/HHH thing. Against Reigns Triple H really looks like Paul Levesque, you know, the guy in the back doing what it takes to get Reigns over even being on television. Against Ambrose he looks like the character Triple H in a storyline. I'm completely immersed into Ambrose/HHH as an official storyline.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 0:42:15 GMT -5
You know, I am not sure they aren't calling an audible here. Not necessarily moving to Trips/Ambrose but making Roman/Hunter a crazed brawl while Dean has to survive a title match with Brock. Probably wishful thinking but something real odd about this to me. I had an idea on what might happen at Wrestlemania...we're going to end up with 3 matches. Triple H Vs Roman Reigns - Winner face the winner of the Dean/Brock Match WWE Championship Match: Dean Ambrose Vs Brock Lesnar WWE Championship Match: the winner of Dean/Brock vs the winner of HHH/Roman
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 1:23:35 GMT -5
I didn't watch Raw but to be fair - they were in Nashville. The exact same beatdown as last week on Reigns probably would have gotten booed there.
By traditional standards, anyway. I mean, for all I know, maybe they were booing mentions of Roman's name tonight, but typically that wouldn't happen and poking around I haven't been able to find any mention of that happening.
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Post by schma on Mar 1, 2016 1:23:42 GMT -5
This is a chance to create the 'Mania title match we should have had in the first place. Ambrose vs Roman. I'm still of the opinion that you don't even need to have one turn on the other. They're brothers but that title matters so much to them, they'll take each other to the limit. It writes itself.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Mar 1, 2016 1:26:41 GMT -5
I thought it was telling how there was not one Roman chant all night, even when Ambrose was getting beaten down and needed help.
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Post by Raskovnik on Mar 1, 2016 1:32:55 GMT -5
It's not too late for them to squeeze out an awesome Mania. Have Ambrose go over Triple H, then make Ambrose vs Lesnar the main event. Meanwhile Triple H vs Reigns has become a f***ing blood feud that doesn't even need the title so they can put it to rest there. That's exactly what I wanted for Mania anyways and it is so close to happening.
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Post by Tiffany Stratton's Daddy on Mar 1, 2016 1:37:40 GMT -5
If it was up to me, I'd merge the two matches and make it a Fatal-4 Way at this point. Reigns, Ambrose, Lesnar, and Triple H. You can't have Dean win the title and pit Brother versus Brother, leaving Lesnar and Triple H with nobody, and having Triple H win and go on to wrestle Roman Reigns isn't "best for business" - pun obviously intended. So just make it a Fatal-4 Way, No Holds Barred, and let's get this out of the way. The main event won't be booed, and there's slim hope that Dean walks out with the world title.
Of course, this won't happen, as I likely see Lesnar messing with Dean Ambrose's chances at the title to gain some more heat for their No Holds Barred match, and Roman Reigns will go on to have Trips 1-on-1.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 1:50:39 GMT -5
If it was up to me, I'd merge the two matches and make it a Fatal-4 Way at this point. Reigns, Ambrose, Lesnar, and Triple H. You can't have Dean win the title and pit Brother versus Brother, leaving Lesnar and Triple H with nobody, and having Triple H win and go on to wrestle Roman Reigns isn't "best for business" - pun obviously intended. So just make it a Fatal-4 Way, No Holds Barred, and let's get this out of the way. The main event won't be booed, and there's slim hope that Dean walks out with the world title. Of course, this won't happen, as I likely see Lesnar messing with Dean Ambrose's chances at the title to gain some more heat for their No Holds Barred match, and Roman Reigns will go on to have Trips 1-on-1. Personally how I would do it is I'd have Dean win the belt, then have it be announced he'll first defend it against Brock then the winner will defend it in a triple threat with Reigns and Triple H. Dean barely squeaks by Brock, while the commentators wonder what that means for Triple H now that he's one-on-two with two best friends. Until the match proper starts, and immediately Roman is all over the injured Dean and just destroys him, with Triple H only jumping in when he needs help. Ultimately Reigns decisively beats him and wins, and the next night explains that it's nothing personal but the beating Triple H gave him made it clear to him there is no winning in going against the Authority, and Roman is there to be champion more than he's there to be friends. Cue Reigns as top heel, still an unstoppable badass but now with corporate backing, while Dean seeks vengeance. And if you want to do the Shield triple threat it would be very easy to get there from that point when Seth comes back.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 1, 2016 1:53:21 GMT -5
It's not too late for them to squeeze out an awesome Mania. Have Ambrose go over Triple H, then make Ambrose vs Lesnar the main event. Meanwhile Triple H vs Reigns has become a f***ing blood feud that doesn't even need the title so they can put it to rest there. That's exactly what I wanted for Mania anyways and it is so close to happening. I wonder if it'll be a Pyrrhic victory for people when Dean starts getting Roman's booking if that happens and crowds shit on him, too.
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Post by Lancers on Mar 1, 2016 2:00:39 GMT -5
The chances of Dean beating Triple H for the title are the same as me learning how to become a cardiologist in the next seven days. My knowledge of the human heart is that I'm smart enough to know it doesn't actually break if someone makes you sad. And it pumps blood. That's about it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2016 2:03:07 GMT -5
My knowledge of the human heart is that I'm smart enough to know it doesn't actually break if someone makes you sad. And it pumps blood. That's about it. *Raises Hand* Also delicious
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