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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 2:09:31 GMT -5
During Too Much's homoerotic gimmick they used to come to the ring on the back of the motorcycles of the Disciples of the Apocalypse team (who were/are neo nazis irl) hinting at a relationship between the teams. Very random, I assume Russos work.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2016 2:53:36 GMT -5
Interesting ones. One a lot of people know about already is that Mark Jindrak was at one point intended to be in Evolution, and was even shot for the titantron, with them having to edit around that. Poor Jindrak. He actually told a story about how he lost that huge opportunity. Apparently he and Orton took a road trip with Triple H and get to know each other. Apparently Jindrak acted like a punk the entire trip and aggravated everyone to no end and he lost the spot. Jindrak admitted that he was young and entitled, that it was his fault losing the opportunity. This one I'm sure that the person is happy that the spot didn't end up with him. Apparently Triple H was gonna be managed by the Honky Tonk Man but it ended up going to Billy Gunn. Triple H told the story in his DVD and how Vince thought it was the best idea ever. Steve Corino told the story that it was gonna be either him or Reckless Youth that got a spot in the company but Heyman ended up choosing him. This one I thought it was awesome and could've altered history forever. In his book Bret Hart said that before going to the wwf, he worked for Ole Anderson. It was his first time in Georgia. There was also another another guy debuting there, none other than Buzz Sawyer. Ole was booking and very busy backstage to check out both of their matches so he could only watch one. He ended up choosing Buzz and then signing him. It's a really cool what if? scenario. Thinking about how history would've gone if Ole chose to watch Bret's match and signing him to nwa, and Buzz possibly going to the wwf.
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Post by funakifan88 on Apr 15, 2016 3:18:46 GMT -5
The Hall of Pain gimmick that Mark Henry utilized to great effect was originally intended for Brodus Clay. If I'm not mistaken, Brodus came up with the concept and name but they used it for Henry instead. I could be getting this wrong though.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 15, 2016 3:28:09 GMT -5
Not a gimmick, exactly, but Austin won the King of the Ring in place of Triple H due to the Curtain Call incident. It doesn't automatically mean Triple H would have had a rocket strapped to him or something, but Austin was given the King of the Ring on such short notice as to have been approached in the parking lot and offered it, so clearly, at least some plans changed in short order.
The Stone Cold character was going to get over, regardless, but the 3:16 promo certainly didn't hurt.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 15, 2016 3:43:31 GMT -5
This one I thought it was awesome and could've altered history forever. In his book Bret Hart said that before going to the wwf, he worked for Ole Anderson. It was his first time in Georgia. There was also another another guy debuting there, none other than Buzz Sawyer. Ole was booking and very busy backstage to check out both of their matches so he could only watch one. He ended up choosing Buzz and then signing him. It's a really cool what if? scenario. Thinking about how history would've gone if Ole chose to watch Bret's match and signing him to nwa, and Buzz possibly going to the wwf. To put all of that into context, some things to remember: If this story happened that way, it was in 1979, and both Buzz and Bret were rookies. Bret was there for nearly two months and took part in at least 32 matches while there (including several where he jobbed to some guy named Sterling Golden). He also had a taped television match against Sawyer. I find it hard to believe that in all that time, head booker Ole never once got a chance to watch one of the guys he hired and kept employed for months. I believe I've also read that Bret was fired after no-showing a card; Sawyer was supposed to be his ride to it and stood him up. Back into context, neither Hart nor Sawyer would go to the WWF anytime soon after that. In fact, it would be five years before either did, and even then, Sawyer got there first. He was hired in May 1984, fired in July 1984 and Bret would start just a little over a month later.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 15, 2016 3:48:54 GMT -5
This one I thought it was awesome and could've altered history forever. In his book Bret Hart said that before going to the wwf, he worked for Ole Anderson. It was his first time in Georgia. There was also another another guy debuting there, none other than Buzz Sawyer. Ole was booking and very busy backstage to check out both of their matches so he could only watch one. He ended up choosing Buzz and then signing him. It's a really cool what if? scenario. Thinking about how history would've gone if Ole chose to watch Bret's match and signing him to nwa, and Buzz possibly going to the wwf. To put all of that into context, some things to remember: If this story happened that way, it was in 1979, and both Buzz and Bret were rookies. Bret was there for nearly two months and took part in at least 32 matches while there (including several where he jobbed to some guy named Sterling Golden). He also had a taped television match against Sawyer. I find it hard to believe that in all that time, head booker Ole never once got a chance to watch one of the guys he hired and kept employed for months. I believe I've also read that Bret was fired after no-showing a card; Sawyer was supposed to be his ride to it and stood him up. Back into context, neither Hart nor Sawyer would go to the WWF anytime soon after that. In fact, it would be five years before either did, and even then, Sawyer got there first. He was hired in May 1984, fired in July 1984 and Bret would start just a little over a month later. Thanks I got my dates wrong. Buzz actually joined the wwf for a little time before Bret. I don't know why I thought that Bret joined the wwf in 82.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 15, 2016 4:33:15 GMT -5
Malia Hosaka was supposed to get the gimmick that Lita eventually got, being paired with Essa Rios, her name was to be Aphrodisia
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 15, 2016 5:07:49 GMT -5
The Black Scorpion - It was supposed to be Warrior, but they started the angle before they'd even gotten a response from the first feeler they sent out, and by the time they gave up trying to negotiate, the angle had gone on for-goddamn-ever
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 15, 2016 5:14:33 GMT -5
This one I thought it was awesome and could've altered history forever. In his book Bret Hart said that before going to the wwf, he worked for Ole Anderson. It was his first time in Georgia. There was also another another guy debuting there, none other than Buzz Sawyer. Ole was booking and very busy backstage to check out both of their matches so he could only watch one. He ended up choosing Buzz and then signing him. It's a really cool what if? scenario. Thinking about how history would've gone if Ole chose to watch Bret's match and signing him to nwa, and Buzz possibly going to the wwf. To put all of that into context, some things to remember: If this story happened that way, it was in 1979, and both Buzz and Bret were rookies. Bret was there for nearly two months and took part in at least 32 matches while there (including several where he jobbed to some guy named Sterling Golden). He also had a taped television match against Sawyer. I find it hard to believe that in all that time, head booker Ole never once got a chance to watch one of the guys he hired and kept employed for months. I believe I've also read that Bret was fired after no-showing a card; Sawyer was supposed to be his ride to it and stood him up. Back into context, neither Hart nor Sawyer would go to the WWF anytime soon after that. In fact, it would be five years before either did, and even then, Sawyer got there first. He was hired in May 1984, fired in July 1984 and Bret would start just a little over a month later. The more I hear about Buzz, the more he sounds like one of the biggest f***ups in wrestling, between stuff like this and taking Undertaker's money and skipping town when he paid Buzz to train him.
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Post by auph10imitated on Apr 15, 2016 5:26:12 GMT -5
Im pretty sure Greg Valentine and his wife Julie were supposed to be doing the Macho Man and Elizabeth gimmick first, in fact she appeared in some segments with him.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 15, 2016 5:35:50 GMT -5
The Iraqi Sympathizer gimmick was designed for Tugboat. I never knew I wanted to see this. "I'm fighting for the glory of Sadam HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUssain"
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 15, 2016 5:40:22 GMT -5
Terry Taylor was almost Mr. Perfect. his consolation prize was being the Red Rooster.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Apr 15, 2016 5:45:02 GMT -5
Another one is Mistico. We all know that Jorge Arias is the second Sin Cara, but both he and Luis Urive started wrestling around the same time as Mistico (both have called the other a ripoff before), but CMLL won a court battle between the two, and Arias changed his name to Incognito
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 15, 2016 6:00:48 GMT -5
Another one is Mistico. We all know that Jorge Arias is the second Sin Cara, but both he and Luis Urive started wrestling around the same time as Mistico (both have called the other a ripoff before), but CMLL won a court battle between the two, and Arias changed his name to Incognito
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Apr 15, 2016 6:04:29 GMT -5
The Ring Master character was pitched to several guys before finally going to Austin, Adam Bomb being one of them.
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Post by jmule on Apr 15, 2016 6:15:05 GMT -5
Someone on here mentioned that bob Orton got the cowboy gimmick after Bret hart refused it.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 15, 2016 6:28:59 GMT -5
Terry Taylor was almost Mr. Perfect. his consolation prize was being the Red Rooster. Not quite. See page 1.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 15, 2016 6:34:09 GMT -5
The Black Scorpion - It was supposed to be Warrior, but they started the angle before they'd even gotten a response from the first feeler they sent out, and by the time they gave up trying to negotiate, the angle had gone on for-goddamn-ever Except Warrior was already locked into a contract and couldn't negotiate. Even with the implications it was him, WCW had zero chance of getting him from the start.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Apr 15, 2016 6:45:10 GMT -5
The Black Scorpion - It was supposed to be Warrior, but they started the angle before they'd even gotten a response from the first feeler they sent out, and by the time they gave up trying to negotiate, the angle had gone on for-goddamn-ever Except Warrior was already locked into a contract and couldn't negotiate. Even with the implications it was him, WCW had zero chance of getting him from the start. Thing is, this would be a horrendous idea anyway. Ok, you hire one of the hottest faces in the business, known for his crazy, energetic wildman style. And you want him to be a manipulative, calculating heel doing magic tricks. How was that ever going to work? Because they broke into the business together? Who cared about that? That also applies to if it's true they wanted Al Perez as their second choice, they had a real life history that even today most people would consider to be irrelevant in an angle when the internet's a thing.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Apr 15, 2016 7:04:08 GMT -5
My personal theory on the Scorpion deal:
They didn't intend for it to be Warrior, Perez, Flair, Dave Sheldon or anyone else. When it was started, the only real intention was getting a "new" opponent for Sting, who he would feud with, win over and then the opponent would disappear to make way for other feuds. When they came up with it, there wasn't an endgame of "he gets revealed to be _________." He gets into Sting's head, Sting beats him, we move on to the next story. Perez is only linked to everything because he was supposed to be the nameless guy under the hood (prior to him quitting after the feud started). Even if he'd stuck around, there wasn't going to be a grand "OMG It's Al Perez" moment. Sheldon gets dragged into it because a) he actually had a past with Sting, b) he was already around and c) he was already pulling double/triple duty in the company under masked names (e.g. the Russian Assassins).
If things had gone as originally planned, I truly believe Scorpion would have shown up, had a couple or three rows with Sting. Sting ultimately defeats the masked man (and even if he unmasks him, it would not have been sold as anything special revelations-wise) and then we get the debut of Spartacus.
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