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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 12, 2016 18:50:48 GMT -5
It is no secret that these are amongst the worst booked champions TNA has had. However, that is not to say that each guy didn't have potential to have a great run.
Sabin was a feel good story of a guy who came back from devastating injuries and was able to perform at a high level. Under the right circumstances he could of been a good underdog type champion. What we got was a rushed championship run that was unnecessary in regards to the storyline that was going on at the time. He dropped the belt what 2 weeks after he won it to Bully Ray so Bully Ray could drop it to AJ.
Magnus was fresh new blood to the championship scene and he had all the check marks of being a good champion from the way he looked and carried himself like a champion. What we got here was Dixie doing her best Stephanie impersonation and making everything about her. Instead of Magnus being front and center, he was behind Dixie all the time and portrayed as a chickenshit bitch champion. He eventually loses to EY in a Daniel Bryan copied circumstance.
Each guy had the promise but were let down by booking and incompetence of the company. However, in your opinion who had the worse reign and was hurt the most by their run as champion?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2016 18:54:44 GMT -5
At least Sabin's reign was short.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jun 12, 2016 18:55:35 GMT -5
Sabin
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Post by kendrickisking on Jun 12, 2016 18:56:20 GMT -5
Magnus by miles. Sabin was pretty great in MCMG. Magnus has never been great.
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Post by 01010010 01101001 01100011 on Jun 12, 2016 18:59:27 GMT -5
Easily Sabin, he never should have been near the f***ing thing to start with.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 12, 2016 20:02:24 GMT -5
Sabin because it happened out of nowhere and he was treated like an afterthought the whole time. at least Magnus had the build and got used.
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Post by chazraps on Jun 12, 2016 20:49:10 GMT -5
Magnus.
The difference is:
Sabin was a reign that nothing went right with.
Magnus was a reign that everything went wrong with.
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Post by Spider2024 on Jun 12, 2016 21:29:45 GMT -5
Sabin deserved way better.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Jun 13, 2016 0:28:48 GMT -5
Magnus because it's pro wrestling and British people are not supposed to be World Champions.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 13, 2016 0:32:37 GMT -5
Magnus. The difference is: Sabin was a reign that nothing went right with. Magnus was a reign that everything went wrong with. Great point. As I stated before both had potential but Magnus obviously had the most of two. Everything about him screamed champion and they proceeded to kill it dead.
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Post by Rave on Jun 13, 2016 8:11:43 GMT -5
Magnus.
Sabin was a transitional reign to burn off Option 3 without much effort. Magnus was completely neutered and mired in bullshit so Dixie could do her horrible Stephanie impression, then ejected from the main event as a whole when she was finished.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jun 13, 2016 8:46:29 GMT -5
This is Magnus without a doubt. Sabin was a mere "win it and lose in a month" champ that the company had no plans to get over. It was to blow off their goofy X champion storyline. The whole Sabin thing got me to theorize that the initial plan might have been. I thought the idea going into 2013 was to put the X title on Van Dam and then he could hold that belt until cashing in, but his contract was up and he bolted back to WWE, so TNA was left with either doing the Aries angle again or giving Sabin a "Thank you" title run.
Magnus however was pushed pretty well and then turned heel and became the most ineffectual wuss ever to hold a belt. I can't think of a single match he had that he won clean. That run basically wrecked his entire career.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 13, 2016 8:52:07 GMT -5
Sabin had an absolutely nothing storyline, Magnus was supposed to be a big deal and they botched it so badly that it derailed his career entirely.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jun 13, 2016 8:53:02 GMT -5
The good thing about both of these guys is that their bad title reigns will immediately be forgotten once Shera or Grado get their 400+ day reign of terror.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 9:01:45 GMT -5
Magnus, easily.
With Saban, they just wanted to burn off Option C. Magnus, they went out of their way to make him look like a bitch, and had him lose to the Asylum version of Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jun 13, 2016 10:44:18 GMT -5
I'd echo the Magnus sentiments. Given how utterly nothing he looked winning it first from Jeff Hardy with windy interference (sidenote: does anyone recall the cage/ladder match that was Dixieland and let us know without a doubt that Russo was back in the fold somehow?). Then there was the absolute joke that was the unification match with AJ, with a scale of interference that made Punk/HHH look modest, completely undermining Magnus as any kind of guy. Which is a shame, because if Brits seemingly haaaaave to be villains in US pro-wrestling, Magnus was a cool, sneering and modern take on the premise. It was kinda at this point any of the residual goodwill from the hot streak of mid-2012 disappeared and we were officially back to "yeah, I kinda watch it sometimes..."
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Post by sonofsharknado on Jun 13, 2016 14:15:12 GMT -5
Sabin because he could have been Shelley.
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Post by chazraps on Jun 13, 2016 15:41:11 GMT -5
This is Magnus without a doubt. Sabin was a mere "win it and lose in a month" champ that the company had no plans to get over. It was to blow off their goofy X champion storyline. The whole Sabin thing got me to theorize that the initial plan might have been. I thought the idea going into 2013 was to put the X title on Van Dam and then he could hold that belt until cashing in, but his contract was up and he bolted back to WWE, so TNA was left with either doing the Aries angle again or giving Sabin a "Thank you" title run. Oddly enough, the actual plan going into Sabin winning the belt was holding on to it and turning heel going into Bound For Glory, making him vs AJ Styles the world title main event. This was the plan as Bubba Ray was going to face Hogan in a match with Aces N Eights on the line. Hogan's not planning to renew caused the change and put the belt back on Bully.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jun 13, 2016 15:43:22 GMT -5
Magnus because it's pro wrestling and British people are not supposed to be World Champions. ...Russo?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Jun 13, 2016 16:45:55 GMT -5
Sabin had just came back from a long injury layover and gunning for the X Division title. He had a nice little redemption storyline for that but it came around the time when the X Division champion would had to decide to keep the title or cash in for a world title shot. So instead of letting his victory over Kenny King sit in and continuing on that feud, he got thrusted into the Aces & Eight story. Would had made sense to do the story of Sabin taking Bully to the limit but ultimately losing the match, TNA went with the one of everyone interfering & Chris only winning because of said interference and a wrench. It was basically a squash until the interference train happened. Sabin then lost the rematch against Bully Ray in almost the same manner and got made into a bitch in the process. He got the Lex Luger treatment.
Magnus was someone who grown a lot as a wrestler. He improved in the ring and was no longer the awkward greenhorn. Magnus being a TNA world champ was not a if but a when. He held his own against former TNA champs. So when it came time for him to win the big one, it should had been a glorious moment. But Dixieland Rules happened. Magnus became Barry Horowitz with a posse. He couldn't win a match without outside help namely the heel roster interfering on his behalf. He was the fall guy in tag matches. Not like how Ric Flair would lose to make his future opponent look strong for their upcoming encounter but in a way Duane Gill would do with minimum offense. The one time he had to win on his own without help, he lost to long time comedy jobber Eric Young clean. So Magnus went from someone that TNA could build around or a guy WWE would raid for their roster to a guy representing a near vaporware promotion in GFW.
So Magnus is my pick.
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