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Post by radiantsilvergun on Jun 15, 2016 17:21:37 GMT -5
Like Kevin Owens for example. He's doing fine and all, but he isn't the kissing his opponent on the mouth, picking up used gum from the floor and telling fans to die, gay joke cracking Kevin Owens from before he signed with WWE......He isn't being himself Missed opportunities for memories and money.... </3
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Post by RIHT on Jun 15, 2016 17:47:54 GMT -5
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jun 15, 2016 17:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by billyvg on Jun 15, 2016 18:05:45 GMT -5
Vince likes characters. He wants WWE to be a comic book that's taken on the road, essentially.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Jun 15, 2016 18:34:55 GMT -5
Vince likes characters. He wants WWE to be a comic book that's taken on the road, essentially. Never thought of it that way. Seems like they pick characters out of a hat and give them to the wrong people these days lol
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Post by ISO Mid Thigh Pull on Jun 15, 2016 18:37:49 GMT -5
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Post by Gremlin on Jun 15, 2016 19:30:54 GMT -5
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jun 15, 2016 19:33:44 GMT -5
Because WWE does not have bookers anymore, they have writers. Bookers tell the guys what is going to happen and let them fill in the details.
Its like the way Stan Lee used to write for Marvel back in the day. He would tell the artist a plot (Fantastic Four fight god). The artist would draw the story, the Stan would script it. And a lot of the time the artist would even come up with his own plots. And as long as you had a good artist it usually turned out good, and amazing with great artists. Now comics are written with a full script so you get pages of talking heads.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 15, 2016 19:36:34 GMT -5
I remember back in 1996 the WWF signed Doug Furnas and Phil Lafon, one of the hottest tag teams Japan had at the time and who just finished up a notable run in ECW. All the internet fans at the time were saying "don't give them gimmicks, don't give them characters, just let them be themselves". Turns out being "themselves" was incredibly boring and nobody cared about them and they wound up flopping.
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Post by sdoyle7798 on Jun 15, 2016 19:49:07 GMT -5
Like Kevin Owens for example. He's doing fine and all, but he isn't the kissing his opponent on the mouth, picking up used gum from the floor and telling fans to die, gay joke cracking Kevin Owens from before he signed with WWE......He isn't being himself Missed opportunities for memories and money.... </3 Did...did I miss something about KO's gimmick on the indy scene?
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Post by suave on Jun 15, 2016 20:01:57 GMT -5
something something Matt Hardy something something car crash
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jun 15, 2016 20:11:09 GMT -5
I remember back in 1996 the WWF signed Doug Furnas and Phil Lafon, one of the hottest tag teams Japan had at the time and who just finished up a notable run in ECW. All the internet fans at the time were saying "don't give them gimmicks, don't give them characters, just let them be themselves". Turns out being "themselves" was incredibly boring and nobody cared about them and they wound up flopping. It can vary by person; some guys need characters because the force of their personality isn't really enough, but then you have guys like CM Punk whose wrestling persona is a lot of aspects of himself dialed up to eleven, and he really succeeded with that. Daniel Bryan was able to get really over playing a character, but it was ultimately "humble granola dude who can wrestle super well" that ended up turning him into the most over guy of an era. Roman Reigns on TV tends to bore the hell out of me and his character kind of sucks, but the Roman Reigns we see in interviews when he's being natural and much more him? Give me the exaggeration of that and he just might win me over. Not everyone should be themselves, but unless you're a Cody Rhodes kind of guy who can make anything work and are able to play something outlandish and totally removed for reality, it's probably not a bad idea to skim some influence off the top of your own personality; people are at their most natural being them, after all.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Jun 15, 2016 20:42:36 GMT -5
Like Kevin Owens for example. He's doing fine and all, but he isn't the kissing his opponent on the mouth, picking up used gum from the floor and telling fans to die, gay joke cracking Kevin Owens from before he signed with WWE......He isn't being himself Missed opportunities for memories and money.... </3 Did...did I miss something about KO's gimmick on the indy scene? Yep you missed quite alot. Check out his PWG run from 2011-2014 to see KO in his natural habitat. and SLEEPER HOLD german suplexes
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jun 15, 2016 20:55:32 GMT -5
I remember back in 1996 the WWF signed Doug Furnas and Phil Lafon, one of the hottest tag teams Japan had at the time and who just finished up a notable run in ECW. All the internet fans at the time were saying "don't give them gimmicks, don't give them characters, just let them be themselves". Turns out being "themselves" was incredibly boring and nobody cared about them and they wound up flopping. They were two wrestlers in a company that was becoming the Jerry Springer show, like Essa Rios they would have been better off in WCW with people around them that could better showcase their talents.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jun 15, 2016 20:56:42 GMT -5
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Post by wisdomwizard on Jun 15, 2016 20:59:52 GMT -5
.....we're STILL getting Serious Gay Wrestler Threads? ??
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Post by hossfan on Jun 15, 2016 21:04:10 GMT -5
Ask Abraham Washington why.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Jun 15, 2016 21:40:32 GMT -5
Tried it once. It doesn't work. You got four guys all fighting over who's going to be Mr. Black.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jun 15, 2016 21:44:42 GMT -5
Some people aren't comfortable being themselves
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Post by saintpat on Jun 15, 2016 21:49:55 GMT -5
I remember back in 1996 the WWF signed Doug Furnas and Phil Lafon, one of the hottest tag teams Japan had at the time and who just finished up a notable run in ECW. All the internet fans at the time were saying "don't give them gimmicks, don't give them characters, just let them be themselves". Turns out being "themselves" was incredibly boring and nobody cared about them and they wound up flopping. It can vary by person; some guys need characters because the force of their personality isn't really enough, but then you have guys like CM Punk whose wrestling persona is a lot of aspects of himself dialed up to eleven, and he really succeeded with that. Daniel Bryan was able to get really over playing a character, but it was ultimately "humble granola dude who can wrestle super well" that ended up turning him into the most over guy of an era. Roman Reigns on TV tends to bore the hell out of me and his character kind of sucks, but the Roman Reigns we see in interviews when he's being natural and much more him? Give me the exaggeration of that and he just might win me over. Not everyone should be themselves, but unless you're a Cody Rhodes kind of guy who can make anything work and are able to play something outlandish and totally removed for reality, it's probably not a bad idea to skim some influence off the top of your own personality; people are at their most natural being them, after all. I remember when DBry first showed up in WWE and there was this huge "He needs to be American Dragon and kick people's heads in, be a complete badass assassin guy." And he's 5-foot-8, dwarfed by most of the roster -- remember when he did the LaBell Lock on Batista and he couldn't wrap his arms around to lock it because Batista was just too big and muscular. No way he could have been realistically booked as this force of nature -- that worked in the indies and in Japan against guys closer to his own size, but no way it would in WWE. He got over when he started to develop some personality in Team Hell No. That was what he needed, something besides "he can wrestle and he's a vegan and he doesn't own a TV, what a nerd." I think Zayn has potential, but he has yet to find any sort of character whatsoever. Without KO, he'd be nowhere. The only thing he has is "that poor guy KO keeps beating up." If he has a personality, he needs to start projecting it.
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